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10 July 2015

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Tyler

Stephanie,

The fact that they're even talking about is grotesque. Shades of digging up Cromwell to quarter and hang him after his death.

Tyler

GCP,

1) Looking at how complex we are proves the existence of God to me.

2)"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

You should work on that tan so you can begin your life as a proud black man. Your mental capacity is on par with TNC - I see a long career at the Atlantic for you.

Tyler

no one,

Of course that's what he means. He gets openly aroused by the idea of federal mandarins enforcing progressive ideology.

He's like every other petty tyrant out there - its about power over his fellow man. All the rest of his "compassion" is just a vehicle for him to ride around on a moral high horse.

Tyler

BostonB,

The UN has decided Europeans don't have rights. Its why the rest of the world has a right to "migrate" (i.e. colonize) white countries, but whites have no rights to migrate to Africa/Asia en masse.

GulfCoastPirate

Colonel,

Why the argumentative style? You know as well as I do that if social mores or cultural values in a given area by any group of people (political opponents or not) result in laws being passed that attempt to restrict rights guaranteed by the constitution to all then those laws are unconstitutional and unenforceable. That's all I'm saying - nothing more and nothing less. The problem is the right wing in this country doesn't like the fact that various groups have used the courts to guarantee the rights provided to them in the constitution.

GulfCoastPirate

I've never once said anything about my side (as opposed to your side or any side) being able to do anything unconstitutional to others in terms of rights.

Who is they? I'm not sure what you are referring to but your free speech rights doesn't guarantee your speech need be agreed to by all. If someone who owns a sports team says something and others disagree you can't force them to continue to support the sports team.

Is 2A second amendment? I'm not sure I've ever said anything about it. All I would tell you is if some groups gets a law passed that you feel takes away your rights then go to the courts. That's why they're there.

GulfCoastPirate

Who are you to tell anyone to move anywhere?

GulfCoastPirate

Tyler wrote: 'Looking at how complex we are proves the existence of God to me.'

So the answer is no, you can't prove the existence of your or any other 'god'.

Then Tyler wrote: '
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

First of all that's from the DOI and not the constitution. Second, they expressly used the word 'creator' and not 'god'. That's because most of the signers were deists who didn't believe in your version of 'god'. Had they believed they would have used the word 'god'. They didn't.

turcopolier

GCP

You are allowed here so that I can argue with you. pl

Fred

GCP,

Well the fine folks at National Action Network and General Motors (Bailed out motors) disagree:
http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/general-motors/2015/07/14/kid-rock-gm-protest/30138003/

I think Kid Rock is right, they should go kiss his a*$. Meanwhile Rev. Charles Williams II, president of the Michigan Chapter of the National Action (That's the Al Sharpton shake down outfit) has made no public efforts that I've seen in getting the people who witnessed multiple shootings in Detroit to assist the Black police chief in solving the crime, which includes murder of multiple black men.
http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2015/06/29/shootings-weekend-detroit/29477615/

rjj

TYLER - there is no open thread, and as this thread is about history, its suppression, and its myriad versions. am putting the following link here because you (and J) might at the very least find the archive footage interesting.

http://www.dailymotion.com/playlist/x1b003_alexeykh_russians-deprived-of-russia/1#video=xd4pun

It is about the anti-bolshevik Russians' escape via Crimea and diaspora after their Civil War.

Perhaps it has been widely seen here. Perhaps not.

GulfCoastPirate

Works for me. :)


GulfCoastPirate

I think Kid Rock is correct also. I think some of you guys are conflating pressure to conform with laws passed abrogating rights which turn out to be unconstitutional. The two aren't the same thing.

Now, GM, that's a different story. I suppose they have to balance how many additional cars they can sell to Kid Rock fans with how many sales they lose to those who don't like him using that flag. I have no problem with pressure brought to bear on public corporations. No one should be able to force anyone to do business with people who make them feel unwelcome.

KR is a good guy. From what I have read he's spent a lot of money he's made helping his fellow citizens in Michigan. Plus, he has good taste in women (politics aside).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKFx0MMqb48

optimax

The msm harps on the lie that blacks are continually harassed and endangered by racists whites by portraying white and black crime as endemic and ignoring the more frequent black on white incidents. The following report, if reversed, would be considered a hate crime and spotlighted on the news.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/another-black-mob-attacks-white-family-not-a-hate-crime.html

Thomas Sowell says about the Emanuele Church shooting:

"The black parishioners who expressed forgiveness toward the killer did more than most of us could do, and the whites who responded with solidarity did their part. Note how quickly this was done, by ordinary people of good will — black and white — without the “help” of racial activists like Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson.

Professional race hustlers have no incentive to see our current civil war end. They see in this shooting only an opportunity to escalate their demands."

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/07/thomas-sowell/is-the-civil-war-over/

no one

GPC, It's a good thing legislatures and courts are never political.

Also a good thing that the idea of "The Borg" is pure paranoid fantasy.

Because you'd be full of BS if it were so.

Fred

GCP,

The important question is why wasn't the good reverend, his boss Al Sharpton and fellow preacher Jesse Jackson not demanding action by the Attorney General when WallStreet and company's predatory lending schemes destroyed black home ownership in the US? Well, at least they got that flag down in Charleston. Which rights the law that required it fly on the capital grounds you can fill me in on, since no demand was made that the flag being there was abridging anyone's rights and only became a demand after a mentally ill drug user killed 9 people in a church.

Tyler

GCP,

I see your masochism isn't limited to your ethnicity.

Tyler

RJJ,

There are themes there. I see it in the Rhodesians and Afrikaaners I know in New Zealand.

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