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01 August 2015

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confusedponderer

gemini33,
just to be pointed: Irrespective of US law and legal bases - under international there is no case whatsoever to me made that the US or Turkey have any right to impose a no fly zone over part of Syrian teritory.

There is no UN mandate like the one for Libya which the US and her allies way exceeded when they started an actual close air support campaign for rebels on the ground, whithout which the rebels would have never won.

Syria has not attacked the US or Turkey or Israel, so neither country can claim to act in self-defence. It is, by proxy, very much the other way around, and under the Nicaragua precedent all of this conduct by the US, Turkey, the Gulfies and the Israelis is pretty clearly illegal.

http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/?sum=367&p1=3&p2=3&case=70&p3=5

Like it or not, Syria is still a sovereign country, even though by now such a weak one that it must endure such encroachments and routinely object (they have to, in order to prevent setting precedent by appearance of toleration).

Given that context, and the fact that the UN charter, which mandates non-aggression amongst UN member states, is as a ratified treaty law of the land in the US (since July 28, 1945 to be exact), I find that the musings about what exactly is the domestic legal basis for America's violations of international law falls somewhat short of what decent respect to the opinions of mankind would suggest.

But then I may be quaint.

Ulenspiegel

CP,

what is the number of immigrants we need in Europe?

Or from a more German POV: The issue are not the number of genuine
asylum seekers from MENA but the high number of asylum seekers from save Balkan countries, i.e. the low likelyhood of successful application.

OTOH we have in Germany an economic demand for at least 300000 immigrants per year.

The issue in Germany are IMHO not the number of immigrants but the flaws of the German system. A more fexible and pragmatic approach would reduce the number of asylum seekers by 80%, thisi with lower costs.

I live in an Austrian city in a neighbourhood with many former Yogoslavian citizen, they came around 1990 and their kids are perfectly integrated.

Ulenspiegel

Sorry, you are talking nonsense. I live in Austria in a neighbourhood with many former Yuggoslavian citizens from today Serbia, Croatia and Bosnia Herzogovina, they integrated very well and their kids are perfectly integrated, I bet Serbs even have a higher percentage tertiary education than the native population.

Colleagues from Sweden and Norway, some are immigrants from the Balkan states are not that unhappy with the performance of the former Yogoslavian citizens. :-)

Ursa Maior

On the surface maybe.

Try to have a bit more than serious quarrel with them.

You will be REALLY surprised!

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