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08 August 2015

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Fred

Alba etie,

Bernie just got silenced in Seattle by "Black Lives Matter". If he can't handle a handful of new black panther activists mau mauing his even how is he going to handle any foreign government?

Ulenspiegel

Then you could anser the two following questions:

1) Why had the German deligation so many members?

2) Why did S. Gabriel come?

Could it be that you do not understand some important facettes of the affair?

Babak Makkinejad

France had failed in achieving her goals in Syria and also against Iran; Fabius was there to show the flag and initiate a process of dialogue on certain issues.

You are right, he at least had the presence of mind not to issue demands - unlike the Germans.

Babak Makkinejad

The practical-minded Germans with former business connections with Iran went along to see if they can revive their former positions and meet with their former partners.

Future would tell.

But Iranian market is rather small for Germany and a permanent loss of it is irrelevant to the overall German economic health and prosperity.

Cee

Croesus,

Well said. I put nothing past Netanyahu and the true believers or the blackmailed in the US to go along.

Cee

Fred,

He was right to walk away from those paid clowns. I'd just like to know who is writing the check.

Cee

All,

For once I would support a coup to remove a lunatic driving the Hell Bound Train.

I hope people step up.

Ami Ayalon, a former head of Shin Bet, the Israeli internal security service, and a former chief of the Israeli Navy. Even as he explained that the issue “is not black and white,” he reeled off a list of former defense ministers and chiefs of Shin Bet and Mossad who agree with him that “when it comes to Iran's nuclear capability, this [deal] is the best option.”

PeterHug

Iran's restraint regarding these assassinations has IMO been quite amazing.

I do not in any way advocate tit-for-tat escalations, but I have to say I'm a bit surprised the IRGC didn't retaliate by killing some randomly selected Israeli scientists (of whatever specialty) at a foreign conference the first time it happened.

If the Israelis honestly go in for this again, I do expect that eventually that retaliatory attacks will begin to take place.

PeterHug

He had a perfectly great event a few hours later with >15,000 people in attendance.

He wasn't shut down, he just chose not to speak at that venue when BLM wouldn't give him the floor.

Bernie is handling BLM quite well, thank you. And he will handle anything he ends up with after he beats Hillary, and then wins the General Election.

Cee

I had to go to find this old article. Don't say we wouldn't be attacked again and this time by Israeli backed Al-Nusra so they will have their way on the Iran deal.


The risk of empowering an al Qaida affiliate is a small price to pay for Nusra’s contributions on the battlefield, said Jeffrey White, a former senior Defense Intelligence Agency analyst who’s now with the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, a think tank.

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2014/10/israel-lobby-supports-jabhat-al-nusra-insurgents-in-aleppo-surrounded.html

Fred

Peter,

Sure he did; if you by that you mean he did not give BLM a wider TV audience by having them arrested. I'm certain to the folks whose opinions don't matter where happy to have waited an hour+ for a no show. Maybe they were happy rushing across town to try for round two, which is great for people with nothing else to do on a Saturday in Seattle, like maybe work for a living. What was his campaign message again? Oh, yeah that didn't make the news, but being "Speechless in Seattle" did.

Ulenspiegel

You miss the point. Even if you interpretation of S. Gabriel's speech is correct - I have not found a German version yet, the message the German government send to Iran, Israel and USA is quite interesting.

The Irainian market is quite small for Germany and will be small in the next years, so why did the German government sent their Vice Chancellor (that is the number 2) and a very strong deligation for a routine meeting which was set long time ago to Iran?

If there was an intention on the German side to please Israel or USA they would have sent a small deligation headed by a medium ranked official from the Ministry for Industry.

Cee

Update: the nut who infiltrated Black Lives Matter who interrupted Bernie Sanders had been a Palin supporter and made the comment that she should have been groomed by the GOP.

Yes, he was right to ignore her.

Petrous

Thanks for refrencing this superb article. It us a must read.

turcopolier

Cee

How is your back these days? I think it is an open question whether Sanders' campaign is being attacked by disruptors who are targeted at him by his opponents in one or both parties. pl

Johnny Reims

The Donald and Bibi are very good friends. Just google the two names.

And, for your consideration, here is what the Donald "tweeted" today about the Iran deal:

The #IranDeal is a catastrophe that must be stopped. Will lead to at least partial world destruction & make Iran a force like never before.


Fred

cee,

The "nut" who infiltrated BLM? Right. They have an application process and managerial approval requirement? So much for being a social movement. This type of conduct is typical at lots of public rallies in every election. Leaving a few thousand stranded while a pair of who knows what gets their message across while yours doesn't won't get one elected.

William R. Cumming

YUP!

Seamus Padraig

Chuck Shomer, Senator for Israel.

Babak Makkinejad

"... make Iran a force like never before."

O, Dear Lord!

Will mine tired old eyes again behold the visage of the Great King as his decrees are carried out from Oxus to the Nile and from the Caspian to the Red seas?

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