"Deplorable Lives Matter" - sign seen in Iowa

 

"We are going to need a bigger basket."  This is attributed to one of Trump's sons.  It is really quite clever.  It has been theorized (here among other places) that HC laid down her challenge to Trump's people deliberately as a means to the end of solidifying her followers in a struggle to rid the world of the undesirables out there in flyoverland.  What would be the equivalent of "flyoverland" in the UK or France?  Others believe that in her weakened state as a pneumonia sufferer she simply told the truth that she felt.  Well, pilgrim souls, IMO if this was a deliberate gambit, it was a dumb one.

The Deplorables (both the re-educable and the irredeemables) are unhappy at this dismissal of the notion of their equality in the polity called the US.  The HC declaration of their moral and cultural inferiority has sunk in and will sink in more in light of the general approbation given to HC's statement by such people as Dana Milbank and the MJ crowd who assert that she was factually correct.

The independents now question her attitude toward them and any others who do not share her utopian vision.  pl

Comments

[Jack]

Sir

Trump's speech writers are IMO, getting the zeitgeist of flyover America correct. Hillary has given his campaign an opening to drive an anti-establishment message. Below are excerpts from a speech to the National Guard.

"Our support comes from every part of America, and every walk of life. We have the support of cops and soldiers, carpenters and welders, the young and the old, and millions of working class families who just want a better future.

These were the people Hillary Clinton so viciously demonized. These were among the countless Americans that Hillary Clinton called deplorable, irredeemable and un-American. She called these patriotic men and women every vile name in the book – she called them racist, sexist, xenophobic, and Islamaphobic.

She called them a “basket of deplorables” in both a speech and an interview. She divides people into baskets as though they were objects, not human beings.

Hillary Clinton made these comments at one of her high-dollar fundraisers in Wall Street.

She and her wealthy donors all had a good laugh. They were laughing at the very people who pave the roads she drives on, paint the buildings she speaks in, and keep the lights on in her auditorium.

Hillary Clinton is an insider, supported by powerful insiders, attacking Americans who have no political power.

Hillary Clinton spoke with hatred and derision for the people who make this country run.

She spoke with contempt for the people who thanklessly follow the rules, pay their taxes, and scratch out a living for their families.

While Hillary Clinton lives a sequestered life behind gates and walls and guards, she mocks and demeans hardworking Americans who only want their own families to enjoy a fraction of the security enjoyed by our politicians.

After months of hiding from the press, Hillary Clinton has revealed her true thoughts.

She revealed herself to be a person who looks down on the proud citizens of our country as subjects for her to rule over.

Her comments displayed the same sense of arrogance and entitlement that led her to violate federal law as Secretary of State, hide and delete her emails, put classified information in the reach of our enemies, lie to Congress, and sell government favors and access through her Foundation."

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-remarks-at-the-national-guard-association-of-the-united-sta

[Dubhaltach]

Colonel,

The problem with her utopian vision is that's it's pretty damned distopian for everyone else. More social, economic, and cultural decline, spiced with yet more wars of choice.

I truly hope that you and you're fellow Americans end this dangerous fanatic's political career during the forthcoming presidential election.

[JohnsonR]

"What would be the equivalent of "flyoverland" in the UK or France?"

As far as the UK is concerned, anywhere outside London (and only specific parts of London, at that).

[MRW]

Trump's speech writers are IMO, getting the zeitgeist of flyover America correct.

Agree.

[Lemur]

She's only saying what the left really thinks. People like Tim Wise have openly stated they're just waiting for all those horrid white conservatives to die out. The bi-partisan junta is outraged these Deplorables aren't willing to shuffle off this mortal coil without a fight.

[robt willmann]

Matt Drudge has been reading SST. He now puts up the photo of the Lady 'X' helping Hillary and the possible neurological check.

Likewise, the British Daily Mail newspaper is catching up--

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3786445/Is-Hillary-Clinton-s-undercover-nurse-Pictures-unnamed-woman-checking-candidate-s-pulse-performing-neurological-test-collapsed-9-11-memorial.html

Matt Drudge may make a lot of money, but SST provides a public service.

[Jim Jordan]

"Flyover-land"in England and Wales equals anywhere outside of Quislington and Hampstead in London and the parts of the cities that do not have a Russell Group university within its environs

[Jim Jordan]

FFS who on earth can speak as clearly as this if they are suffering from "pneumonia"? She must take you Americans as a bunch of idiots http://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/09/13/hillary-clinton-beeper-pneumonia-didnt-think-it-would-be-a-big-deal-sot-cooper-ac360.cnn

[Valissa]

A "Deplorable Lives Matter" sign, smiling Trump supporters weaqring Deplorables t-shirts and more great visuals here...

'Deplorable' and proud: Some Trump supporters embrace the label http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/09/12/deplorable-and-proud-some-trump-supporters-embrace-label/90290760/

[A Pols]

She might have said "Les Miserables".
The comment exemplifies the attitude of the educated, degreed coastal elites who run the Democratic Party, well described in a recent book: "Listen Liberal".
http://listenliberal.com/

I don't intend to shill for the book and hope I'm not transgressing by posting the link.

Maybe her swoon on Sunday was caused by a case of the vapors brought on by the sight of deplorables...

[Dr. K]

I see there is room for you in the basket. You are offended and disrespected and gosh darn your life matters too. You must be sucking up some kind of welfare or entitlement: social security,government pension,state pension?

[Ghostship]

What would be the equivalent of "flyoverland" in the UK...?
I would have said Deptford but even that's in the process of re-education. The only holdout that I can think of at the moment is Essex although it is quite pleasant near the border with Suffolk.

[Laura]

Jack--Gosh, maybe she just thought that David Duke and his ilk and the people that consider what he says to be "OK" and "not politically correct" are deplorable. Maybe HC actually thinks that saying that all Muslims need to be individually vetted even if they are American citizens is a deplorable statement under the US Constitution. Maybe she thinks is it "deplorable" that 60% of Trump followers say that Obama is a Muslim--which statement is flat-out inaccurate. Maybe she actually believes that Hawaii is part of the US and that Obama was born there as both he and his birth certificate say.

Deplorable? Yes. And, by-the-way, it doesn't require being a birther or being anti-Muslim or pro-David Duke to "follow the rules, pay their taxes, and scratch out a living for their families." In fact, those things which we ALL should deplore---totally get in the way of our economy and our Constitution. She's a Methodist for heaven's sake...why would a Christian NOT deplore those elements in our society?

I agree that putting people into baskets isn't a great idea...however, HC was basing this on polls where these folks self-identified by answering questions. She isn't making it up...just foolishly and very uncharitably pointing their answers out. It is NOT a laughing matter.

[turcopolier]

Laura

No, it is not a laughing matter that one part of the population is deliberately alienating another part. pl

[turcopolier]

Dr K Is your remark about someone's place in the basket directed at me? If not, then who? if you do not respond to my question I will ban you. pl

[johnf]

The British equivalent to flyover country are the English provinces - the poor agricultural South West (my home) and the rust belt Midlands and North. London is where our coastal elites concentrate, and in some of the affluent suburbs surrounding it. There are outposts of metropolitan values in some major cities. Scotland and Northern Ireland have different voting patterns.

Our equivalent to your presidential election is of course Brexit, where the country divided in pretty much the same way as it looks as though yours will.

I think there could be a direct parallel between Clinton's fatal "Deplorables" statement and a particular event late in our referendum campaign. A week before voting a young pro-Remain Labour woman MP was gunned down and killed in the street by a pro-Brexit neo-nazi nutcase. It became wall-to-wall news on the MSM. There was virtually no coverage of the election and the campaigns shut down as a mark of respect. The opinion polls started to show a swing to Remain.

But it didn't stop after two days. The massive coverage of the murder continued to push out almost all the coverage of the election campaign day after day. And insinuations started to enter the coverage. Extremely unpleasant smears were made - sometimes quite openly - that ALL supporters of Brexit were not only the usual things - stupid, racist etc - but were in someway responsible for the murder. Were the equivalents of neo-nazi murderers. I think that it was at this moment, in the anger and revulsion of most ordinary, decent people to such a dishonest smear, used in such an openly cynical way, that in the last couple of days the campaign swung for Brexit.

Hubris followed by Nemesis.

(If Trump does win, prepare yourselves for months of hysteria, insult, and emotional incontinence from the losers)

[Babak Makkinejad]

How about Cornwall?

[Harry]

Yes, don't we usually say "the regions"?

[Dr. K]

Comments directed to Jack.

[Babak Makkinejad]

Thank you for mentioning David Duke. More than a decade ago, on this forum, I stated my opinion that he was a symptom of a wide discontent in the United States with domestic political situation.

At that time, his candidacy was crushed by collusion between Democrats and Republicans. They swept the problem under the rug, but it has come back to the surface again.

They might be able to smother Trump's election chances as well but I think some of the issues that David Duke had raised have now become more pressing concerns for more people in the United States.

Which leads me to believe that by crushing Trump, they make the divisions in the United States deeper and deeper and their resolution costlier and costlier overtime.

[rjj]

"Deplore this!" comes to mind.

[turcopolier]

Dr K

So you think that collection of an earned retirement, pension or Social Security should buy silence? pl

[Fred]

Dr. K,

Aren't you the guy teaching at UW Madison, or are you a new Dr. K? Pensions are earned from service. Whether they are paid out, as the folks in Detroit, who had theirs cut by 5% or so due the mismanagement, is debatable. I'm sure the folks in Illinois are wondering about theirs. Maybe someone should make room for them in the "basket", it's not like Hilary and company plan on cutting the refugee budget.

[F5F5F5]

What would be the equivalent of "flyoverland" in the UK or France?

In the UK saying "Bradford", "Hull" or just "The North" would convey more or less the same meaning, although I wouldn't know how to call all these many semi-rural towns and villages that are just as dead and rough located in between crap urban areas.

In France they call "France périphérique" (peripheral France) the working class people not lucky enough to even live in a suburban ghetto.

These are the very people the Left used to praise as their hope and heroes. But as soon as they lost their job, they instantly became dumb racist sexist losers.

[rjj]

need guidance on usage [oou-saaaj]. is it to be

deploreurs/deploreuses or deploristes versus deplorands

or

deplorers versus deplorees ????