"Turkish prosecutors have issued arrest warrants for 140 Constitutional Court members and 48 members of the Council of State in the wake of Friday night’s attempted coup. Ten arrests have already been made, local media reported.
The ten jurists detained were all members of the Council of State, which is Turkey’s top administrative court, NTV broadcaster reported.
The arrests followed media reports that judges at other courts had been detained, as the government’s crackdown on the judiciary in the wake of the coup attempt widens.
Constitutional Court member, Alparslan Altan, has become the most senior judicial official to be arrested after the coup, CNN Turk broadcaster reported.
RT'S LIVE UPDATES on the attempted military coup in Turkey
Earlier on Saturday, Turkish authorities relieved 2,745 judges of duty.
The decision to sack the judges was made at an extraordinary meeting of Turkey’s High Council of Judges and Prosecutors (HSYK), NTV broadcaster reported." RT
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From what I am hearing from sources in Turkey, this may have been a pre-emptive "false flag" operation in which a group of members of the armed forces were sent into the fraudulent "coup" by Erdogan loyalists among senior officers. He has appointed many. IOW the people in the "coup" may have been deliberately sacrificed as "props" so that Erdogan could whip up his followers and consolidate power before he changes the constitution to make himself an absolute ruler. pl
https://www.rt.com/news/351602-turkey-supreme-court-arrested/
I suspect this is the same person, who is affiliated with the DHKP-C, formerly Dev-Sol(Devrimci Sol - Revolutionary Left), one of Turkey's oldest and deadliest terrorist groups.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahar_Kimyong%C3%BCr
The pictures provided may be genuine, but the motivations of the source are highly suspect. (Note that I despise Erdogan myself, and wish he would be toppled, but the group with which Kimyongur is affiliated has committed plenty of truly horrific crimes itself.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_People%27s_Liberation_Party/Front
Posted by: Tristero | 16 July 2016 at 05:57 PM
Pat,
I'm open to your reasoned speculation here but I think a poorly executed junior officer's coup as a panicked response to coming purges is somewhat more plausible to me than a false flag.
What could go wrong? That would be giving up control of your airspace.
Posted by: Will Reks | 16 July 2016 at 06:17 PM
So what happens to the nukes on base in a situation like this?
Posted by: bth | 16 July 2016 at 06:20 PM
It's almost like some kind of Brotherhood or something.
Posted by: Tel | 16 July 2016 at 06:28 PM
"BTW, gulen and his followers, those "mild islamists" , those dishonorable, mendacious architects of Sledge-hammer and Ergenekon travesties against secular officers deserve all they get and more. Karma?"
Ishmael,
That explains why the army remained on the sidelines?
- Eliot
Posted by: Eliot | 16 July 2016 at 06:36 PM
This was in all likelihood a badly planned or hastily launched coup from within the military. It may well have been precipitated by knowledge of an imminent purge by Erdogan, ie, the purge he is executing now.
It may have been initiated by the Gülen organization (because its supporters are going to bear the brunt of the purge). The CIA probably has ties to Gülen, and may have known of the impending coup; it is also possible that they helped.
Erdogan didn't need the (failed) coup to carry out his planned purges (though he would have perhaps required more time to carry them out without it). He would have to be quite a gambler to have learnt of the planned coup, and to still let it happen and fail; I doubt if he would have considered the risks were worth the prize.
Manufacturing a coup is a very complex and risky undertaking, and it is very doubtful if Erdogan needed to do that to proceed further with his plans.
Posted by: FB Ali | 16 July 2016 at 07:02 PM
FB Ali
Somehow I do not think you have ever seen a false flag coup planned and executed by a head of state? That makes the planning of this disinformation operation much easier. pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 16 July 2016 at 07:17 PM
bth
Incirlik? This long after the Cold War why would there be any? It is a Turkish air base. pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 16 July 2016 at 07:21 PM
Will Reks
Well, the idea of a group of captains and majors (all that is showing thus far) thinking that they could take a couple of thousand conscripts, a few tanks and a handful of aircraft and take over Turkey is so beyond the realm of the possible that I just don't believe it. They must have had guidance from above and it was treacherous. pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 16 July 2016 at 07:29 PM
Will Reks
Most of my life was built around "reasoned SPECULATION" and I am quite good at thinking across the gaps in data. If you don't like that don't bother me any more with your presence. "giving up control of your airspace?" The Turkish air force is quite large. There were only a handful of aircraft in this. pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 16 July 2016 at 07:37 PM
Bingo.
Posted by: LJ | 16 July 2016 at 07:39 PM
Well according to this article from December, security was being upgraded at Incirlik for the 50 B61 nuclear weapons there.
http://www.dw.com/en/reports-us-nuclear-up.grades-in-europe/a-18731756
I'd be happy for someone to tell me I misread this.
Posted by: bth | 16 July 2016 at 07:41 PM
bth
Well, then we are even dumber than I would have thought. What the hell were the contingency targets supposed to be? Iran? Russia? Mindless bullshit! This is a Turkish air base. The permanent US presence there is an air base group that shares the base with the Turks and the deployed US air units there now. Essentially, the US personnel, the aircraft and the nukes are now all hostages of the sultan. Erdogan wants to trade us our hostages for Gulen? pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 16 July 2016 at 07:57 PM
Col. Lang,
"They must have had guidance from above and it was treacherous. "
Yes, indeed. Those who took the bait were planning a response, but the trigger was rigged. They were badly duped.
It is interesting to consider the span of tayyip's response. All major state institutions are being purged of all opposition. He could not have done this without such a pretext. Probably would have triggered some set of international sanctions against Turkey. BTW if Obama and Merkel impose economic sanctions on Turkey, they can get rid of tayyip. He is no Putin.
Ishmael Zechariah
Posted by: Ishmael Zechariah | 16 July 2016 at 08:04 PM
False flag operations are always my least favorite theory but in this particular case it does look like a good fit. In addition to some of the other points made, I kept seeing this footage of a group of young soldiers in a jeep driving through a hostile crowd and one of them waiving with a big smile on his face. I found this so out of place, how could this guy be so calm. If I was part of a coup, I'd be sweating bullets and I'd have to think that all but the most psychotic would feel nervous. Also, in all of the footage, I only saw young soldiers. So we have 3,000+ Indians and no Chiefs?
Oh, if Obama reacts to Erdogan's temporary closing of Incirlik by bailing out Turkey with a big fat aid package for our great, moderate Sunni state ally in our war against ISIS wouldn't that be a glorious thing (sarcasm).
Posted by: Chris Chuba | 16 July 2016 at 08:11 PM
Frankly, I do not think that he needed to do anything like that just to proceed with his internal purges.
However, if he now makes a big switch in his foreign policy orientation (towards Russia and China, and away from the US), then it begins to sound much more plausible. Especially with reference to the military, which I believe is much more pro-American than the general public.
Posted by: FB Ali | 16 July 2016 at 08:12 PM
Point deer, call horse.
It does not matter whether this was a false flag, or merely incompetence, or perhaps a mix of both. The result is the same: Erdogan has the power he wanted; his opponents will be in prison soon; the secular Constitution of Turkey will be swept aside (we know this has always been his plan) and the modernization that Ataturk brought to the Ottomans has been rejected.
Apparently this is what the majority of Turks want for themselves.
Just a question of how long the process takes, and how other nations respond to this. I would guess that Russia will respond coldly to any Islamist resurgence, and they weren't exactly warm to Turkey in the first place. Big question mark over how the EU will respond. The Beanheads of Brussels believe in stupid concepts like "momentum", growing the EU by dragging in anyone and everyone... but the people of the EU are right fed up with being told that Sharia is good for them.
Posted by: Tel | 16 July 2016 at 08:26 PM
TTG mentioned on another thread that the carriers Eisenhower and Truman had recently departed the Med in opposite directions. Does anyone know whether they might have been recalled to Turkish shores?
Posted by: ex-PFC Chuck | 16 July 2016 at 08:30 PM
tel
Yes it matters how the EU responds but they have already surrendered to the sultan once. what really matter is whether or not the US will surrender as well and allow the Sultan to pursue his goal of becoming sultan caliph. pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 16 July 2016 at 08:36 PM
Here are two articles from today (16 July) about the Incirlik airbase and U.S. military there. This one is from the Daily Sabah, and has the interesting photo of large airplanes from the U.S. Air Force and the German Luftwaffe--
http://www.dailysabah.com/nation/2016/07/16/incirlik-air-base-to-resume-operations-after-being-shortly-sealed-off-following-coup-attempt
This one is from the Stars and Stripes--
http://www.stripes.com/news/middle-east/turkey-closes-air-space-over-incirlik-grounding-us-aircraft-at-base-1.419447
Each one says that the U.S. operations at the air base are using electric generators to continue to supply electric power, which they call "internal power sources".
Posted by: robt willmann | 16 July 2016 at 08:44 PM
raven
Yes, reluctantly for lack of anyone better. This time I will vote for neither. pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 16 July 2016 at 08:52 PM
The public record tells us that there are about 100 tactical nuclear weapons of various types at the base. I recently read a document stating in detail their specs. That number is greater than anywhere else in Europe. (In total, we have kept about 300 in the European theatre, e.g. Italy, the Netherlands. I'm sure the Poles would be hospitable to a few dozen). They take taking on new significance in the context of Obama's announced $1 trillion upgrade of our nuclear arsenal which will concentrate on smaller, more easily targeted TNWs available for war-fighting scenarios. Unfortunately, I cannot put my hands on the source. (For details on the Obama project, see “As U.S. Modernizes Nuclear Weapons, ‘Smaller’ Leaves Some Uneasy“ WILLIAM J. BROAD and DAVID E. SANGER The New York Times JAN. 11, 2016)
Posted by: michael brenner | 16 July 2016 at 09:08 PM
Walrus,
All that would also be consistent with the government being tipped off though. Perhaps that caused the planners to move before they are ready. However I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out that someone working for Erdogan instigated it within the military as part of a clandestine project to suss out the remaining Kemalists for targeting. Might have been a case of that project getting out of hand. WAG only, but I see a great danger in allowing it to go that far for Erdogan. What if it worked??
It smells funny to me too, I'm playing Devil's Advocate for the moment is all.
Posted by: Mark Logan | 16 July 2016 at 09:14 PM
Country Air base Number of tactical
nuclear weapons (2010)
Belgium Kleine Brogel 20
Germany Büchel 20
Italy Aviano 50
Netherlands Volkel 20
Turkey Incirlik 50-90
Posted by: michael brenner | 16 July 2016 at 09:20 PM
oofda,
Here's one of many. What is going to happen to the moral of the Turkish army when this is how Erdogan's follows respond/
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4829085,00.html
Posted by: Fred | 16 July 2016 at 09:31 PM