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15 May 2016

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Dubhaltach

In reply to William R. Cumming 15 May 2016 at 05:08 PM

Given that Trump has already contradicted President Obama on the results of a British exit from the Eu he's already made his position clear wouldn't you say?

Why do you say "Both HRC and the Donald need to agree or disagree with the BREXIT" what relevance is it to the American presidential election? Or are you trying to say that as potential presidents they should be getting used to telling the British how to vote on domestic political issue?

Dubhaltach

In reply to Ulenspiegel 15 May 2016 at 07:29 PM

Grand coalitions seem to be political poison everywhere. I agree with you about 2017. My only query is the level of support for AfD could it conceivably go higher?

What are the possibilities if Merkel is unable to form a goverment with a majority in the Bundestag? Is there some provision for a minority government?

elaine

www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/15/pigs-head-found-outside-german-chancellor-angela-merkels-office

A pigs head was found outside of Merkel's office. There are over a 1,000 comments
on the thread


YT

Sir,

All apologies.

I seem to have "come under the influence" of my **** associates across America.

They INSIST that ALL (if not a majority) of the evil deeds on this Terra are a consequence of xenophobic talmudic teachings.

Whether that is true or otherwise is a matter of opinion...

P.S.: You are from the Scottish Highlands, yes?

Act of Defiance

She was not always sympathetic to refugees. Remember this from less than a year ago when she reduced the little Palestinian girl to tears? "Inscrutable" is exactly the right word when you are trying work out what this cow is up to

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/16/angela-merkel-comforts-teenage-palestinian-asylum-seeker-germany

Kutte

So what? So she might have a Skeleton in the closet. The communists weren't known for giving away presents, you had to do something for them. If somebody possesses something on her, she might be "persuaded" to change her policy. Are you aware that almost all the "refugees" came from safe places in Turkey, Jordan and Libanon? I said draw your own conclusion, IMO the favors the family had were very conspicuous, e.g. having 2 cars was unheard of in the East.

b

Anyone who believes that Merkel is driven by empathy or something similar sentimental should get their heads examined. Ask the Greek pensioner or the mostly jobless youth in Spain how emphatic she is.

Merkel wants to keep wage rise pressure away because that is what her sponsors demand. Importing a lot of very cheap labor is supposed to achieve that. The need to feeding them will then be declared to be another reason to cut social security.

She is the worst chancellor for Germany AND Europe since that Adolph guy. But her sponsors, including Obama, have a strong grip on the German media and will not let her go down until they have established a safe replacement.

Dubhaltach

In reply to Fred 15 May 2016 at 08:35 PM

The colonel linked to an article in the Guardian and one in the German edition of "The Local" a chain of English Language newspapers serving for the most part local news on a country by country basis.

Neither of those two articles bear even the remotest resemblance to the article in the Telegraph.

Did you even bother to read it ?

So to repeat about the article in The Telegraph:

It points out something very obvious that a people with very recent experience of being refugees are likely to have some empathy and sympathy for refugees.

Nothing in that article can even remotely be said to be arguing that all those refugees are virtuous "by extension" as you seem to be trying to claim. And in fact nobody with even the slightest knowledge of the Daily Telegraph's firmly anti-refugee editorial policy would make so ludicrous an assertion.

Better luck next time.

Dubhaltach

In reply to Tyler 15 May 2016 at 07:57 PM

Come back to me with that nonsense when you can read European newspapers in the languages in which they're written. Similarly for the TV an radio news coverage.

All you've got is bluster. As you conclusively proved below with your contrafactual BS about Merkel.

Dubhaltach

Yes I remember that. I also remember that that particular refugee wound up being granted permanent refugee status.

Fred

b,

"Merkel wants to keep wage rise pressure away because that is what her sponsors demand."

That's a bit of basic economics missing from the discussion on immigration in the US.

"The need to feeding them will then be declared to be another reason to cut social security."

That's another parallel here.

The Beaver

Colonel,

Few weeks ago I saw this on TV5 from the French show : Envoyé Spécial ( at 47 mins) wrt Angela Merkel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9AdtkOh3vI

and here is what Le Figaro has to say:
http://tvmag.lefigaro.fr/programme-tv/article/television/91741/envoye-special-brosse-le-portrait-atypique-d-angela-merkel.html

charly

So you assume FDP will return?

Kassandra

Merkel has been propaganda officer for a regional GDR students' organisation of the SED, so she got a profound training about the "Klassenfeind" and how it functions. Plus advanced skills in public perception management and propaganda. When she became functionary in the CDU and Helmut Kohl's favourite pupil, she knew already well how the Western system and the Borg works. So she could pull the correct strings with ease and made her way to the top, leaving stunned competitors in the party behind.
She is not a statesman but a power technologist, and does not allow values and res publicae to disturb her political control. From time to time, she does real statecraft if it coincides with a good public image and the agenda of her borg handlers, both in Europe and the US. But as soon as it becomes problematic, she drops it for the nearest clever opportunistic approach. She knows that politics often are a kind of organized crime and does not hesitate to play it in her interest, even if this includes bowing to offers she cannot reject. Handling blackmailing and being blackmailed is no problem to her, it's part of the game. So she is the best chancellor money could buy.
Different to Helmut Kohl who had some historical vision he fought for, she does not bother. She is a real danger for Germany and Europe: Giving comfort to the electorate while steering into the abyss.

Tyler

Dubz,

"Post links to stories that don't exist! Can't do it? I win!"

Gtfo out of here with your SJW horse shit and obfuscation. Those goal posts mean absolutely nothing when any one can Google Cologne attacks or migrant violence and get a wealth of stories off the radar and untouchable by Bild, Guardian, and all the others pushing Mutti Merkel's rapefugees. All you've got is a spun sugar narrative that can't survive contact with reality and a lot of petulant demanding of proof when you post none. Better get back to your safe space before you have to read hatefacts about what's really going on.

Tyler

Again with the insane standards of evidence while burying your head in the sand to the reality that rapefugees are a negative for Europe. Merkel's daddy fled TO Easy Europe, she was a very active member of communist youth groups, but that means nothing because there are no peer reviewed studies about it, m I rite? She evens governs like a cultural marxist but this means nothing in your SJW world where down is up and a man is a woman.

It's a legitimate observation to make (and one that obviously triggers you) that her being childless has something to do with her obsession with flooding Europe with young foreign men. A certain laisse faireattitude perhaps, seeing as she has no actual progeny to provide for? This is only controversial if you're an idiot prog having to face a reality he doesn't like. Again, a Google image search for Merkel and refugees has plenty of her smiling and carrying on with all these strapping rapefugees.

You are an SJW, and you don't set the rules here. Furthermore you don't even know how to use ad hominem correctly. I have you pegged dead to rights as another basic b-tch SJW who runs around demanding proof from anyone who screws with the Narrative, and then invents reasons to disqualify them while refusing to provide any of his own or running to easily debunked articles from Huff Post.

As an aside, do you have asperger's? Your stilted style and inability to process sarcasm and rhetoric is pointing towards yes.

Jack

As others more knowledgeable about German politics have noted Merkel and the Borg have the wind on their backs.

The Borg can retain power as they control the levers of power. Even as the bottom 90% fall behind and there is more push back the Borg seems to be able to get ahead. All this is doing is slowly strengthening the extremes on both the right and left. The question is how long before a demagogue corrals enough support and ends the facade of democracy.

I think this Fall's US election will be instructive. Will the Borg Queen prevail? Will The Donald turn out to be another Mr. Hope & Change?

Clearly resentment is building among large swathes of the population as they keep falling behind and they see the political and financial elites screwing them over. IMO, a point is going to be reached sooner than later when governments and central banks can't prop up the growing systemic financial leverage.

Things are starting to break down. The socialist paradise of Venezuela is one spark away from anarchy. In Brazil a corrupt "Bernie Sanders" government was replaced by an even more corrupt "Ted Cruz" one without any election. In China Xi Jinping is concerned enough to directly head the military. Danger signs abound for another global conflagration. The Borg is so entrenched and so far removed from the realities of the average person they seem destined to make the same errors that previous generations of elites have made in the past.

Fred

Dubhaltach,

The Guardian article by line is Mr. Michael White. The sentence with Charlemagne and Hitler is in paragraph 15.

"Nothing in that article can even remotely be said to be arguing that all those refugees are virtuous "by extension""

My interpretation differs from yours. I'm simply a humble graduate of Al's College and Muffler shop; where if you don't do things right the thing makes more noise than a Benghazi technical. If only I had gone to a nice SJW school like Harvard. There if things don't go right you pile on what you learned in the MBA (More Bull Available) program.

steve

"It's a legitimate observation to make (and one that obviously triggers you) that her being childless has something to do with her obsession with flooding Europe with young foreign men."

I guess another option is that she is unable to control her hormonal urges and wants to have sex with young, foreign men. Let's face it, Angela is just a German cougar.

Steve

Ulenspiegel

"So she might have a Skeleton in the closet. "

As far as I am concerned she behaved like 99% of all students in the GDR; as long as nobody can prove that Merkel was an informer and wrecked the careers/lifes of her peers it is only hot air. Or do you really believe that members of others parties did not work hard to find some dirt?

And again, if her father got a bonus because he cooperated you can not blame Merkel for this, sorry, Sippenhaft is not longer a feature of our of our legal system.

BTW The family (not relatives) we sent every christmas parcels had a son/daughter in law who were in church and had no problems to study.

Ulenspiegel

"Merkel's daddy fled TO Easy Europe, she was a very active member of communist youth groups, but that means nothing because there are no peer reviewed studies about it, m I rite?"

Both is wrong. You have obviously no clue what you are talking about and pull your "facts" out of your arse. Sorry.

Ulenspiegel

I live as German in Austria and have seen the development in Germany around 10 years ago in Austria (FPÖ/BZÖ = AfD). The larger parties lose voters to the right and struggle in Asutria to find a good discussion that creates permanent pressure on the FPÖ.

When the FPÖ can survive and strive with an dud like H.C. Strache at the helm then there is a real issue, especially when the only Federal State with FPÖ government in the past (Carinthia) went bankrupt.

Why should Merkel be unable to form a government, FDP or Greens will form a coalition.

Ulenspiegel

"Merkel has been propaganda officer for a regional GDR students' organisation of the SED, so she got a profound training about the "Klassenfeind" and how it functions. Plus advanced skills in public perception management and propaganda."

OMG, do you really know what her function was? Do you have a clue about the GDR?

"Different to Helmut Kohl who had some historical vision he fought for, she does not bother."

How do you know?

"So she is the best chancellor money could buy."

That is funny. Sheis Kanzler because she was NOT bought, something that killed Kohl and Schäuble. Your ability to handle reality is "interesting". :-)

Ulenspiegel

"She's not that type of person - she is always coolly calculating."

If you check her body language during her first years of minister she was clearly insecure, in clear contrast to a Schroeder or Putin. She was a grey mouse and considered not dangerous by the CDU alpha males, especially because she had absolutely no power base in the CDU.

The fascinating aspect of her career is that starting as unimportant minister 1991-1998 she build up a power base, avoided scandals, had no critical political inheritence from her GDR times, and killed politically Kohl and severly damaged Schäuble with one action and survived.

jld

Indeed!
It's a pity that such skills are used for malevolence...

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