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12 August 2016

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DC

Yet another example of how the political views of public officials can support and even advance public corruption enabled by the Party members. Their Soviet comrades-in-thought would be proud. If there were ever a time when fair-minded public officials were available to serve the nation, we need them now.

Bill Herschel

"In July 2016, the U.S. Air Force stated they would not release the estimated cost for the B-21 contract with Northrop Grumman. The Air Force argued releasing the cost would reveal too much information about the classified project to potential adversaries. The Senate Armed Services Committee also voted to not publicly release the program's cost, restricting the information to congressional defense committees.[13]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Grumman_B-21

Which is worse? Every dollar for the B-21 is a taxpayer dollar, but the taxpayers don't get to know nothing.

The Clinton Foundations dollars? Fat cats around the world lining up to buy access and favors. Sounds like free speech to me.

Oh, and the Clinton Foundations? Peanuts compared to the B-21. Peanuts. The B-21 might be showcased a few times to bomb our numerous adversaries world wide, but if they ever get more than a couple of runs I'd be amazed.

And Trump! The parrot would not do more for an almond that he for a commodious sucker.

turcopolier

Bill Herschel

The B-21 matter is irrelevant. The Clintons are not USAF. They must obey the law. You are seeking to justify public corruption with a sophistic political argument. pl

jdledell

To give more background on this issue, the DOJ investigated the Clinton Foundation a year ago as a result of the book "Clinton Cash" and found the accusations unfounded. In response the the current request for an investigation, the DOJ rightly or wrongly determined the request was more political than substantive.

Was there favoritism? On the surface it appears so but none of us knows the substance of the FBI reasons to investigate. For 20 years Clinton has been investigated more than any woman in the history of the U.S. and so far has escaped relatively unscathed. I suspect Clinton is a very smart lawyer and she takes things right up to the edge of illegal and improper but never steps over the line. In short - she is sleazy smart.

TV

What is sad - and sort of funny - is the myth of the DOJ "career professionals."
The DOJ has been a Democrat party adjunct for a long time.
And the FBI - Famous But Incompetent.

jonst

This kind of thinking, really, is the ultimate Clinton weapon. "we're not as a bad as that nut/crook", whatever> True enough Bill, true enough.

different clue

jdledell,

Was the Attorney General at that time still Eric Holder? Or was it Barbara Lynch by then?

morgan

Amen, colonel, amen!

eakens

A family member was once a victim of online fraud, and the perpetrator was continuing to defraud others. I called the local field office and had several interactions via telephone and email with a "special agent". The individual certainly does not represent the whole of the FBI, but his amazingly high level of incompetence makes me wonder to this day how he achieved the title of FBI agent.

Bill Herschel

Justify is a big word. I prefer emPHAsis. The electorate is the audience at a Dance of the Scumbags. "We came, we saw, he died [giggle]." I don't think Ted Bundy could do better than that. Neither Clinton nor Trump should be President. It's just that to use the word you use to describe sorting out jihadists, ultimately, consciously or unconsciously, the electorate is going to perform a personal triage on the flaws of the candidates. I forget the name of the surgeon, but when Connolly and Kennedy came into the Emergency Room he took one look at Kennedy and said, "That man's dead." Trump is dead.

turcopolier

bill Herschel

You are justifying her n what I see as her as yet unindicted crimes. The electorate will judge? Bullshit! The whole Borgist apparat including the media are campaigning against the fool. pl


The Twisted Genius

I'd like to see a good, in-depth journalistic exposé of just one of these pay to play allegations rather than the generalized public corruption allegations. Perhaps the Uranium One shenanigans would be a good place to start.

Bill Herschel

You are saying that Democracy does not exist in the United States. Pretty forcefully too. That goes way, way beyond a demand that Clinton be indicted for her crimes. It's a different topic.

The flip side of that is that I could work day and night and fail to justify her crimes. For me, her crimes start with what she did in Ukraine and Syria.

Edward

It isn't obvious to me that the B-21 corruption is a worse problem. Hillary Clinton is running for president. If she auctions off U.S. policy to foreign governments or corporations then that seems worse to me then the admittedly astronomical sums wasted by the military. Remember the S&L scandal? That was a many billion dollar disaster caused by "contributions" of ONLY several hundred thousand dollars to Rostenkowski (sp?) on the banking committee. If Clinton starts wars because of this corruption that is a worse problem. If she fills the government bureaucracy with political lackeys who can't do their job and are corrupt then that is the mother of many problems such as the Flint water crisis. Even if the B-21 problem were worse, why do we have to put up with this?

turcopolier

Bill Herschel

What we now have is "democracy" managed by the Borg. pl

different clue

The Twisted Genius,

Such an investigation would probably require reading all thirty thousand emails to search for the relevant emails in order to analyse them along with the events they may touch on.

Since the NSA probably has all those emails, along with everything else they have, one wonders whether Larry Klayman of Judicial Watch should launch a FOIA suit against the NSA to get those emails. And make them available to those parts of the press which still adhere to McClatchy Standards. Or perhaps a "secret snowden" is preparing even now to stealth-release them to Wikileaks. Perhaps a "secret snowden" already has.

Erik von Reis

There's nothing in the article except a statement from a Trump spokesman. What is the source of this info?

Old Microbiologist

The law on contracting is only valid if applied. Take for example, the government Obamacare website, which was steered to a foreign (Canadian) company at the behest and personal gain to a close friend of Michelle Obama. This is now costing tax payers over $2 billion dollars to establish which is ridiculous for a web site (my wife is a web designer of note so I have some clear idea of this process and actual costs involved). In fact an easy and cheap solution would have been to require insurance companies to add these functions to their own already up and running commercial websites at their own expense (being the actual beneficiaries of Obamacare). That is just one example of these kinds of cronyism derived corruption. Hillary is far worse. Yet, the DoJ which has the responsibility to uphold the law has been circumvented by the current administration to prevent any prosecutions (the list is long and Hillary is just one example). It extends far beyond that though and literally trillions are unaccountable in DoD. I believe it is a morass which is impossible to delve into now. A true Gordian Knot.

I find it interesting that so much uproar over Trump's second amendment reference. I think he meant it the way they said as it clearly (especially if you read the Federalist Papers) that the right to bear arms includes the right to overthrow a tyrannical government. If Hillary gets in and all her cronies continue the Obama policies or worse, then we will have in fact a tyrannical government and one which it's leadership is above the law. I do not hold any illusions though that Trump will change things though. But, I see a death spiral happening to the US and the eventuality of its demise looks closer every day. Should the markets collapse (and now leverages are over 150%) it cannot be recovered without a financial reset making the dollar worthless everywhere. Marx clearly describes this phenomena which is inherent to capitalism and we are way overdue for a reset which typically happens every 30 years or so but hasn't for a very long time. The strain gets larger as the deficits increase and will break despite everything. The only possible solution is yet another world war which we hear the drum rolls for daily now.

Old Microbiologist

Putin very clearly told Fareed Zakaria in June there is no democracy in America. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBTBBNOtbhM

Balint Somkuti

Or rather an oligarchy.

Dubhaltach

In reply to Bill Herschel 12 August 2016 at 09:30 PM


"You are saying that Democracy does not exist in the United States. Pretty forcefully too."

Weeeeeeeeel let's start with the fact that it's a republic with democratic elements.

Then from there we can move on to the fact that the democratic elements are managed by an oligarchy.

This "managed democracy" isn't quite the same thing as the Russian version of managed democracy but I invite you to think long and hard about the fact that your "democracy" is in the same territory as the Russian Federation's.

There's an argument, not one I accept, that only small countries - places like Switzerland, or any of the Nordic Countries, or Ireland, can really be democratic.

LeaNder

Off topic: Basic legal knowledge, should be obligatory knowledge, as far as education is concerned. ...

result of the book "Clinton Cash"

I am a bit hesitant of this type of "entertainment". But yes, the extend of communications between State and Clinton Foundation caught my attention too. If it wasn't a communicative trap, that is. ;)

turcopolier

LeaNder

"a communicative trap" What would that be? pl

LeaNder

Sometimes I vaguely wonder about the difference between "the Borg" and the media-Borg Karl Kraus, the "the master of venomous ridicule" fought at his time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Kraus_(writer)

turcopolier

All

The Founders and Framers of the Constitutional and over all governmental system of the United States never intended that the US should be an unlimited democracy. They created a republic ruled by oligarchs chosen from among the well to do and/or landed in the belief that these were responsible people with a stake in the public goo and order. All the leftist nonsense today about "to form a more perfect union," is IMO s deliberate misreading of the intention of the framers. What they meant was that they wanted a more effective form of government than had existed under the Articles of Confederation. The phrase has NOTHING to do with creation of a Rousseau inspired earthly utopia. NOTHING! The country remains a union of the states. This fact is an embarrassment to the utopianistas and they have constantly tried to destroy that fact through propaganda and such devices as the commerce clause of the constitution and the 14th Amendment. pl

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