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15 March 2016

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William R. Cumming

How is it that a limited number of geographic locations became the drivers and sustainers of the American economy? Many of those areas have have huge transportation dependent populations, as regards no POVs.

Old Microbiologist

After last night's results I think the Bern is done. It is going to be HRC verses Trump unless one or the other gets killed or indicted. How a person can be supported in a run for President with her record baffles me. It indicates the corruption now runs so deep that laws or even rules mean nothing. They aren't even bothering with a Plan B which is extremely telling.

William R. Cumming

Of the candidates remaining which has the largest number of LOTTO players supporting him/her?

Old Microbiologist

ISL - You keep falling for the idea that there is any sort of real democracy in American and that the plutocracy must live by the same laws we do. here is only one party, that of the rich. There are 2 sub-groups but the evidence (or lack thereof) is clear. The Republicans have had a majority in Congress now for almost 4 years and could have impeached Obama any time they wanted. The budget Ryan put out was 100% of what Obama wanted. and Congress supported it. Obamacare could have been defeated many times over but it benefits the rich to such a degree it is embarrassing. They gave away to this clown full ability for treaty negotiations so don't believe for a second that there really are 2 political parties.

But, as history tells us when the wealth inequality gap becomes too large it always results in a revolution. We are arguably past the tipping point yet this ruse of a political contest and democracy seems to be keeping the citizens in check all while the federal agencies and local police forces become more and more militarized. I remind you that the NDAA authorizes indefinite detention without judicial oversight of any American citizen for any accusation. That also was voted in by Congress.

I think Trump represents an anomaly and it terrifies the Borg to such a degree they are openly uniting against him. That would be the end of it except the citizens don't buy into the BS any more. If Trump is cheated out of candidacy there will be open revolt. This leaves them really only one option to solve the problem ala Bobby Kennedy. Blaming a muslim will be manipulative enough that the citizens will once again fall into the BS trap for yet another ME war and ensure HRC her victory. I hope I am wrong but if I were analyzing decision choices this would be the neo-con's solution.

LeaNder

Have you read our dear Jeffrey's recent Obama portrait in The Nation? TS?

I have to admit it's interesting. Although, I cannot pretend I am a fan of Goldie. Hillary surfaces too.

Sometimes, you simply have to increase font size to make people listen. ;)

https://twitter.com/JeffreyGoldberg/status/709924404558479364

Tom

Ok. Here my two cents. I remember visiting the USSR in the middle of the eighties. A place in stagnation. You felt very strongly that something had to give. You just couldn´t imagine how. The change happened from the very top when a most unlikely person became general secretary of the CP.
Last time I was in the States three years ago. Washington DC, New York and Amherst college. Washington: a total bubble. Not only disconnected from the world, but even from the US. Visible signs of a massive health crisis. Malnourishment (obesity) on a truly unbelievable scale. Had a talk with medical researcher from Harvard. He talked of fudging of statistics on a Soviet scale. ALarm signs like the fact that kids start walking later and later simply being dismissed by hiking the average. Had long talk with policy wonk about health crisis. Best (in terms of money spent vs results)
health institution was the government run VA. Health industry in the States gobbles up nearly 20% of GDP and delivers less that government run system in Canada costing half.
Amherst College: 50 000$ tuition. Cleaners and janitors who work there make much less.Unsufferable PC atmosphere. STudents and faculty believe themselves to be oh
so liberal and progressive. They are in fact saying to the struggling rest: we are not only richer, we are also morally superior. That is spitting in the face of the rest of society.
Finally the military: it doesn´t exist the way it is because there is any need for it to be like that. It is armed in a way so that more people can make money out of it and it is being led in a way that satisfies the moral pretensions of a disconnected liberal elite. Witness the insane inclusion of women into combat units,

All of the above is just as wasteful and mad as the central planning of the by gone USSR. The USSR had oil to finance all this madness with. The US can just print Dollars by virtue of having the worlds reserve currency. It is much like the dream of medieval gold making alchemists come true.
Something has to give and something will give. In the case of the USSR change came from above. In the case of the US it seems like change will come from below. Trump is like a court jester (who traditionally were the only ones allowed to publicly tell the truth) being about to be crowned king. Same for Sanders. If both are blocked the whole system will loose legitimacy. If one of them makes it there will be chaos. Somewhere down the line the US$ will stop being the world´s reserve currency. Once that happens the whole mad edifice will come crashing down. Pity the elites. The have it coming.

Larry Mitchell

I would probably be willing to pay if I thought more young people would end up being trained for a productive job. But, I see too many young people now with college educations that do not get them a job and allow them to pay off their loans. Add to that the fact that post HS education has become the playground for flimflam artists of all types (apparently including one pres candidate), and it makes the probability of a productive education even smaller. If college becomes free, is there any reason to think these problems won't get worse?

turcopolier

Larry Mitchell

Sanders does not mention that the great majority of public higher educational institutions belong to the states not the federal government. Does he propose to fund the students directly or these state properties? pl

Croesus

Firstly, it was not my intention to be critical of SST; rather, I was recalling the challenge to SST "Toward a "Borg" Definition."

Next, I tried to address your question directly but had to clear my mind first -- I had just read a chapter or two of Heinrich Graetz's History of the Jews/ The Polish Jews; and also had just listened to Moshe Ya'Alon at the Wilson Center.

Graetz's treatment of Polish Jewry is scathing:

"A love of twisting, distorting, ingenious quibbling, and a foregone antipathy to what did not lie within their field of vision, constituted the character of the Polish Jews. Pride in their knowledge of the Talmud and a spirit of dogmatism attached even to the best rabbis, and undermined their moral sense. The Polish Jews of course were extraordinarily pious, but even their piety rested on sophistry and boastfulness. Each wished to surpass the other in knowledge of what the Code prescribed for one case or another. Thus religion sank, not merely, as among Jews of other countries, to a mechanical, unintelligent ceremonial, but to a subtle art of interpretation. To know better was everything to them; but to act according to acknowledged principles of religious purity, and exemplify them in a moral life, occurred to but few. Integrity and right-mindedness they had lost as completely as simplicity and the sense of truth. The vulgar acquired the quibbling method of the schools, and employed it to outwit the less cunning. They found pleasure and6 a sort of triumphant delight in deception and cheating."

Listening to Ya'alon (and his host, Aaron David Miller), put flesh on the word. "Israel is the only island of stability in the region; that is why Israel should be supported financially and politically ... If Israel were not there, and stable, imagine how many more refugees would flood into Europe ..." punctuated with, "Iran is evil," "Iran is evil," and summed up with "the Palestinian situation is not the problem that inflames the region."

Attempting to distill those two sources of information toward a definition of the borg, I end up with that distance between John 1: 1 -- "In the beginning was the word . . ." and John 1: 14 -- "and the word was made flesh."
The borg are masterful wordsmiths; they invent reality. The most pernicious thing the borg does through wordsmithing is to demonize entire populations with a view to inciting harm to them in one way or another. We used to call that lying, and lying that caused grievous harm to people was a mortal sin in the good 'ole days. Game theory, highly developed by the Institute for Rationality at Hebrew University, calculates the ways and extent to which the word can be used to provoke acts that will result in a powerful entity taking destructive action against a designated adversary.

The Word made flesh is reality -- "Truth is the mind's ascent (or assent?) to reality." Reality and truth appear to be the anti-Borg.

ok -- now I'm rambling.
Thanks for the forum.

Bill H

The media keeps saying that voters are angry at a disfunctional government, but is that so? Democrats are certainly voting to maintain the status quo, because no one with an IQ higher than room temperature can believe that she stands for anything other than that. She embodies the establishment, specifically the corrupt establishment, and is well ahead in the popular vote of the Democratic primaries.

Republicans are certainly angry about something, but is it Washington or their party against which they are revolting? That doesn't seem entirely clear at this point I think. Republicans, in any case, have a long history of being willing to lose elections in the short term in order to send a message to their elected legislators that the party line needs to be adhered to.

ambrit

I would suggest that, with control of the Executive Branch, and a workable majority of the Legislative Branch at the outset of his first term, the facts on the ground say that Obama did not want to do anything in the least "progressive."

William Fitzgerald

PL,

I think johnf's sentence is in west country dialect, as in Thomas Hardy's novels.

WPFIII

William R. Cumming

Between now and the Conventions try and assess the decision-making capacities of all the candidates? Are Americans in a mood to be led and follow or just abstain from the tough issues facing the nation?

Kim Sky

All candidates on offer are horrible. Discussions about anything worthwhile don't seem to exist.

Trump would be such a major embarrassment as this country's representative that it would be horrible to bear. But, I believe that resistance to the path this country is going on can only be brought about by his candidacy.

I say -- Vote for the fool.

Babak Makkinejad

Depending on the specific school and state, the funding levels by the states have gone down - at some instances to 30% or less of the annual budget.

The difference is made through the tuition of the out-of-state students as well as any federally funded research activities that they can get hold of.

Fred

Babak,

"The difference is made through the tuition of the out-of-state students..."

This is a very good point. It's why we have so many students from Asia. The side effect is that their enrollment prevents qualified American citizens (many being residents of the state the school is in) from being admitted. The taxpayers of the various states are thus subsidizing the collegiate level education of foreign nationals who, shock!, now have the credentials to obtain those "jobs Americans can't do, don't want" etc that is tossed around very time visa waiver programs are mentioned. It's also a reason for the proliferation of internet degree programs sponsored by state universities, including the one I graduated from.

Marc b.

I am just as fearful of her VP choice as I am of the demon herself. She seems genuinely fragile/unstable. Who are the candidates for a mid-term swearing in?

Fred

ambrit,

That's my take on the matter too.

optimax

I was a Bernie supporter who didn't support his entire platform but considered him the most honest of all the candidates. His not disavowing the"mobacracy" that shut down Trump's Chicago rally has turned me against him. Moveon.org organized this disruption that followed exactly the model outlined in in Saul Alinsky's book RULES FOR RADICALS. I don't want to hand more power to a mob of young punks that think democratic elections are determined by those who yell the loudest. Free college would just inflate the number of students that are taught uncivil behavior is a social justice right.

Trump is a type-a and i don't know if he's too much of a loose canon to lead the country. The media portrays Trump as racist but I don't see it. Most of the illegals are from Mexico and some are criminals. He wants to stop Muslims from radicalized areas of the world from entering the country until they can be properly vetted. Protecting our borders is not racist. Trump isn't a fool but would be good if he could self=censor and not react to every insult hurled his way.

CFN on Chicago rally"

http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/bull-run/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+clusterfucknation+%28Clusterfuck+Nation%29

different clue

Babak Makkinejad,

By now the difference is also being made up by rising tuitions on in-state students as well. What I don't know is how much of the rising tuition-price to students reflects a direct transfer of the cost from state-taxpayer-funded support for the state universities as against how much represents an actual increase in costs due to overpaid-administrator-bloat, grandiose campus building booms, etc.

Perhaps state citizen-voters in one or another state might want to see what the entire Adminisphere costed at their flagship State Universities at the end of the Golden Age of State Support . . . and see what the entire Adminisphere costs nowadays at those same Universities. And if the Adminisphere costs a higher percent of all costs at those universities than the percent it costed at those same universities at the end of the Age of State Support, the taxpayer state-citizens could offer, through their legislatures, to restore State Support to those universities which reduced the cost and staffing of the Adminisphere back to what it was in the days of State Support.

Perhaps a simple proxy for measuring that percent would be amount of faculty versus non-faculty. ( Genuinely useful non-faculty people such as mechanics, janitors, electricians, craftsmen, etc. would not be counted among the Administrative and Assistant and Assistant's Assistant to the Assistant's Assistant's Assistant type personnel who should be massively attrited and removed).

different clue

Bill H,

Not in Michigan or New Hampshire she wasn't. And New York, California and some others remain to be heard from.

different clue

Optimax,

I wonder if MoveOn co-ordinates with Sanders or if MoveOn does its own free-lance organizing. You are correct that Sanders has not disavowed any supporters he had at that rally but Sanders has also claimed that he and/or his organization did not organize it.

I wonder if Trump scheduled his appearance right next to a big University full of left wing students hoping for a mediagenic counter-Trump rally so Trump could gain sympathy and support from the broader public. He is a master of optics as well as a master of various forms of persuasion.

Free college wouldn't inflate the number of young punks at every college and university. It wouldn't inflate the number of Alinskyans at the Colorado School of Mines or at our ag-research cutting edge Land Grant Universities, for example.

pj

Question on CLinton emails - I believe I read on this board, not this post, that Hillary had instructed her staff to remove classified markings from official material and then email them to her. Does anyone have the source for that? Or, was it just conjecture?

Croesus

off-topic -- you mentioned Ag colleges & Land Grant universities.
Penn State has been a prime example of the success of both, and its Ag college is under pressure. The Pennsylvania legislature is poised to eliminate funding for Ag programs at Penn State

" Penn State College of Ag Sciences and Penn State Extension and Ag Research programs have received no funding for Fiscal Year 2015/16 and will begin the process of shutting down operations if funding is not restored by May 1."

"HB1801 and SB912 that legislators will be voting on today -- would put funding in place."
Call your legislators -- This link will take you to the Pa Legislature site where you can find and look up the phone numbers of your legislators: http://www.legis.state.pa.us/

rjj

Poison pill.

http://fortune.com/2016/03/17/donald-trump-sheldon-adelson/?xid=gn_editorspicks&google_editors_picks=true

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