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19 November 2015

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Valissa

Well Tyler you can't be talking about me. I did't vote for Obama and have never been shy about criticizing him. I'm not a Democrat or a Liberal. Some of the links I shared pointed to Bush's time in office, but let's be real here... the CIA as undoubtedly had a Syria department for at least 65 years, that's a lot of presidents. Wonder how many people it employs?

All presidents have done stupid foreign policy shit in the name of Pax Americana no matter what political party they belong to. The Clean Break paper came out in 1996 while Clinton was in office. The neocons were around then, building their power base, which includes Dems as well as Repubs.

Obama didn't fire any neocons, and he has mostly continued their policies, and he's been in office for 7 years so he is fully responsible what is going on now.

Valissa

When I saw the first Tulse Gabbard interview I was reminded of Dana Rohrabacher. I wonder if they are working together these days.

Here are some links from my archive...
Why I Voted against Condemning Russia http://nationalinterest.org/feature/why-i-voted-against-condemning-russia-11828

Here's Rohrabacher going up against Victoria Nuland on the Ukraine http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4530163/dana-rohrabacher-truth-tells

Alternate reality? US Congressman Dana Rohrabacher stands up to State Department, tells the truth about US policy in Syria and Russia http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=25209

Tyler

Valissa,

*thumbs up*

scott s.

Tulsi is an interesting phenomenon. The Gabbard family has made something of a political name for itself, operating outside the Inouye sphere of influence. (Inouye was pretty much the godfather of Hawaii politics. Since his passing we are seeing how things will play out here.) Gabbard the father and patriarch made a name for himself on social issues and rode that into the state Senate as a Republican. He promptly switched to Democrat under the theory that only Democrats have power. Tulsi seems to have been able to use the benefit of the family name in her run for Congress, getting past derogatory comments made about her family's relationship to Krishna (I guess she officially describes herself as "Hindu"). Part of that though is in the nature of Hawaii politics. The 1st CD is urban Oahu (Honolulu) while the 2d CD is the "neighbor islands", though the dividing line runs across various Oahu neighborhoods and the decennial redistricting has seen battles over the drawing of the boundary. As it is, the 2d CD representative has always been from Oahu. The district was previously represented by Daniel Akaka (moved up to Senate after Matsunaga), Patsy Mink (died in office. Actually, was re-elected after death), and Mazie Hirono (moved up to Senate after Akaka). Akaka, Mink, and Hirono followed the Inouye plan -- speak softly and build up seniority so as to reward friends and punish enemies. With Tulsi being outspoken, and daring to cross Hawaii's favorite son, it will be interesting to see how this plays out here. So far I'm not seeing any negative press which I find very interesting.

Degringolade

As always....DuffelBlog finds a way to make sense of the whole thing

http://www.duffelblog.com/2015/11/us-bombs-israel-just-to-be-sure/

Babak Makkinejad

I think people all over the world are myth-informed and those myths takes over their minds and causes poor decisions.

Valissa

That is a particularly good satire... it could almost be a regular news article... LOL...

Not quite as clever, but some might also enjoy this bit o' snark from The Onion...

Study Finds Controlled Washington, D.C. Wildfires Crucial For Restoring Healthy Political Environment http://www.theonion.com/article/study-finds-controlled-washington-dc-wildfires-cru-51780

Amir

And the latter will NEVER be forgotten nor forgiven. The Iranian leader that fails to grasps it's significance, should be put en par with Jeltsin.

Amir

Biggest concentration in CA between LA and SD with some divided (Beverley Hills) loyalties.
Second biggest N.Y. Little- and Great Neck but they have divided tribal (Israel) loyalties.
Tristate around DC is the third largest, MD mostly Old Money Shah Elite, NoVA new professionals in IT / defense and healthcare.

Valissa

Answering my own question about whether Gabbard and Rohrabacher are working together... they are on same House committee. One can only hope they are influencing other committee members of both parties.

House Committe on Foreign Affairs https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/about/membership

Amir

The problem is similar with the Mongolian conquest and the birth of Islam. Both were built on a youth bulge. The latter due to favorable climatic conditions and expansion of grassland - receding Permafrost to the North and decreasing desert surface to the South of great Mongolia. The former was a direct result of Mohammad's banning of Arabian Penninsula's custom of female infanticide.
This new youth bulge in Saudi-Arabia in general, and within the "Aleh Saud tribe" in particular, is the result of free Black Gold sprouting on their lap.

user1234

Nice sailboard!

The Twisted Genius

user1234,

Mine is a Mistral Escape 3.45 meter with a North Quattro 7.2 meter sail. With the cams, it more like a wing than a sail. Picked up windsurfing on the lakes of Bavaria.

The Twisted Genius

Babak,

True, that's the nature of culture. One hopes one's culture is not too dysfunctional, but sometimes we get what we have now.

alba etie

WRC
Dubya always struck me at his core to be an angry dry drunk ..

Tyler

Valissa,

This is my favorite.

http://www.theonion.com/article/educated-bigot-that-much-more-terrifying-20630

William R. Cumming

Thanks Amir! I note that many of them still communicate with friends and relatives in Iran.

David Habakkuk

Degringolade, Valissa, Tyler,

Another from 'The Onion': 'Parents Dedicate New College Safe Space In Honor Of Daughter Who Felt Weird In Class Once.'

http://www.theonion.com/article/parents-dedicate-new-college-safe-space-honor-daug-50851 .

I do wish that the satire did not seem uncomfortably close to the actual truth:

'''When our Alexis felt weird after hearing someone discuss an idea that did not conform to her personally held beliefs, she had no place to turn,'' said Arnold Stigmore, standing outside the $2 million space that reportedly features soothing music, neutral-colored walls, oversized floor cushions, fun board games, and a variety of snacks. ''God forbid any of you, in your years at this institution, are ever confronted with an opinion you do not share. But if you are, you will have a refuge on this campus.'''

user1234

Yep, good stuff, definitely feels there's something in common with flying. Although I like no cams :-)

I picked up a late 90's (?) Mistral, a Vision, which I think is a different beast from the Escape. It is too hard to balance when starting or turning, but pleasantly loose at speed - the instability becomes a plus once it's going, almost like a bike vs a car. Overall though it can be a very frustrating ride if not in the right state of mind or body, so I don't sail it much. Occasionally get out on a more modern board when I can get my hands one...

alba etie

William Fitzgerald
MSM is reporting that Ms Clinton is now saying that Assad should stay so that we might defeat ISIS . Yet I look at the transcript of her recent Syrian speech and do not find that reference ...More triangulation with a complicit MSM perhaps ?

Tyler

Mr. Habakkuk,

That could literally be ripped from the headlines. Holllyyy crap. The Onion is turning on the SJWs.

Medicine Man

I think they were lambasting all kinds of confirmation bias types with that one. You can easily apply that one to either the Berkley drones or the homeschooling set.

Valissa

Tusli Gabbard (D-HI) and Austin Scott (R-GA) introduce some potentially game changing legislation. Even if this goes nowhere, it shows that some in the gov are attempting to change course on Syria. Gabbard is calling out the CIA as well :)

CAPITOL HILL BUZZ: Forget Assad, Focus on IS http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/capitol-hill-buzz-forget-assad-focus-35326502
In an unusual alliance, a House Democrat and Republican have teamed up to urge the Obama administration to stop trying to overthrow Syrian President Bashar Assad and focus all its efforts on destroying Islamic State militants.

Reps. Tulsi Gabbard, D-Hawaii, and Austin Scott, R-Ga., introduced legislation on Friday to end what they called an "illegal war" to overthrow Assad, the leader of Syria accused of killing tens of thousands of Syrian citizens in a more than four-year-old civil war entangled in a battle against IS extremists, also known as ISIS.

"The U.S. is waging two wars in Syria," Gabbard said. "The first is the war against ISIS and other Islamic extremists, which Congress authorized after the terrorist attack on 9/11. The second war is the illegal war to overthrow the Syrian government of Assad."

Scott said, "Working to remove Assad at this stage is counter-productive to what I believe our primary mission should be."

... Since 2013, the CIA has trained an estimated 10,000 fighters, although the number still fighting with so-called moderate forces is unclear. CIA-backed rebels in Syria, who had begun to put serious pressure on Assad's forces, are now under Russian bombardment with little prospect of rescue by their American patrons, U.S. officials say.

For years, the CIA effort had foundered — so much so that over the summer, some in Congress proposed cutting its budget. Some CIA-supported rebels had been captured; others had defected to extremist groups.

Gabbard complained that Congress has never authorized the CIA effort, though covert programs do not require congressional approval, and the program has been briefed to the intelligence committees as required by law, according to congressional aides who are not authorized to be quoted discussing the matter.

Gabbard contends that the effort to overthrow Assad is counter-productive because it is helping IS topple the Syrian leader and take control of all of Syria. If IS were able to seize the Syrian military's weaponry, infrastructure and hardware, the group would become even more dangerous than it is now and exacerbate the refugee crisis.

Johnny Reims

Valissa of the fens,

Holy Mother of God…a politician from my home state, that being Jawja, has actually taken a position on US foreign policy I support, at least from what I can tell. I never thought I would see the day.

Maybe I should write a letter to Rep. Scott of Augusta, encourage him for taking a stand, play up Jawja and all of that.

Eh…on second thought, at this point, I think I would rather try to go back to Seville and drink a San Miguel.

bth

Interesting developments. Iranian fighter planes now escort Russian bombers through its airspace. Russians are bombing IS tankers as are the Americans, who largely left them alone until recently, but now the Russians have today filed a protest with the French for bombing the same tankers without permission from Assad. Also the Turks filed a diplomatic complaint with the Russians for bombing too close to its border within Syria. No wonder ISIS remains largely unscathed. What a cluster. IS leadership, now perhaps safely tucked in western Iraq, must be laughing at the folly of its enemies.

As an aside, I wonder if anyone has access to the current street price of diesel in Syria and whether it has gone up or not in the last month?

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