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18 November 2015

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William R. Cumming

Whatever the truth or reality of the extracted statement in your comment "the goal of U.S. foreign policy is simply to destabilize the world, . . . "

it is far easier to argue for that conclusion as opposed to a US FP that seeks stability IMO

Are we up to a dozen nation-state leaders, some elected, that the US has deposed or helped depose since August 1945? Or is it more?

William R. Cumming

Certainly agree that the GREAT GAME now a GLOBAL GAME!

William R. Cumming

Walrus! Hoping you read THE PENTAGON'S BRAIN by Annie Jacobsen just published!
An open source history of DARPA.

David Habakkuk

Origin,

Thanks for a thought-provoking post.

You write:

'It seems to me that Israel is just another tool to be used to further the ultimate world order of total domination.'

I do not want to overstate the role of the Israeli lobby, but I really do think that this greatly understates it.

The key catastrophic action in Iraq – for which we in Europe are now paying a very high price – was the disbandment of the Army. As I noted on an earlier thread, the recent piece by John Hay in the 'American Conservative' reminds us that this was not some kind of consensus decision by the U.S. Government – or even by 'the Borg'.

It was the very specific responsibility of Bremer, who appears to have been selected by Libby and Wolfowitz. Moreover, as Hay also makes very clear, the reason this was done was that those involved were not dealing with Iraq realities at all – they thought they were re-enacting the destruction of Nazi Germany. What we are dealing with are trauma victims incapable of escaping from their trauma – a kind of person who should not on any account be allowed any role whatsoever in making a country's foreign policy.

(http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-deciders/ .)

As it happens, many of the most incisive critics of the 'Borg' – and also of the conduct of the Israeli state and the 'Israeli Lobby' – are of Jewish origin. So far at least, however, such people have had very little political influence.

A critical political issue now is whether more diaspora Jews will break with uncritical support for Zionist agendas. If they did, it might perhaps to do more than more or less anything else could to undermine the position of the 'Borg'.

In an article just published on Robert Parry's invaluable 'Consortium News' site, Lawrence Davidson – himself of secular Jewish background – reports remarks by Rabbi Rick Jacobs, the president of the Union for Reform Judaism: apparently the largest Jewish denomination in the United States.

In the speech, Rabbi Jacobs said that: 'Asking Jews around the world only to wave the flag of Israel and to support even the most misguided policies of its leaders drives a wedge between the Jewish soul and the Jewish state. It is beyond counterproductive'.

(https://consortiumnews.com/2015/11/18/reform-judaisms-israeli-critique/ .)

However, reading a fascinating article he wrote back in 2004 entitled 'Zionism and the Attack on Jewish Values', to which Davidson links, I find it difficult to see that people like him have made any great progress in the intervening years.

Having discussed a range of Jewish organisations which have been opposed to Israeli policies, he goes on to write:

'Mainstream Judaism, however, is ever more closely identified with Zionism and the state of Israel. There are some 13 million Jews throughout the world (approximately 5.8 million of them live in the United States as compared to 4.6 million in Israel). According to the Jewish Agency, ''70% of Jews around the world see Israel as vital to their Jewish identity.'' Zionist education is aimed at the remaining 30%, who are categorized as victims of ''assimilation and Jewish illiteracy.'''

Actually, most of the – immense – Jewish contribution to British life in the past century comes from victims of 'assimilation', and their descendants: some of them had already succumbed to this dreadful fate even before they came here, others gave in after their arrival: or their children did.

But ironically, the fact that so many Jews have merged into the surrounding population creates a bizarre problem. One is then left with a Jewish 'community', which is frankly tribalist, which is committed to unquestioning support for Israel – and which has laid a claim to be the sole representative of Jewish identity in Britain, with a great deal of success.

So, in effect, Jews who want to escape from the world of trauma tend, over time, simply to cease to be Jews. Those who are both powerful and define themselves as Jews are, very commonly, unprepared even to try to escape from trauma. If you think I am exaggerating, read Ari Shavit talking to Jeffrey Goldberg and David Remnick about about how Jews are 'endangered' – both in Israel and the United States.

(For Philip Weiss's discussion of this, and the relevant link, see http://mondoweiss.net/2013/11/american-endangered-shavit .)

However, if Jews want to define themselves as a 'tribe', it follows as a simple point of logic that the 'goyim' have every reason to ask whose interests members of that 'tribe' in positions of political and social power are serving. And if in addition Jews outside Israel want to follow Shavit, and assume that the 'goyim' are always liable to rediscover their inner German Nazi or Russian pogromist, their gentile neighbours would be very foolish indeed to trust them. ('Mug punters', as we say in England.)

There is no problem with 'dual loyalty', so long as it can be taken for granted that there is no conflict between the two loyalties. But the possibility of conflict emerges – and the policies adopted by Zionists have caused this to happen, in relation to Israel – then those championing the interests of another country are acutely liable to be seen as outsiders, if not indeed subversives.

It is now almost a century since Edwin Montagu, then the sole Jewish member of the British Cabinet, and having recently been appointed as Secretary of State for India, a critically important position, in the context of the World War and Muslim unrest in the subcontinent, made his unsuccessful last-ditch stand against the Balfour Declaration.

In his memorandum entitled 'on the Anti-Semitism of the Present (British) Government', Montagu wrote:

'Zionism has always seemed to me to be a mischievous political creed, untenable by any patriotic citizen of the United Kingdom. If a Jewish Englishman sets his eyes on the Mount of Olives and longs for the day when he will shake British soil from his shoes and go back to agricultural pursuits in Palestine, he has always seemed to me to have acknowledged aims inconsistent with British citizenship and to have admitted that he is unfit for a share in public life in Great Britain, or to be treated as an Englishman.'

(See http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/Montagumemo.html .)

Everything was of course changed by the Holocaust. However, the effects of the courses of action which were recommended in the 1996 'Clean Break' paper may very well, over time, bring the question of whether Zionists are really fit for a 'share in public life in Great Britain' back. It will come back, initially at least, among minorities – but the attempt to silence with these with talk of 'anti-semitism' will not work: it will simply provoke derisive laughter.

Reading Philip Weiss's blog over the years, I have often been struck by how much in common he has with Montagu. In both, I think, genuine concerns about justice and humanity are intermingled with an awareness of the question of the conditions under which members of a minority group can expect to exercise power in a society, without risking a backlash.

But then Weiss has often looked to me, over the years, like a First World War officer who has gone 'over the top', and looks back, and finds that only a handful of his troops are following him.

Babak Makkinejad

The key catastrophe, in my view, was the Iran-Iraq War were Arab states (excepting Syria), US, Western European states, and USSR squarely aided and abetted Iraq and her leader, Saddam Hussein; rather than doing their utmost to bring the war to an speedy end.

For example, in a manner similar to the aftermath of World War I in Europe, the Iran-Iraq War has been the seminal psychic scar on Iranians; having alienated them - perhaps forever - from the Sunni Arab world, discrediting international institutions & treaties in their eyes etc. - making them into what they are today.

In regards to Judaism and Zionism, I am pleased to see that you have come closer to my point of view; that effectively and for all practical purposes Zionism and indeed the State of Israel are part and parcel of a religious enterprise clothed in the garb of European Nationalistic Ideas.

And to the extend that NATO states aide and abet that religious enterprise, they are taking side in a religious war between Judaism and Islam. The other religious war that NATO states are taking part in is on the side of Sunni Arabs against all things Shia.

It is important for me to point out that if one negotiates a cease-fire over Palestine, then NATO states could also assume a position of cease fire then with respect to Islam, if not with respect to the Shia Crescent.

Furthermore, if NATO states accept the public Iranian offer of "Spheres of Influence" then they could likewise end their participation in the current Sunni against Shia War. Perhaps a cease-fire deal can be negotiated there as well.

I understand that to the Europeans, Islamic Republic of Iran, due to her Islamic character, is as retrograde as ISIS is and as worthy of opposition and ultimate destruction.

But that is also something that they cannot achieve just as they cannot force Muslims to accept Israel as a legitimate state.

In my opinion, Sunni Arabs will not succeed in defeating or destroying Shia.

Since neither side can prevail at acceptable costs, cease fire seems to be in order; even if Peace is not.

And since NATO states have a lot of leverage over Arabs, Israel, and Turkey, they can end the hostilities and initiate an across the board cease-fire.

That is the way forward, in my opinion.


Origin

You attribute the present to "What is happening in the "Balkanized Crescent" is not due to this "strategy" of the borg but is an extension of one of the many possible post Iraq War outcomes due to the continued enactment of neocon policies by these incompetents in office."

This phenomenon long predates the Iraq War or any of the failures such as Bremmer's decision to liquidate the military and the Bathe party. Also, I see a difference between the Borg and the Cabal. The Cabal is comprised of the few who have the power to make the decisions to conduct operations and to prefer groups over others, such as preferring Iraq over Iran during the Iraq-Iran war. The Borg as I see it is the collective conscience of the resulting polity that is formed by the results of the Cabal's actions as the followers-on study the "reality" created by Narcissus who acts for the Cabal.

Babak Makkinejad

Yes, I agree.

Any way, there does seem to be more handsome Euro-American males in Wall Street than handsome Oriental-American males.

Babak Makkinejad

You seem to be living a very isolated life - like LeaNder; Man, you got to get out more often and see the world....

Origin

I used to think stability and peace was the goal of American policy. Now I do not.

All I can use to decipher what is real is observable evidence, the footprints of the policy so to speak. The footprints are quite clear and deep in the present muck. There seems to be only one tool being used by American Policy, destabilizing, that is disrupting, all groups who seem to be contending for power in any area. U.S. policy actors use progressive stoking and damping of groups to maintain a modicum of common chaos everywhere. If one group falls behind while another seems to be gaining, the prior is encouraged and the latter further destabilized and vice-versa. The prevailing footprint is application of a policy of making sure no group competing with the US ever can get ahead. The only time any group can prosper in this context is when the group is totally under U.S. management and control. The only way anyone can ever find peace is through total submission.

Moreover, the policy is fractal. That is, it is applied from the largest world movement down to the smallest local controversy or event and to the most minute group, all with a consistent vengeance.

The destabilization tool has been successfully applied for over a century now. As a result, the planet has not progressed much and is facing increasing dangers of world wide system collapse.

Origin

David,

Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I accept the power of the Israel lobby, but think it is not as determinative in American policy as one might think. I think many, if not most of the politicians who heavily court it and give it lip service despise it. The same probably goes for the National Rifle Association.

The Israel Lobby is like the mother of an over indulged and coddled alcoholic son who has another malicious relative who hopes the alcoholic son will founder to claim his inheritance. The mother blindly plies her sick son with alcohol to avoid his blameful rage against her using very good booze from the bar the malicious relative keeps fully stocked. By keeping the bar fully stocked, the malicious relative promotes the downfall of both the mother and the son so that the malicious relative can snatch their inheritance.

By feeding Likud so it can commit genocide, the U.S. is simply precipitating the suicide of the State of Israel, all the while maintaining a balance of suffering and power in the MENA.

What a deal for the price of a mere $5B a year which is less than the cost of a good skyscraper or two?

Origin

Babak,

Not too long ago, I would have thought your proposition that "since NATO states have a lot of leverage over Arabs, Israel, and Turkey, they can end the hostilities and initiate an across the board cease-fire." should be promoted by American policy makers.

The Cabal will never accept the public Iranian offer of "Spheres of Influence". The current context of chaos is the highly successful, intended result of American strategy as was the Iraq-Iran War to begin with and the 1953 revolution. America will not allow any nation or group it does not control to have a sphere of influence if it can be avoided, even China.

If there is to be some resolution to the current context towards accommodation and peace, it must come from somewhere other than the U.S. because the Cabal has exactly what it wants right now.

turcopolier

Origin

IMO all the chaos is the result of simple incompetence and blindness to reality. pl

Jack

Sir

I tend to agree with you as I don't believe the Borg is that organized and sufficiently competent to execute a concerted strategy of chaos.

In the many analyses that I have read it seems the American people get a pass. It's like all that is done in their name and interest is done without their kowledge. If only the American people knew the truth....

What role do you think we the citizens of the United States play in the current outcome of chaos? My Dad believes our changing character is the root cause.

Origin

Col,

As the penultimate teacher and spook, you let your students contend while you lurk in the shadows only to show us our weaknesses and oversights after we have exposed our shortcomings, literally to the world, by our musing on this site.

I used to be of your opinion. However, awhile ago you set me on a quest of study and observation. What I have found is that US foreign policy does have a simple template for its strategy. The spokesmen, movers, and shakers all expound on the surface facts, but all use a simple phrase, over and over.

It is, "We need to do is...." It is that phrase that convinced me all was not stupidity and incompetence.

The "We need to do is..." is followed by actions and those actions follow a quite predictable template. What the "to do is..." is to do something disruptive, something that is destabilizing to whomever is the current target, so that no one, other than the US, is dominent within any sphere. Everyone else is off-kilter, always. If they do not follow our lead in the dance, we trip them. Hence, most watch and emulate closely trying to follow our pattern of steps. All others are disrupted and the others do not have sufficient resources, though they may try, to disrupt the U.S. This is not to say that in the future someone will not succeed and bring us down. The template has been used again and again and mostly with great success.

You, yourself, have been personally privy to at least one of these operations, the Tonkin Gulf incident. Johnson, the then Cabal leader, cocked up an "incident" so he could start escalate a war directed at weakening the Soviets through attrition. The psyop was as much against the American People as it was against the communist block.

One can review history since then to see the Destabilizing Hand consistently and effectively at work in almost all of the "crises" all around the world. We all know you cannot answer the question, but how many times were those who you associated with or commanded during your time as a civilian in the DIA being used as Destabilizing Hands? Was that use the result of intent or stupidity?

The theory is also predictive. Search out and find some up and coming movement anywhere in the world, and particularly in the Chinese Rimland and soon, the Destabilizing Hand will be seen, though it may not clearly be exposed for years, if ever. Have American destabilizers been at work in Burma, a country on China's Rimland? What about with the Uighurs in western China? In Indonesia or Thailand? Have they been getting some help from the Destabilizing Hand?

Obama promotes a "Pivot to Asia". Is he speaking about a mere turning of attention to the region or has he dropped the subconscious hint that he is talking about using the Chinese Rimland as a fulcrum point in the sense of the old concept of "Geographic Pivot of History"? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Geographical_Pivot_of_History

Is not creating professionals for this process the whole point of establishing SOCOM, now an "independent" branch of our military?

The strategy has been applied too often and with too much success to simply be the result of incompetence or chance.

Also, from my observation, those who inhabit the Cabal are just not stupid people. It is inconceivable to me that what they do, year after year, is thoughtless or based in incompetence, even though those in the surrounding Borg may truly be incompetent and stupid suckers as they do the footwork for the deciders.

One must discern the difference between the competence of the generals (the Cabal) and their troops (the Borg). Either group may make the execution of the enterprise appear stupid even though the other may be brilliantly competent. If the generals are cagey enough, they can mask any of their failures as the apparent stupidity of the troops or, when the enterprise does really bad things or the whole operation goes fubar, they can focus the blame on the sergeants.

You have stated many times that the country you were born in no longer exists. I have the same perception. Something happened sometime during and after Viet Nam. America somehow ceased operation as a beacon for good on the hill and has become something else, mean, scared, xenophobic, poorer, and malignantly different.

Before we who love America can begin to recover some of our nation's former goodness, we must clearly understand what we are now. That is our duty and we must not shirk it.


turcopolier

origin

You believe I betrayed your trust by letting you publish the piece when I did not agree with it. A lot of people publish things here that I do not agree with. They can do that so long as they do not violate my rules, That will continue to be the case. pl

Origin

I absolutely do not believe you betrayed my trust.

You completely misinterpreted my compliment to you as a penultimate teacher.

In my view a good teacher should allow his students to explore and not to impose his thoughts. If you had said my writings were misguided at the beginning, this thread could not have taught me so much as I have my theories reviewed by my peers and others would not have been so stimulated to give their expressions.

You provide this wonderful forum where you allow thoughtful post from a wide range of views. I think we all know that many are at odds with your views. You have described your blog as a Committee of Correspondence. It is the wonder of such correspondence that views and counterviews do ultimately get to some truths though none of the authors here have a clear view of it.

Instead of blaming you for breaching your trust, I thank you for truly keeping it. Through correspondence, we are all enlightened, confirmed, and chastised no matter how wacky or right our ideas may be.

In that vein, perhaps you will consider that all is not the result of incompetence and chance.

Babak Makkinejad

Thank you for your comments.

One can always hope that things would be otherwise.

turcopolier

origin

"I absolutely do not believe you betrayed my trust. You completely misinterpreted my compliment to you as a penultimate teacher." Thanks. That makes me feel better. pl

Thomas

"The Borg as I see it is the collective conscience of the resulting polity that is formed by the results of the Cabal's actions as the followers-on study the "reality" created by Narcissus who acts for the Cabal."

Since you wish to differentiate between the Borg and the Cabal, could you provide some examples of who you consider in the Cabal?

Because the destabilizing hand you see over time, I view as a return to the Black Ops playbook (passed on by each generation 53 Iran, 73 Chile) in that if it keeps working then keep using it.

LL

So you think that Russia should have nuclear missiles - including tactical ones that NATO doesn't have anymore- but Poland for example should not have even a missile anti-missile.
Your double standards are clear.

About the whole post is the typical of people that want to feel safe to think there are some ruler that can control. Even if evil. People fear chaos more.

Conspiracies are for people of today the Deities of the Past. Most of them made on ignorance, lazyness and Marxist cultural values even if they ae now so cultured that people don't recognize them.

Maybe the best question to ask is why the conspiracy is always centered in a America?

Origin

I already have. See my post 19 November 02:27 PM above. Also Listen to the Kissinger talk and see how many times he alludes to something like "We need to do this or that." What he means is "we, the decider members," need to stoke or damp some fire by action. In using the "we", he is referring to his specific people, not the generic "we" of the Americas in general. If you really want to know who the members of the Cabal are, ask him. Kissinger laments in his talk about how team member substitutions hurt play when new players are brought in during team swaps.

Fred

VV,

Here's a billionaire connection to the MiddleEast now resident in NYC.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/carlos-slims-late-wife-was-a-member-of-the-leading-lebanese-warlord-clan/

Ingolf


Origin,

I'm with the Colonel (and others); "simple incompetence and blindness to reality" provide an adequate explanation.

That's not to deny there are plenty of people and groups desperately fighting over power in the US. The vested interests, of course, including all those who occupy the headquarters and many outposts of "empire", or who profit from its workings. Understandably, they fiercely resist any diminishment, much less dismantling of their hard acquired privileges. As of course do Americans erstwhile "allies".

And then there's the hard-core ideologues America seems uniquely cursed with who see the vast accumulated machinery of state as tools to express their pet schemes. Neoconservatives and liberal interventionists have to a surprising degree seized, and hold onto, the levers of power. As with any Jacobin movement, their intensity of desire and determination act like force multipliers and so their influence is wholly out of proportion to their numbers.

The US is on the road to failure but the cracks are still comparatively subtle and capable of being ignored. Any sense of unease and frustration is more likely to express itself in anger than self examination. No surprise, really. Who isn't reluctant to give up on long cherished notions of oneself, or of one's country? The longer they have been held, and a more complimentary they are, the harder it's going to be. America scores 10/10 on both counts.

So, that's the background as I see it.

You seem to view the "strategy" pursued by your cabal/borg as successful (e.g. "The strategy has been applied too often and with too much success to simply be the result of incompetence or chance").

Your conception of success seems to me a peculiar one. By the time the Soviet Union imploded, the US had swept the table. It was rich, respected, loved even, and not just the sole remaining superpower but a hyperpower. Its wish was in effect much of the world's command. And this despite the monumental cockups of Vietnam and the sequence of policies that eventually led to the Iranian revolution. Am I right, by the way, in concluding you wouldn't claim these as willed successes?.

And as for all the clever flailing about "creating chaos" over the last 25 years, has that helped America one whit? Quite the contrary, it seems to me. The cost, in money, in lives lost and wrecked, in reputation (dear God, in reputation) and the transformation of the land of the free into a sort of garrison state hardly bears thinking about. Then there's all those on the receiving end of its efforts. Has any nation has ever squandered, so quickly and so fruitlessly, such a unique inheritance? And even now, it hasn't pulled out of its dive.

So where's this success? Yes, many who profit by war have done well, at least viewed from a short-term perspective. Some of the strivers, chisellers and true believers who between them seem to largely steer the ship of state nowadays have done well from a personal career perspective. History is unlikely to be kind to them, but then that's probably not a perspective they much care about. Undoubtedly, too, decent chunks of the world are indeed in chaos but I fail to see how this is in the US' best interests, even narrowly defined. Instead, America's wishes today are far more likely to generate suspicion and resistance than they are compliance. Countervailing coalitions are not only being born but growing in strength by the day, all united by a desire to escape from US fiat.

You really think all that was part of the "plan"?

In your reply to the Colonel (1:57 PM on 20 November), you wrote, after noting that the Cabal isn't made up of "stupid people": "It is inconceivable to me that what they do, year after year is thoughtless or based in incompetence . . . ".

I wonder if that conclusion isn't the key premise that ultimately gave rise to your thesis by a process of retrospective rationalisation. In my view, intelligence is not correlated with wisdom; indeed sometimes I wonder if it's the opposite. Intelligence can help an already wise man achieve more, but I suspect that's about it.

YT

I reiterate: "wenches."

rjj

wrong.

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