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04 June 2016

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SmoothieX12

I don't think that BREXIT, while fairly important, is on the top of Putin's list of geopolitical priorities. Ukraine and smooth decoupling, in case of negative for Russia dynamics there, from Europe are by far more important. After Germany's addition of Russia to its "White Book" today as an opponent, it seems the strategic issue is settled.

kao_hsien_chih

David H.,

I wanted to chime in something that came to my mind somewhat belatedly after reading your post and Schwartz's article. Since it has been a long time since I had read it, I probably am remembering the details wrong...

Supposedly, when the Lakota tribe was being forced off their "ancestral" sacred lands of the Black Hills, one of them asked a Crow tribesman serving as a scout for US cavalry why he was helping the white men do this to "his own kind." The Crow replied, "because the Black Hills used to belong to the Crow several generations ago, until the Lakota took it from us." This fits with what A. I. Schmelzer said about the Turks and the Kurds some days ago, too, I suppose, and could be the same about the Lithuanians and the Poles or the Croats and the Serbs.

It struck me how the version told by the Lakota became the dominant version of the story for the Plains Indian tribes in multiculturalist textbooks, even though they were a conquering, militant, and warlike tribe who did not, let's say, play nice with their neighbors. Instead of a feared aggressor against whom weaker tribes willingly sided with the white men (not unlike the way Tlaxcalans and other neighbors of the Aztecs sided with the conquistadores), they became transmogrified to fit the multicultural sensibility of today's cosmopolitan morality. Hardly unique to North America: there was a book written some years ago that praised Genghis Khan as a sort of great multicultural hero, precisely because he caused the untold bloodshed that destroyed social fabric throughout the old world. It was all "worth it" I guess in the name of modernity, to quote Albright Khan, I guess.

The tribal histories of the "minority" peoples are often complicated and don't fit neatly into the multicultural sensibilities of modern elites. Today's "white men" want to live in a world where the lion and the lamb sleep side by side and are surprised when neither the lamb or the lion shares his idea of perfect world, for the reasons that are obvious to them but not to the "white man." (In case other readers hadn't noticed, I'm using the term "white man" sarcastically.) So I guess the solution is to declare that it's all the fault of the lion...until the lions go extinct at which point the lion is made into an icon of multispecies unity against the evil old version of the "white man," in whose mythologized story all of the non-human animal lined up behind the lion to resist the evil imperialism...so the new, enlightened "white man" should be like the lion and unify all animalkind to lie next to each other...in which irredentist, irrational lamb becomes the problem. Rinse, lather, and repeat.

kao_hsien_chih

Pilsudski, in 1920, might have said the same thing. His big idea (Promethianism) was that various "oppressed" natinoalities of the old Russian Empire could be mobilized under Polish leadership and be coaxed to resist the Russians. The biggest piece to their puzzle was also Ukraine. Kinda fitting since, as far as I know, the Brzezinski clan originates from the Western Ukraine, where Polish noblemen ruled over Ukrainian serfs and thought that the serfs naturally sided with them against the Russians. During both World Wars, the serfs showed that their attitudes were, eh, a bit more complicated--they sure didn't like the Russians, but they didn't like the Poles either.

LeaNder

We had rumors over here, to the extend I watch it, that Russia was trying to stir nationalist moods among part of our citizen.

I was not ever convinced. But admittedly did not take a closer look. From my uninformed and really highly superficial look at it, Russia no doubt may have connected with its based with Russian ancestry base over here.

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Besides, I somewhat doubt that GB's exit would matter much to Russia, you wouldn't of course assume that if you have the feeling it may prefer to see a weaker EU. ... convince me, it may be an advantage for Russia to see GB outside the EU.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93United_Kingdom_relations#Since_2010

LeaNder

Putin's decision to wait longer before going after Al Qaeda has. EU's backing of Erdogan and the Syrian rebel mix including Al Qaeda and the results of that policy from terrorism to immigration is pushing the so-called "populist" anti-EU parties from height to height.

I wouldn't as easily link cause and result, as you do.

What exactly should I know about Russia's "inaction" at one point in time, and the immigrant wave. I am aware that there is an argument out there that the Tayyip deliberately caused this to blackmail Europe. ... How many immigrants had Turkey taken in herself before it started big over here?

Concerning German ground: the old AfD (anti Euro) versus the newly split off one? Ever taken a look at the intellectual weekly background in Germany of the new AfD during recent decades?

Charles Michael

dedollarization:
it seems Iran is asking payments in euro for its oil
Russian Oil and Gaz to China are more and more paid in Yuan
there are somme talks of India joining the trend.
China's currency is now part of the FMI basket, rubble is still free-floating and convertible.

turcopolier

annamaria

" ... recent Wikileaks revelations of US State Department leaks that show plans to destabilize Syria and overthrow the Syrian government as early as 2006. The leaks reveal that these plans were given to the US directly from the Israeli government and would be formalized through instigating civil strife and sectarianism" Citation? pl

LondonBob

Leave have a small lead in the recent polls. Added to that is leave voters are much more motivated and thus more likely to vote.

Not sure Russia is much fussed either way.

Seamus Padraig

" Have Brzezinski and Albright actually forgotten the realities of the worlds from which they came, and simply succumbed to an American nationalist cloud-cuckooland? Or is what they say simply an exercise in pure cynicism?"

Well, being a cynic myself, I'd say the latter, David. Our State Dept. types have gotten very good at using these multi-ethnic states to their advantage--either to break them up (as in Yugoslavia and Iraq) or to cause grief for a neighboring state (the way Georgia and Ukraine have done to Russia). If you've ever read Brzezinski's book 'The Grand Chessboard' (1997), you know he's nobody's fool. He understands very well the importance of Ukraine to Russia:

"Ukraine, a new and important space on the Eurasian chessboard, is a geopolitical pivot because its very existence as an independent country helps to transform Russia. Without Ukraine, Russia ceases to be a Eurasian empire. However, if Moscow regains control over Ukraine, with its 52 million people and major resources as well as access to the Black Sea, Russia automatically again regains the wherewithal to become a powerful imperial state, spanning Europe and Asia."

Babak Makkinejad

Yes, Euro is a sovereign currency but Yuan is not. And it is impossible for me to see EU emerging as an independent power from the United States. For that to occur, they have to let Germany run all of Europe - that won't happen.

Iran is not acting as a sovereign monetary authority - which would require her to float her currency and let the chips fall where they may.

The Iranian central bank, like so many other central banks in the world, is acting like a currency board - itself a relict of the colonial times.


Jack

Thanks for the info from across the pond. While it is none of my business I am very curious how the Brits are going to decide.

Bandolero

annamaria

I agree that the Golan heights is a central point in the Syrian war. My belief is that this is the central point why Israel supports regime change in Syria, and why western governments - under pressure from the Israeli lobby - support jihadis for regime change in Syria. I understand that weakening Iran and gas pipelines do also play a role in western governments calculus, however I suspect they are minor compared to Israel and the Golan.

Leander

Whether the current German and EU elite or the AfD is of weaker intellectual background in Germany I would say would be open for discussion. I have no opinion on this, except that I may find it possible that Björn Höcke has a stronger intellectual background than German DM Flintenuschi. However, I have an opinion about the strong poll numbers of so-called populist parties in the EU. I believe that these strong poll numbers of the parties disliked by the current EU elites are connected to failed policies like supporting jihadis in Syria and hostility against Russia. And I suspect the longer the EU continues these policies, the stronger the populist parties will become. Whether it is Hofer in Austria recently, Virginia Raggi from M5S in mayoral elections in Rome today, the AfD in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern in September, or Marine Le Pen in the French presidential elections next year, I do think these parties are fueled by policies like supporting jihadis for regime change in Syria and they will grow as long as the EU doesn't abandon that policy.

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