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19 August 2015

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Joe100

Patrick -

I was impressed by the "crowd sourcing" analysis of the Ghouta incident at http://whoghouta.blogspot.se. This appears to have been a thorough treatment - including much debate on the govt vs. insurgent responsibility question. I am curious what you and any of the other intelligence professionals think of the quality of this work and it's conclusions. And also whether this kind of process (competently and honestly executed) might offer an opportunity to address similar future situations where feeding better quality information into a potentially dangerous situation- like deciding to go war with someone, might help avert bad outcomes?

Imagine

The Syria attack of '13 occurred conveniently on a day the U.N. chemical inspectors were scheduled to arrive. It was exacerbated by a media-savvy team of ghouls who moved decomposing bodies of a squad of killed hostages, including children, around to a couple different locations, staged them as a "gas massacre", and then took pictures from several angles.

https://urs1798.wordpress.com/2013/08/28/giftgas-un-untersuchung-die-douma-kuhlhauspropagandistin-ist-wieder-da-bekannt-fur-durchgeschnittene-kehlen-douma-damascus-syria/
http://acloserlookonsyria.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Talk:Alleged_Chemical_Attack,_August_21,_2013
http://tarpley.net/docs/20130915-ISTeams-Ghouta-Report.pdf
short summary: http://www.activistpost.com/2013/09/syria-chemical-weapons-victims-were.html

Patrick Bahzad

Thx for the link Joe. Had followed up on that blog, and others, for a while in 2013.
As a general rule, first thing to know about a blog is who publishes/administers it, for what purpose and, possibly, on whose request.
If the answers to those questions are satisfying, like in the case of SST for example, it's much easier to get a clear picture what a blog is actually worth.
The general advantage of blogs such as the one you mention, is that they provide for the publication of intel and info that might be kept away from the public otherwise.

FkDahl

This attack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_V0fIf3MKU&oref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D1_V0fIf3MKU&has_verified=1 received zero media coverage, quite remarkable given that it looks (my guess!) like a mustard gas attack and the location is not far from Israel. Daily Mail headline could have read " Al Qaeda terrorists slaughtering Syrian soldiers on the border of Israel!".

Eh bien.

BTW, a few weeks ago there was a theft of explosives near Marseille, and soon thereafter an explosion in a factory ... did that ever get resolved? http://www.lemonde.fr/police-justice/article/2015/07/07/vols-d-explosifs-et-de-detonateurs-sur-un-site-militaire_4673533_1653578.html

FkDahl

This attack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_V0fIf3MKU&oref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D1_V0fIf3MKU&has_verified=1 received zero media coverage, quite remarkable given that it looks (my guess!) like a mustard gas attack and the location is not far from Israel. Daily Mail could have read " Al Qaeda terrorists slaughtering Syrian soldiers on the border of Israel!".

Eh bien.
BTW, a few weeks ago there was a theft of explosives near Marseille, and soon thereafter an explosion in a factory ... did that ever get resolved?

Seamus Padraig

I long ago came to the conclusion that this was a false-flag attack. Seymour Hersh did a good wright-up on it: http://www.lrb.co.uk/v35/n24/seymour-m-hersh/whose-sarin

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