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02 December 2015

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PeterHug,

One wonders if Russia sent some Intelligence Infiltrators into Israel among the large Russian-Jewish immigration into Israel. One wonders if some of any-such Russian IIs might be skilled in underwater demolitions and sinkings . . . or know how to get in touch with people who are. One wonders if once one of Erdogan Mini-Me's ships reaches port in Israel, that some unknown frogman could attach limpet mines to its side somewhat like somebody's frogmen attached a limpet mine to that Greenpeace ship in a French Pacific island that one time.

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robt willmann,

Wouldn't it be neat if Syria's Ambassador to the UN brought whatever formal complaints are brought against any French and British bombing raids into Syria as violations of Syrian Sovereignty and Unprovoked Aggressive War actions? And made a point of saying that Russia has been legitimately asked for legitimate assistance by the legitimate Syrian government and Britain and France are therefor interfering with the legitimate Russian assistance which the legitimate Sovereign of Syria has legitimately asked for?

If the Syrian Ambassador to the UN could somehow force that onto the docket for discussion, that could also smoke out which UN governmental delegations have been instructed to support the terrorists as against supporting Syria and Russia? If they all want to support the Axis of Jihad, let them be forced to say it in public at the UN.

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Valissa,

This is very heartening. Cruz is just barely on the "edge of the mainstream" of the R party. If the R party observes him getting serious agreement for this view among the Tea Party basemembers, then other R party officeholders could use Cruz as shelter under which to begin backing away from supporting American leadership of the Global Axis of Jihad. If enough Republicans turn away from their current pro-terrorist orientation, this could leave the D party officeholders alone in supporting terrorists, including their pro-terrorist President Obama. Perhaps it could set the stage for a needed extermination of the Democratic Party from political existence. Then the Sanders-type people could form a New Deal Restoration Party, or whatever they might want to call it. And make it clear that No Democrats Need Apply.

Valissa

different clue, very heartening indeed! Found the link at Antiwar.com's main page, where they share news headlines.

IMO, today's Tea Partiers tend to adhere to the traditional conservative position on war, which is to take a cautious approach to it though not going quite so far as isolationism of some of the paleoconservatives (like Pat Buchanan).

David Habakkuk has been pointing out how the comment sections of news are pushing back against the US propaganda narratives, and I've been seeing more of that as well. If more and more citizens express their discontent with the MSM propaganda narratives, then politicians will naturally follow suit.

Degringolade

This could prove interesting

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-04/1200-turkish-troops-said-invade-iraq-near-mosul

Thomas

"When does Erdogan resign?"

After Vladimir Vladimirovich's State of the Nation address, it won't be necessary because it looks like Sultan Tayyip will be sent to the Seventy Two Houri Schoolmarm's Remedial Theology course with all the other departed jihadis.

Ishmael Zechariah

Thomas,
You are right. I am posting here what Putin said below.
"The Turkish people are kind, hardworking and talented. We have many good and reliable friends in Turkey. Allow me to emphasise that they should know that we do not equate them with the certain part of the current ruling establishment that is directly responsible for the deaths of our servicemen in Syria.

We will never forget their collusion with terrorists. We have always deemed betrayal the worst and most shameful thing to do, and that will never change. I would like them to remember this – those in Turkey who shot our pilots in the back, those hypocrites who tried to justify their actions and cover up for terrorists.

I don’t even understand why they did it. Any issues they might have had, any problems, any disagreements we knew nothing about could have been settled in a different way. Plus, we were ready to cooperate with Turkey on all the most sensitive issues it had; we were willing to go further, where its allies refused to go. Allah only knows, I suppose, why they did it. And probably, Allah has decided to punish the ruling clique in Turkey by taking their mind and reason.

But, if they expected a nervous or hysterical reaction from us, if they wanted to see us become a danger to ourselves as much as to the world, they won’t get it. They won’t get any response meant for show or even for immediate political gain. They won’t get it.

Our actions will always be guided primarily by responsibility – to ourselves, to our country, to our people. We are not going to rattle the sabre. But, if someone thinks they can commit a heinous war crime, kill our people and get away with it, suffering nothing but a ban on tomato imports, or a few restrictions in construction or other industries, they’re delusional. We’ll remind them of what they did, more than once. They’ll regret it. We know what to do."

Seems like some folks will have some bad hair days in a bit.

Ishmael Zechariah

The Beaver

Colonel,

Well ISIS oil is going via Turkey but it is insignificant ...

AFP via Al-Arabiya :
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2015/12/04/U-S-official-ISIS-oil-smuggling-to-Turkey-insignificant.html

"The amount of oil smuggled into Turkey from areas of Syria controlled by the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) is economically insignificant, the United States said Friday, after Moscow accused Ankara of profiting from the trade.

U.S. officials said coalition air operations have seriously degraded the militants’ oil infrastructure, but that in any case most of the crude pumped from its wells was absorbed inside Syria’s war zone economy."

turcopolier

Beaver

The US government is committed to Obama's policy of backing Sultan Tayyip against Russia at all costs including that of the truth. Al-Arabiyah network is a Saudi owned and operated propaganda tool. Obama's obsession with re-designing the world order requires the humiliation of Russia even if that means supporting jihadi allies like Turkey and the Gulfies. pl

Thomas

Ishmael,

"Allah only knows, I suppose, why they did it. And probably, Allah has decided to punish the ruling clique in Turkey by taking their mind and reason."

Vladimir's darkh humor illustrates that he has maintained his humanity unlike the Sultan and the Exceptional Emperor.

SAC Brat

A good speech by Vladimir Putin. Puts some strong cards down on the table and doesn't use weasel-speak. Thanks b.

Annual Presidential Address to the Federal Assembly

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/50864

annamaria

http://www.unz.com/tsaker/week-nine-of-the-russian-intervention-in-syria-the-empire-strikes-back/
It does not seem that the Empire of Federal Reserve would accept any negotiations. For now there are lies, dishonesty, and barbarity emanating from the empire and her vassals. There will be a continuos, unstopping attempts of provocations and insults towards the Russian Federation. The war profiteers, led by the financial sector (Wall Street/City of London), are not able to stop; they need more money and power, the humanity be damned. It is striking to what level of degradation and indignity the MSM can descend. The presstitutes have a field day. https://consortiumnews.com/2015/12/05/pbs-joins-the-msms-syria-russia-bias/

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