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15 March 2016

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pj

The American Conservative's foreign policy report card gives the nod to Sanders - http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/a-2016-foreign-policy-report-card/

turcopolier

Croesus

what is your definition? pl

rjj

If Karl Rove were running The Donald's show he would have bus loads of Young Republicans wearing SJW sloganed tee shirts out in force disrupting Trump's rallies.

rjj

What's wrong with the woman is that she has the defects of her virtues plus the wrong virtues for the times.

Fred

These are a far cry from the scenes of "Where the boys are" or "Gidget" movie days. You still haven't answered why I should subsidize "free" college when all that is obligated in return is a vote for a politician.

Fred

Matthew,

There's always the possibility that part of this was a political false flag to tarnish two candidates. The rest just spun out of control.

Kooshy

I don't see how Bernie being a liberal democrat from NE and a Jew from NY can have any chance in south and some MW states, if he becomes nomine of the democrats, against any republican including Trump. IMO if Trump stays on, as he has he will get the independent anti establishment and no to HRC democrat votes.

crf

What are the chances of changes in the cloture rule in the new congress?

Bobo

Well I'm surprised the allowing of political thought but then your right we have not seen this type of an election process in a long while or possibly never in my lifetime. A large majority of Americans recognize that the apple cart is on its way over its side and want it put back on a straight path. Whether they are for Bernie or Donald change is in the air. Personally I have been relegated to the back deck for the evenings (in the 80's here in No. Fl) as my better half believes the boob tube will be broken as I yell and scream at these inane anti-Trump commercials though I do hear her yelling during commercial interruptions of her Novellas, she is a Donald fan.
As to the Chicago protests Donald has blame in that he picked a poor spot and his organization failed him in not being too selective of his crowd. Bernie has some blame in that he has raised passions in a young crowd without teaching them how to focus their energies. Small potatoes for them both as Chicago is Chicago but these professional organizers need a visit by federal authorities to lay the law down so this does not happen again. Now the big culprit is the Media. Criminal News Network had the young man that rushed the Trump podium on TV a day after his claim to fame. The man belonged in jail without bail as his actions are a threat to society but CNN thought there was value?? What we see on TV is snippets that benefit individual societal beliefs, certainly not news, but then what do I know as I write from my back deck.
I wish all success with their candidates but after seeing the Republican Establishment in action I believe the Borg has another dimension.

505th PIR

1) Q. Why support K-12 Public Education? A. i.It is the great leavener and tool for socio-economic mobility. ii. It is democratizing iii. The skill set to compete and be productive economically in part relies on access to training beyond k-12. iii. Free Tuition at public colleges/universities...if the people want this to be so and express this via ballot, who are you to deny them. v. What on earth is wrong with having the most educated population possible...the long term dividends for the country are immense. vi. Could it be that such a nation might take more ownership for its decisions both political and economic. I don't know you Fred but the wallet clutching and movie/TV references bespeak a bygone group of folks looking for the good old days that really never were. This conversation is a tangential digression. REASON in a holistic sense is what I was getting at. Spring Breakers don't concern me a lick. Most of em have some kind of a silver spoon in their upbringing anyways.

505th PIR

Fred, I'd also be remiss by not pointing out that he'd put a tax on Wall Street speculation to cover the costs, your wallet is probably pretty safe.

cynic

Here's the abstract of the academic study about a year and a half ago which found that special interests have enormous influence on policy, whilst the American public has virtually none.
http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=9354310

"Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence. The results provide substantial support for theories of Economic-Elite Domination and for theories of Biased Pluralism, but not for theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy or Majoritarian Pluralism."

Vote as much as you like. It won't change anything important. Have fun.

greg0

Colonel, Thanks for the continuing ban on personal invective. When I am subjected to it by a political fanatic, I always have a lousy opinion of whomever they support. Much prefer rational explanations from electoral-vote.com or humor from The Nightly Show with Larry Wilmore.

pj

Another take on Bernie supporters - http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/sanders-sends-vegan-thugs-to-attack-peace-loving-nazis

turcopolier

cynic

Well, my English friend, that is what the revolt is about over here. Does any of your disdain apply to the somewhat united kingdom? pl

kooshy

At least here in US we don't have any part or state seriously considering session rom the union. But In and around Europe one can't no longer count.

Fred

505th,

You left out God, which the founders certainly did not.

I made no mention of k-12 eduction only the shifting of cost of college education entirely to the taxpayers. I disagree that a college education is not required to develop a "a skill set to compete and be productive economically in part relies on access to training beyond k-12." There are plenty of paths to being "productive" economically that don't rely on post K-12, i.e. "college" education.

Fred

505th,

thanks for your concern with my wallet. I look forward to when President Sanders gets the House of Representatives to do what Obama couldn't do when the Democrats controlled it - tax wall street. BTW Trump's going to have the same problem with Congress, but that's another story.

Fred

cynic,

when the ballots stop mattering many people stop voting. Though of course here they'll also eventually start shooting, which is kind of how this country came into being when you think about it.

505th PIR

Donald Trump tonight: paraphrased slightly "You gotta be rich to be great....." totally without soul or REASON.

505th PIR

I cannot speak to God. They had their world and we have ours, and our God (s)

William R. Cumming

IMO until June the most important political fact will be who, how, and when new or old candidates for the Senate and House choose to challenge incumbents. There already seems to be a prevailing view that the Trump candidacy has put control of the U.S. Senate back in play largely because six (6) Republican Senators are again seeking new terms in States that voted in 2012 for President Obama.

different clue

cynic,

It depends on what a critical-massload of readers of these posts and comments do with the information and analytical frameworks and conclusions learned here.

It may also depend in certain cases on who in power or in semi-power over certain things is also reading these posts and threads.

different clue

cynic,

What would a President Trump do if TPP/TTIP/etc. crosses his desk?
What would a President Sanders do if TPP/TTIP/etc. crosses his desk?

We know what a President Clinton would do. She would sign them.
And given how destructive these Free Trade Agreements would be, it matters if we have a President who would sign them or veto them. And if voting in primaries one way or another can effect who becomes which nominee, then voting would offer a chance to pick one or the other outcome for or against the Free Trade Agreements. That would be a case of voting changing something important.

rg

I continue to believe that the chances are pretty good that Joe Biden will be sworn in as President next January. There are certain powerful people who got the better of the Clintons during Bill's Presidency, and both Bill and Hillary would like to do it right next time, and to settle some scores while they're at it. It's possible that the Clintons are negotiating with these people, who are very close to Obama, Biden, and others, including Kerry, but we don't know. Bill Clinton's anger is probably seen as one of the most important risks. Hillary might be expected to be fairly malleable if Bill were not in the picture, but of course he is in the picture. Hillary has shaped up as a very weak candidate. She would win in November if the Republicans split, with Trump running independently, but the powers behind the Democratic Party probably fear that Trump has a good chance to be elected if he is the Republican nominee. Biden is avoiding all the degradation that so many candidates, including Hillary, have suffered in the campaign, and his negatives are a lot lower than hers. The decision to indict Hillary is more or less in the hands of the same elites who would probably like to have Biden as President. Obama appointed an upstanding Republican as FBI Director and could probably stay out of the indictment loop, publicly. If Hillary is indicted, Biden will be the nominee. An escalation of military tensions in the fall, contrived or not, would help Biden to win the election, due to voter fears about the candidates' relative levels of experience and prudence.

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