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22 January 2016

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YT

Hear, hear...

LondonBob

Whilst I am loathe to tell other people how to run their own country's affairs if, as looks likely, it is Trump Clinton there is no need for you lefties to feel bad about voting Trump.

Here is lefty journalist Patrick Cockburn pseudo endorsing Trump.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/donald-trump-is-much-derided-but-he-is-right-about-the-middle-east-a6698171.html

I also saw prominent diehard lefty Piers Morgan, a friend of Trump, saying on British TV he would make an excellent President and that he hopes he wins.

Somethings are just bipartisan, and frankly too important.

Fred

Charly,

Mexicans arrive in the US with an ethic of "work, work, work" and are all Christian, mostly Catholic and have been westernized since the end of Aztec rule. That is not true of this recent round of those immigrants now entering Europe. There has been little talk of the need to reform the corrupt government or businesses in Mexico. In fact the richest man in the World, Carlos Slim, has been gouging poor Mexican's ever since he and the Salinas administration "privatized" Mexico Telecom right into his hands. An oil crisis and peso devaluation just added some spice to all the other deals. The liberals have been rather silent about all that. Being the largest individual shareholder of the NYT of course has no influence on such reporting.

Old Microbiologist

Hungary has a very hollow military. Zero helicopters and only 8 Grippen left in flying condition. There are roughly 10,000 in the military but all T-72's and BMP's were sold as "scrap" to a Czech businessman and all ended up in Ukraine in more or less working condition with only a few surviving the battles and have now ended up in the Donbass on the side of freedom. I wouldn't count on Hungary for any kind of effective fighting force.

LeaNder

OM, what's your take on the Czech republic among us Europeans outside Babak's Diocletian Line, can't help it, concerning the larger refugee crisis?

Barish

I do got to appreciate Israeli realism:

http://www.timesofisrael.com/biden-us-prepared-to-defeat-islamic-state-in-syria-militarily/

"“We do know it would be better to reach a political solution,” he said after a meeting with Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu. “But we are prepared if that is not possible to having a military solution to this operation and taking out Daesh (IS),” he said.


An unnamed US official stressed to Reuters that Biden was talking about a military solution to Islamic State, not the entire Syrian civil war."

The "Biden supports military solution for civil war" line being peddled by some outlets appears to be wishful thinking on part of the hive-mind. I listened in into this recording of the press conference taken from Turkish TV:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SS8C2HiKfg&t=12m0s

And Biden's talking points are that he agrees with Davutoğlu that al-Nusra, Daesh and PKK - tellingly not including YPG - are terrorist organisations that need to be fought together, and that the Turkish border must be sealed for use by Daesh. He further went on to laud Turkish efforts to reach a peace deal regarding the (Northern) Cyprus question.

YT

Let god sort 'em out...

The Beaver

Colonel
FYI:

Over the holidays I found that site and have been checking it back and forth, schedule permitting. This morning i wanted to catch up on what is happening in Deir Ezzor and it looks like things are happening on different fronts:

https://twitter.com/PetoLucem

LeaNder

alba, must be hard work down (over?) there in Texas. ;) Prejudiced? If so forgive, met quite a few interesting people from Texas ... problem is, I never really heard, at least I cannot remember a pure Texas accent, and doubt I would recognize it. Would appreciate some links soundwise.

Here is billmon1, who concerning the spirit this message conveys, may well be my dear beloved legendary Billmon, militarily short as necessary on Twitter with this news:

"Heaven knows (bada-BOOM) the Catholic Church is ripe for criticism, but this seems...gratuitous."

https://twitter.com/billmon1

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Interestingly I am struggling with the larger topic ... partly semi-consciously ... for longer now.

YT

All is flux...

Babak Makkinejad

Czech republic is not outside of the Diocletian Line.

The portion that was outside of that line, say east of 18-th Longitude, separated herself into Slovakia 20 years ago.

Medicine Man

This is a distinction which was not lost on a lot of Dem voters back in 2008. She didn't understand then how she was perceived and apparently still doesn't understand. In 2008 she was looking forward to the general election when Obama chopped her legs out from under her and now she's doing exactly the same thing.

Jack

Beaver

Below is an article with excellent map of Latakia front by the person you linked to.

http://southfront.org/map-decisive-days-in-battle-for-latakia-syria/

I've read that R+6 has now reached the outskirts of Rabia. They sure are on a roll in the NW.

The Beaver

@ Barish

Looks like Sec Def Ash Carter is pretty miffed at the Saudis et al :
In a separate interview with Bloomberg TV, Carter called the anti-Isis alliance a “so-called” coalition, highlighting frustrations the Pentagon has with some partners – particularly Sunni Arab nations – not doing enough.

“We need others to carry their weight, there should be no free riders,” he said.

robt willmann

Watch out for this dangerous proposed Senate Joint Resolution 29 (S.J. Res. 29), which the sneaky Senator Mitch McConnell (Repub. Kentucky), who is also the Senate majority leader, slipped in on 20 January 2016, and which has had its second reading and is on the general orders calendar for this coming Tuesday, 26 January. It is so new that right now it is only in the Congressional Record and is not yet on the bill's web page--

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-joint-resolution/29/all-info?resultIndex=1

https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/2016/1/20/senate-section/article/S133-1

It starts at the bottom of the second column of this pdf file version of the Congressional Record--

https://www.congress.gov/crec/2016/01/20/CREC-2016-01-20-pt1-PgS133.pdf

This is the Senate calendar for general orders for 26 January; it is the last item, number 352--

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CCAL-114scal-2016-01-26/html/CCAL-114scal-2016-01-26-pt6.htm

After a whole lot of paragraphs beginning with "whereas", in which ISIL/ISIS is hyped up to be more dangerous than Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, and the Apache Indians combined, there is this unlimited language as to scope, location, and time--

"(a) In General.--The President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force in order to defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, its associated forces, organizations, and persons, and any successor organizations."

All of the words in this grotesque "authorization" are undefined, and it is directed at a "threat" (undefined), and is not directed at acts of violence which have been committed, or at the situation in which it is imminent that death or serious bodily injury to U.S. persons is going to occur. Also, notice that it does not declare war on ISIS / ISIL / Daesh, but instead lets the president use force to "defend" the "national security" of the U.S. "National security" would mean anything the president says it means, and the Bush jr. and Obama administrations have made their own secret definitions of words. One might also argue that authorization is given for force to be used within the borders of the U.S. and against U.S. citizens.

The resolution passed in 2001 only authorized force to be used concerning those involved in the events of September 11, 2001, but it has been wrongly used to justify all sorts of activity and force that it clearly has nothing to do with. But this proposed S.J. Res. 29 has no limit.

It must be stopped.

Barish

He makes for a good clown, don't he...

Today's Zaman summed up the gist of the meetings VP Biden had with both Davutoğlu and Erdoğan without giving way to hysterics and outright fabrication (admittedly, Biden the old fool did make an awkwardly ambiguous statement):

http://www.todayszaman.com/diplomacy_davutoglu-reiterates-opposition-to-syrian-kurdish-group-after-talks-with-biden_410411.html

Just as the Times of Israel, it features Reuters's addendum which defuses Biden's rather murky statement.

Further, it mentions this as regards the meeting took place between Biden and Tayyip:

"After his meeting with Davutoğlu, Biden also met with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan in İstanbul. The meeting, which lasted more than two hours, took place at Yıldız Mabeyn Palace. Biden left Turkey after his meeting with Erdoğan. Altough the two leaders were expected to hold a joint press conference after their meeting, the joint press statement following the Biden Erdoğan meeting was abruptly cancelled in a last minute change."

Seems to me Biden was briefed to stop running his mouth and drive the point home to Erdoğan that there would not be some grand coalition to carry out Tayyip's very own "humanitarian intervention". If not that, at the very least there appears to be some serious disagreement.

Babak Makkinejad

You need to read the book "Strategic Depth" by Davutoğlu and his geometric model of power (and stability) in the Near East to partly understand why AKP government is doing what it is doing.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/6140100909?keywords=Davuto%C4%9Flu&qid=1453603871&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1

I think that anyone that thinks in terms of "Strategic Depth" is not thinking in the right manner about his country or his neighbors'.

Pakistan also has insisted in thinking in terms of Strategic Depth when it came to Afghanistan - as though a disorganized and anarchic collection of Middle Eastern Hoi Polloi tribes is going to offer that country any "Strategic Depth".

In case of Pakistan and Turkey, the damn fools only created "Strategic Milestones" around their own necks....

optimax

He sounds like a Taoist.

different clue

YT,

Well, no . . . not quite that, really. Various Russian spokesfolk have said tantalizing words about working at some level with the "patriotic opposition" which I guess would mean what very few non-Islamist rebels and opponents actually exist. I suspect the Russian spokesfolk mean negotiating about how to bring the "patriotic opposition elements" in out of the cold, away from rebellion, and back towards acceptance of the legitimate authority of the SAR government. If I understand correctly what I think I have read, I hope the Russian efforts can work out as hoped.

Killoff should be reserved for the genuine jihadis and Sunni Islamists of all different letters and flavors.

Tel

Hillary Clinton would be an appalling choice for US President.

alba etie

LeaNder
I am a lazzies faire Methodist so I am not qualified to comment on Billmon or Catholic Church , ..

alba etie

DC & YT
If I am not mistaken the original Liver Eater jihad violent porn video was made by a now deceased Al Nusra Leader ..Yes exterminate all the Liver Eaters full stop ..

alba etie

Ulenspiegel
Would these cruise missiles be nuclear capable ?

LeaNder

the referral to Catholics looked at generously was some unnecessary addition, here used as an example for something like a private underlying greater theory. Less generously it could of course could be termed: LeaNder's usual silly babbling. Which it no doubt is.

But a Texas accent? I have been wondering about that for longer now. Your comment triggered this question: Would it be easy to find on the web?

http://www.dialectsarchive.com/texas

Hmm, I get an idea.

*************
Besides, it feels that Pat may decide similarly once events unfold like that. Thus nothing wrong about it.

Consider my comment innocent babbling, i do respect you and your comments here. And am pleased you are around, not least given your insights concerning Yemen.

LeaNder

Babak, will you give me a map. I promise if you do, I'll never ever again refer to it again in my own legendary nitwit ways.

My only possibly ill-focused approach on matters, so far, are other interesting aspects of Diocletian's life and decisions. But the line, seems to divide, besides no doubt important aspects of culture, people into groups one good the other evil, or beyond hope.

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