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20 March 2016

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oofda

"Unaccountably wonderful" is spot-on! This was in the Post? The Washington Post? I think that I just saw a large Yorkshire boar winging his way overhead!

bth

"Notice the women students wearing the hijab at Aleppo University in government held Aleppo".

Colonel not being familiar with the norm in Aleppo and in particular at the university, what does that tell you? What do you see with an experienced eye?

turcopolier

bth

It tells me that these are women from pious but modern families. pl

mogol_gr

Surrender or starve.

turcopolier

mogul_gr

Firstly, don't ever post something here more than once. All comments are moderated. You will wait until I take notice of your comment like everyone else. Secondly your comment is incomprehensible. You don't like the article? Explain why or do not post anything. pl

Laguerre

Surprising that the University is still working. I have a student with a post there. He is a Druze, in danger every time he leaves his home in Suwaida, to make the trip. Fortunately he has a post-doc in Germany this summer.

turcopolier

Laguerre

How do you account for the university still being open? pl

bth

Thanks.... Seems like America should get on the side that can keep the lights in the street and of the mind turned on.

JohnH

When I was in Aleppo in 2010, I was surprised to see very trendy, upscale women wearing veils over their faces and hijabs over their blue jeans and velvet covered high heels as they strolled down a main shopping street. In Aleppo outerwear was much more conservative than in Damascus. Judging by what was sold in the store windows, there was a lot of very interesting clothing underneath the outerwear.

It looks like the magnificent Hafez al-Assad mosque, just west of the city center has survived in tact, while the Great Mosque next to the medina did not fare so well.

Brunswick

Patrick Cockburn and Robert Fisk, both at the Independent have been pretty much the only MSM journalists who have a "balanced" history of reporting on Syria.

Babak Makkinejad

Evidently, the Hejab crowd does not wish to join the Salafis...

gemini33

I was really surprised that there are still 120,000 students in that university. In a war zone. Amazing and it seems like it says a whole lot about how highly education is valued in Syria. I also found it to be "unaccountably wonderful" and wondered if I was missing something.

British journo Peter Oborne spent a week in Aleppo in February and did some really good reports from there. He works for more than one news outlet so a Google search of "Oborne" and "Aleppo" will produce some things about that reporting. He also did a BBC radio report that I liked. (This page is not user friendly imho so -- You click on the intersecting squares on left side of this page about halfway down, it opens a window with a player and then you click the play arrow to listen)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06zqq9n

johnf

Peter Oborne too did a wonderful piece five or six weeks ago for a specialist publication.

A version of it appeared in the Daily Mail. The words were not altered but the many photographs (the Mail on Line is overwelmingly visual) were captioned to make it appear he was reporting from East Aleppo.

Swerv21

This is just a theory about those girls.
If you are of marrying age and going to school in times like these, you'd like to meet a boy from the same "jama'a" as yours (that is, religious sect). Mixed marriages were somewhat exceptional in the best of times, but now...
Most of these girls are going to be Sunni. Christian, Alawi and Druze women in Syria don't wear hijab- and there are no Shia in Aleppo.

I agree with the colonel, I think most of these girls are as modern as the next girl- but they are good girls from good families.

But I've often wondered how much the hijab is a way for them to signal their affiliation so that the right kind of boys notice.

LG

The following twitter handle uploads photos every day of ordinary street scenes in government controlled territory.
https://twitter.com/mmaGreen/

LG

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https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/yom-kippur-war-1973-daesh-iraq-2016/ | Al-Masdar News

LG

Sorry wrong page. It was meant to go on the open thread page :(

Laguerre

Determination of the government to maintain "normality", I think. If you remember, they were continuing to hold the Bac, even in the isolated villages, by sending in the examination papers by helicopter, along with the examiners. One such helicopter got shot down, with the death of the teachers. I don't know whether that is continuing. They are continuing to pay the salaries of teachers even in rebel-held territory. That will help the education system to get going again rapidly, once the rebellion is over. A degree of obligation is being used though. The system isn't particularly nice to public employees. I won't bore you with the details.

Chris Chuba

Yeah, if the Assad govt is keeping civil service operating in rebel held territory then that does not fit the CNN narrative that he is doing everything he can (with Russian help) to destroy public infrastructure. It pretty much is as simple as that.

It looks like bad reporting results in even more bad reporting. CNN here's allegations and some circumstantial evidence that hospitals have been destroyed and that the Russians did it, wait, it's Putin, the guy who shoots down air lines and assassinates ex-Patriots, we don't really have to go out of our way to fact check this allegation. Oh, and the next time there is a Putin is bad story they will think, 'oh yeah, he's the guy who targets hospitals', so maybe he'll be blamed if the Ukranians attack the DPR.

In any case, CNN put it out there. They all but said, the Russians are attacking civilian targets in rebel areas. If this is demonstrably proved wrong in the future there is no way they can weasel out and claim that they were just reporting the news in a professional manner.

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