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06 August 2016


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Bill Herschel

If the thing in the picture is real, it's not good. Reagan was not in his right mind for quite awhile in the White House and his spouse was calling the shots. It'll be President Clinton no matter what. I've forgotten what the rules are for a President who is incapacitated and who decides whether she/he is.

I will say that it is genuinely difficult to establish that someone is not competent. Aside from that, who cares how healthy they are. The electorate, just on the basis of what is known (the blood clot seizure thing), has got to know she is a slender reed.

Trump on the other hand and this is not a plea for voting for him I think is pretty solid. Never drank a drop of alcohol in his life or I daresay smoked a cigarette.


Colonel Lang, like in the case of e mails, I am afraid the Media may claim it was the Putin who pushed her off the stage.


Much a do about "very little" thing.
Photo looks photoshopped. The plastic cover around her face is obviously false. How can one diagnose oral cancer from 20 meters away?

That CPL advocates evaluation of the health of the presidential candidates is a valid point in general. At least conspiracy theories are avoided and at the same time one avoid demented politicians (who will be just figureheads like Yeltsin) from ruling as proxies.

different clue

I watched the PBS "over the delegate-top" speech that was linked to near the top of the thread. On a computer the resolution is too fuzzy for me to really tell just what details I may be seeing. She looked and sounded reasonably healthy and alert to me. I did not see any sign of that strange plastic thing on her lowest face/ uppest throat in the video that I see in the still pictures offered. Was that still-picture of her face from a different video or photograph than a still from the PBS video linked to here?

If her health problems are real, including a real hole or surgical gouge in her tongue; they will become worse under campaign stress and pressure in the coming weeks. If they are not, or they don't; then we may be misplacing our hopes in bad-health eruptions taking her off the stage. In which case, we will have to fall back on making the case against her on policy, history, the policy of people she has already said will work at high levels in the DOD ( Flournoy) and State ( Nuland) and etc. And her stances for Regime Changing and against reasonable relations with Russia. And her promise that Mister NAFTA Bill will be in charge of her "economic revitalization plan" for America.


Photoshop is magical; basically, you can do just about anything with it. Think "Lord of the Rings" or any kind of science fiction or fantasy book or video - Photoshop or some similar software were used to create those visual effects. Photoshop can be used to make Hillary's wrinkles fade, or alter her skin tone. Trump's peculiar shade of orange could not be improved by Photoshopping, IMVHO.

There are ways to 'mark' Photoshopped files for ownership (i.e., royalties), as well as for provenance. I have no clue about the accuracy or provenance of the photo connected to this post.

As for the topic of the thread - all candidates, including for senator and governor, should be required to have exams (mental and physical). We should also see their credit rating.

Daniel Nicolas

I think both of the Clintons are in such poor health that either are likely to have a major health event before the election.

The strong contrast between H. Clinton, and Trump doing two unscripted rally events in a day, several days in a row, week after week... it doesn't help her case for being 'fit' for the office.


"not necessarily"

robt willmann

The links in the comment above about Hillary's glasses and double vision did not stay together in one line, and will not click through to the page unless the last part is pieced together with the rest so that it will work. Here they are again, and maybe they will work without having to assemble them--




My guess is the white pixels in the photo have been shifted relative to the other pixels. Something weird is going on with the colors. Her eyes look as gouged as the tongue.


Totally convincing. I concede. If you kick my ass, but only severely, as determined by a group of experts, then Clinton will die in the the next five years of ovarian cancer.
Want to run that wager past your medical board?


This photo isn't necessarily a fraud. The purpose of the manipulation might be to make the tongue blemish more visible.


Pacifica Advocate,

"...she has had him in her pocket for decades."

"She won't have to watch her back."

Your text needed a bit of work, as well. I prefer my versions but YMMV. Cheers.

Nancy K

Come on, anyone can post a picture and say it is Hillary Clinton and that hole pictured on a tongue that may or may not be her tongue, must be syphilis. It seems the pro Trump people are getting very desperate. I have mentioned before that I was in nursing for 37 years many of those years were around clients that had seizures. I have seen grand mal, petit mal and psychomotor seizures and none of them looked like the video of Clinton that was slowed down to make every motion look very exaggerated. I have no clue what her health is or the health of Trump, who from photos looks very bloated, but then neither does anyone else on this site know for sure.Historically not all candidates have been healthy ie Roosevelt and Kennedy but somehow they were able to do fulfill their duties. I agree that maybe all candidates should have a legitimate health exam but may they should all reveal their tax returns also.


That's a trade I bet even Hillary isn't willing to make. She's in bad shape.

Eric Newhill

This is a recent photo from a source called "DC Whispers" - apparently the health issue is not well hidden anymore. This is not the tongue. It is a sick old lady that can't climb a short set of stairs. No photo-shopping here.


If she's that bad, she should withdraw. Period.



As soon as she releases the contents of her speeches to Wall Street.


How many lights are there, Nancy?



Its about to get Orwellian in here boyo.



There's a thread around here where oofda is failing at an equivocacy argument because Trump is "overweight" while Hillary is apparently a crossfit maven and those saddle bags are a right wing conspiracy.


There are a series of photos showing Hillary being assisted by staffers--more than one--climbing up a flight of stairs. These photos are Drudge's top story line today--August 8, 2016 and are also featured on Breitbart. The photos are from a campaign stop in South Carolina earlier this year. She looks pretty hopeless in the photos, but check for yourself. I apologize for not supplying links, but I'm pretty computer illiterate.


In reply to kooshy 06 August 2016 at 10:27 PM

You need to pay more attention it was Hitler who pushed her off the stage. Everyone knows that.

And Putin is worse than Hitler everyone knows that too.

Now fall in line.


Mz Stephanie;
I don't know where you circulate, but here in the Deep South, antipathy towards H Clinton is strong, especially amongst ex-Sanderistas. Many disappointed Sanders boosters I speak with are torn between voting third party, staying home on voting day, or voting for Trump in a "pox on both your houses" manner. Add to all this the unremarked fact that, assuming he weathers yet another right wing(!!!) attack on his leadership, Paul Ryan would be President Kaines' Veep. I wonder if this is how voters in 1876 felt.


Between the stair climbing problems, tongue biopsy, auto-syringe carrying quasi secret service agent, seizures, secret service agents with hands in a position to catch her Mrs. Clinton has serious health issues and will have to withdraw by the end of the month. New ground will be broken in the Democratic Party iby deciding who will move forward as the Presidential Nominee..


Apparently HRC is actually showing signs of Parkison's disease.

The confusion and wild head bobbing are side effects from anti-parkinsonian drug Levodopa.


Here is the Zero Hedge page - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-08/something-wrong-hillary-bizarre-behavior-seizure-allegations-raise-doubts-about-her-?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero%29

Nancy K

Clinton may have some physical problems, Trump may have some mental problems. I feel confident most Americans would prefer a president with physical problems over a president with mental problems. That is why I predict Clinton will win the election. Trump has alienated too many people with his narcissistic, grandiose, fear mongering behavior.

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