"What Trump Said: He explicitly raised new questions about his commitment to automatically defend NATO allies if they are attacked, saying he would first look at their contributions to the alliance, the Times reported.
What Elites Think: What a disaster! Does Trump not know that 20th-century alliances have prevented a third World War? Russia would take advantage of a weakened NATO to expand its control. President Trump would make the nation weaker, less relevant, and more exposed to threats abroad.
What Populists Think: If these countries want our help, they’ve got to pay their bills. We’re not asking for the world—only what they promised to pay under a treaty that obliges the United States to defend them. Fair is fair. What makes us weak is defending and extending one-way alliances. As for the post-World War II order that Trump threatens to upend, this is now a post-9/11 world; it can’t hurt to pressure-test the old institutions." Fournier in The Atlantic
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Trump thinks all deals are subject to re-negotiation. Treaties are deals. These deals are ratified by the US Senate. In Trumps mind we have the US Senate as the equivalent of a stockholder's meeting. Therefore, he thinks, treaty deals are subject to re-negotiation. This is a typical entrepreneurial business attitude.
Is there some reason why we should think that treaties are not re-negotiable? In fact the French withdrew their forces from the control of Allied Command Europe (ACE) while not leaving the alliance. Was this not a de facto re-negotiation of the treaty?
Borgists like Ron Fournier automatically shrink from Trump's desire to return America to an attitude regarding "foreign entanglements" that prevailed before WW2. This was an attitude that strictly put narrowly defined US interests first and regarded all else as "to be determined." Trump does not accept the internationalist view that the world is one and that the US should be its guardian. This spirit of guardianship seem to me to originate in the notion that the rest of the world is a very imperfect place that the God of the New England Puritans gave unto the protection and regulation of the "city on the hill." This is amusing since so many of the Borgians are now godless heathen.
I watched again the recent re-make of "Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy." This is the version in which the splendid actor Gary Oldman plays George Smiley. In the film, the Circus holds a Christmas party sometime at the height of the Cold War. In the midst of the sad revelry, Father Christmas enters stage right with his bag of goodies and wearing a Joe Stalin mask. the crowd stands and he leads the British spooks in a spirited rendition of the Soviet national anthem. I saw much the same thing happen after the fall of the USSR when American military spooks specialized in the USSR sang "I'm dreaming of a red Christmas, just like the ones I used to know." They knew their rice bowl was broken and they would all be fired or repurposed soon. The same was true of Iran specialists at the State Department after the Shah was gone.
Pitt the Younger said that the map of Europe should be rolled up for twenty years when Bonaparte's power was at its zenith. For the Borg (foreign policy establishment) world-wide, Trump World would be the end of them as a cadre. Cui bono? pl
His policy views has it's merits.
Take the South China Sea border conflicts.
The Philippines told the US to pack up and leave but now with the pressure from China, they come running back. The question is what American interests are served by taking on the expends of defending Philippine border claims. A relevant discussion for sure.
http://www.nytimes.com/1991/12/28/world/philippines-orders-us-to-leave-strategic-navy-base-at-subic-bay.html
http://thehill.com/policy/defense/231257-philippines-re-opens-military-bases-to-us-forces-
Posted by: Poul | 23 July 2016 at 11:28 AM
Well said, Colonel. I'd add that Trump's speeches may also be a signal of an attitude and weltschauung that a specific plan to "re-neogitate" every treaty. But treaties and deals are re-negotiated in word and deed all the time. I think at the very least, Trump's message is: I get that we as a nation have been played.
And yes, if Trump really can follow through with his views the Borg will see their wings clipped. At least for awhile.
Posted by: David Lentini | 23 July 2016 at 11:38 AM
What Mr. Trump proposes is to make present U.S. hegemony into explicit empire. It will be interesting to watch the tumult as vassal states decide to either bend and cough up their tribute or re-arm so as to be able to go it alone.
On one hand the neocons and Wilsonians will shriek and deploy against Trump, on the other, pragmatists in the arms trades may see great advantage in it. Trump has, perhaps inadvertently, divided his foes against each other.
If the treaty entanglements that pitched the globe into the first world war been subjected to debate as their provisions began to be invoked what a different world we'd have had.
Posted by: hans | 23 July 2016 at 11:53 AM
If the constitution is negotiable, then certainly a treaty is too.
Posted by: eakens | 23 July 2016 at 12:06 PM
Colonel,
You said: "This is amusing since so many of the Borgians are now godless heathen." I think, that's not quite accurate. It's not that they are godless, they simply think that they themselves are god! As far as the US allies are concerned, it may be painful to pay more for their defence, on the other hand, they then could face the US with a bit more self-confidence. At present, they resent being dependent on the US, but they don't want the cost of (relative) independence either.
Posted by: Kutte | 23 July 2016 at 12:10 PM
Sir
You've hit the nail on the head. The Borgist payola racket is under threat. And they're freaking out. I'm loving it.
Its high time we stopped meddling in others affairs when there is no national interest. In particular the Middle East. Let the Saudis, Turks, Iranians and Israelis fight it out. We should have no dog in that fight. I am also in agreement with Trump that NATO is obsolete and there is no reason why we can't have friendly and cooperative relationship with Russia.
Posted by: Jack | 23 July 2016 at 12:20 PM
Clausula rebus sic stantibus
Not holding up your end of the treaty might apply.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clausula_rebus_sic_stantibus
Posted by: Degringolade | 23 July 2016 at 12:33 PM
In order to command one has to pay. If the USA wants to be the hegemon of NATO it has to support it materially. If other countries have to pay for NATO then they will want to have a voice. The patriarch is a patriarch because it owns the herds and the land and supports with them his family.
Hegemons eventually become ruined by the expense of keeping their status.
Posted by: JLCG | 23 July 2016 at 12:55 PM
"his commitment to automatically defend NATO allies if they are attacked,"
I do not know who invented such a commitment. The borg make that up from the hot air they breathe out of their a**es?
It ain't in the NATO statutes. Article 5 comes with several caveats and each NATO nations could easily skip out of any "automatically defend" allusions. It could decide to do nothing or to do much, much less than send its army. More than "we promise we'll think about it" is simply not there.
Posted by: b | 23 July 2016 at 12:56 PM
Colonel,
I'm watching CNN which I normally don't do, and am seeing Ms. Hillary nominating as her VP running-mate your state's Senator in the Congress Sen. Tim Kaine (D-VA).
Kaine just cited that one of his children his son Nat who Kaine says is in the Military, a Marine who Kaine says is set to deploy to Europe in just a few days. It appears that Nat graduated Marine ROTC at George Washington University
My question, how has Tim Kaine represented your state Virginia as both Governor and now Senator?
I'm like you, I'm can't bring myself to vote for either the GOP or DEM prez/vp nominees, HOWEVER to "prevent" Hillary from waltzing into the Oval Office (which my lovely wife pointed out to me if I don't vote for Trump), I'm forced to vote for Trump as a split vote opens the door to Hillary. My youngest son suggested I look at the alternate candidates out there. I don't quite know at this point.
What's your take on Kaine?
Posted by: J | 23 July 2016 at 01:52 PM
That is a great version of "Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy."
There are two problems with Trump - the first is that he obviously hasn't thought much about any issues other than property development and brand licensing deals. That is, everything seems to be based on gut instincts and ignorance, which can work sometimes but are a dangerous way to make policy. His "analysis" doesn't seem to include any consideration of drawbacks or other side effects.
The second is that what he says today has little to no relation to what he'll say tomorrow, or next week, or even later today. He will say whatever appears to be best for him at that moment. Once again, that's a dangerous way to make policy.
Posted by: HankP | 23 July 2016 at 01:54 PM
HankP
I agree about Trump and will not vote for him, but my main reason is that having been a corporate executive for ten years after leaving the government I do not think such people should run the government. they don't understand that government is not business. OTOH I know HC personally and I think her to be a brain without a heart. I will not vote for her either. pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 23 July 2016 at 02:24 PM
b
"The key section of the treaty is Article 5. Its commitment clause defines the casus foederis. It commits each member state to consider an armed attack against one member state, in Europe or North America, to be an armed attack against them all." Wiki n NAT. We have been through this before you and I. I guess you interpret that quote as not being binding? Is this because you refuse to believe that Germany is or ever was actually protected? BTW, I was looking at the Saker's view of the Turkey "coup." IMO it is filled with unwarranted, and unsupported assumptions. pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 23 July 2016 at 02:30 PM
Not much of a brain either if she thinks there will be any winners from a war with Russia.
Posted by: irf520 | 23 July 2016 at 02:33 PM
Our choices appear to be an unprincipled opportunist who is a realist and one who is an idealist. I doubt I'll bring myself to vote for either, but survival odds are probably better under the former.
Posted by: jsn | 23 July 2016 at 02:38 PM
jsn
which is which? pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 23 July 2016 at 02:43 PM
Hank,
You Borgists need another line of attack. He's released a dozen plans and you're the supporter of a dynasty accusing Trump of only being interested in his name brand? Lmfbo.
Progs always lie, always project, and always double down on their lies.
Posted by: Tyler | 23 July 2016 at 02:44 PM
J
A well meaning churchy non-entity. pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 23 July 2016 at 02:44 PM
Col, it is refreshing to me to hear you and others recognize the need to shake up the foreign policy governmental apparatus that we have that probably exists more from inertia and a reluctance to cut budgets .... But I think our government needs to be more like a business which has to cut occasionally to survive and be strong... Just like trees benefit from pruning and forests benefit from forest fires ... Both of our political parties are frightened of cutting and slashing the government, why is that ? I personally love hearing Trump talk about renegotiating treaties and relationships.
Posted by: Walter | 23 July 2016 at 03:04 PM
Colonel,
You said: "This is amusing since so many of the Borgians are now godless heathen." I think, that's not quite accurate. It's not that they are godless, they simply think that they themselves are god! As far as the US allies are concerned, it may be painful to pay more for their defence, on the other hand, they then could face the US with a bit more self-confidence. At present, they resent being dependent on the US, but they don't want the cost of (relative) independence either.
Posted by: Kutte | 23 July 2016 at 03:13 PM
Hank
If you're a voter who votes for the duopoly then your choice is a) Trump who hasn't thought much about these issues but seems to have a good instinct as reflected in his interview with Pravda on the Hudson and his RNC speech or b) Hillary, who has thought a lot about the issues but has come to a wrong conclusion each and every time with disastrous results, demonstrating a track record of poor judgment.
Many will take a novice with good instincts compared to a seasoned "pro" of demonstrated poor judgment. IMO, you can't be persuaded about Trump as Tyler can't about Hillary. Everyone is pretty locked in by their biases. I live in a state that only votes Democrat. My county was one of the few in my state which Sanders won in the primary. I was at a local craft brewpub last night that gets a lot of blue collar folks. There was a lot of discussion about Trump's speech. Most were impressed and felt he was talking about them. Hillary comes across as elitist to them. To me that is a big tell that even in a Democrat partisan area a demographic segment feel an affinity towards Trump. Unlike previous elections people are engaged, and IMO it is because of Trump. This election will depend on who can turn out their voters in Nevada, Ohio, Florida and Virginia. Maybe Pennsylvania and North Carolina. At this juncture it's an even race, but considering the massive institutional backing for Hillary, Trump running a maverick campaign is doing really well.
Posted by: Jack | 23 July 2016 at 03:26 PM
Tyler,
I always assumed that Trump would set the agenda (he does have plans, but they are sketchy) and then bring in experts to bring him up to speed quickly and flesh out the details while considering the latest information. That is how CEOs tend to operate when brought into a new company to turn it around.
One could argue that of the two candidates, Trump's policies are more progressive, but one would have to look at what he said rather than the media broad brush name calling. Nothing is more progressive than good paying jobs - not (the soon to be automated) burger flipping for $15/hr) that provide a product / service worth a decent salary.
Fortunately, here in California, I can vote at 1930 PM, after the election has been called, and my vote will count for absolutely naught.
Posted by: ISL | 23 July 2016 at 03:30 PM
Granted, both candidates are terrible but consider the Supreme Court. Trump has listed his list of choices. Madame deFarge--Hillary--would pack the court with Justices that would make the old Warren Court seem a bastion of conservatism. Her court choices could easily steer the court way leftward for a couple of decades. To me, this a hold your nose no brainer.
Posted by: morgan | 23 July 2016 at 03:44 PM
Colonel,
With Donald Trump you get what you see a Reality TV Star Businessman plus a Christian First VP. With Hillary Clinton you get a War First Neo-Conservative and a 100% Status Quo Corporatist. I can’t vote for either ticket. The Green Party apparently will be on the Maryland ballot. Right now, I’d vote for Jill Stein to aid in the rise of a progressive party and Democrats Chris Van Hollen and Steny Hoyer in the hope of protecting my government pension.
The outcome of the election depends if votes of the Losers in the global economy in the USA outnumber the Cosmopolitan Winners and if the corporate media propaganda campaign falls flat on its face as I expect it will. It is not happenstance that the political leaders in the West are all incredibly incompetent.
Posted by: VietnamVet | 23 July 2016 at 04:04 PM
All,
Oh God, this takes me back.
In his December 1988 speech to the UN, Gorbachev publicly renounced the ‘Brezhnev doctrine’.
In February 1989, I and a colleague, interviewing for a BBC Radio programme, asked officials in Moscow what would happen if an Eastern European country tried to leave the Warsaw Pact. We were told – nothing.
When we went on to Washington and told a State Department official about this – oh the condescension. It would all be different, when the ‘movers and shakers’ entered the room.
I thought to myself: You people know nothing about imperial management. The ultimate sanction is always the possibility of ruthless force: read Kipling. Anyone who publicly renounces the use of such force has either gone bonkers, or has decided that maintaining the empire is not worth the candle.
One basic fact was also clear. The change in Moscow was not essentially due to Gorbachev being intimidated by the Reagan military build-up, the oil price collapse, the Afghan war, etc.
This man was not a ruthless power politician. Somehow, a naïve utopian idealist had ended up as general secretary of the CPSU.
And the people to whom he was listening were officials and intellectuals who had – quite genuinely – swallowed the ‘common security’ talk of the Palme Commission.
At that time, Georgi Arbatov, who had been a member of the Palme Commission, famously remarked that ‘We are going to do something terrible to you. You will no longer have an enemy.’
(See http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/politics-obituaries/8132697/Georgi-Arbatov.html .)
But of course, people in London and Washington quickly rallied round, confronted by this dastardly sneak attack.
When one tried to explain that the world had irrevocably changed to people in either place, they talked knowingly about ‘reversibility’.
Sometimes I thought that if they had been present at the execution of Louis XVI, even after the guillotine had fallen, they would have told you that his head could very well pop back onto his shoulders.
I tried making jokes, suggesting an article by Marshal Akhromeyev might appear in ‘Pravda’: ‘Marxism-Leninism: an idea whose time has gone.’
Eventually I realised it was no conceivable use.
Too many people loved their Cold War, and did not want to have it taken away from them.
Whatever his faults – which are clearly many – Trump at least holds out the promise of some ‘new thinking’ on the Western side.
Posted by: David Habakkuk | 23 July 2016 at 04:48 PM