(The Death of Mathieu de Clermont, Grand Master of the Hospitallers on the walls of Acre -1291. For those who do not know, Acre was the last Christian city in the Levant to fall to the Muslims, in this case Mamelukes from Egypt))
"... the people of the region must change their political culture to succeed. Long-term success must come from the people, he added, because much of the appeal of extremist groups would evaporate if government is seen as representing all aspects of a country fairly.
Given this, the general said, “the role the United States military is taking against a transregional threat of ISIL represents, in my judgment, an appropriate level of effort.” defense.gov
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Well, Martin, the people of the region are changing their political culture. They are reverting to the medieval pattern of faith and strongmen as the arbiters of history. They are shaking off the bonds imposed by ecumenical empires (Ottoman, European, etc) of various kinds and reverting to what lies close to their hearts. We don't like it? What is the alternative?
I listened to this testimony today. It was before the HASC and this Pentagon blurb does not capture the true import.
Dempsey went on about the nine aspects of THE POLICY, or was it nineteen or maybe twenty-nine? This is frightening because it betrays the existence of a policy deliberation in which logic and knowledge were tortured to death in the interest of interagency consensus. Whenever that happens the result is something like a giraffe. That would be a donkey designed by a large committee.
Mr. Carter expressed grave doubts about the outcome in Iraq. This opinion must be the result of the counsel he is receiving from: Pollack, Kagan and O'Hanlon. (His ME advisers) He took note of the fact that few trainees of any kind are showing up for training in the US training bases. He thinks that is a bad sign.
When pressed Dempsey said that if the Iraq government collapses we (the US Armed Forces) will fight on from our "network" of Hedgehogs assisting whoever wants help and without regard to the wishes of "the government."
I guess he never heard of besieged fortresses, dababat (SVBIEDs or battering rams), or Dien Bien Phu. Ah, I forgot. That was the French... That would never happen to us. pl
I'm not surprised that the same country that believes Bruce Jenner is a man can't see the writing on the wall in the MENA but instead believes in unicorns like the hedgehog idea.
Posted by: Tyler | 17 June 2015 at 09:18 PM
Though I have criticized Robert Kaplan in an earlier post, he has an interesting comment in this month's Atlantic that relates closely to this thread http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/06/the-art-of-avoiding-war/392060/
Posted by: Origin | 17 June 2015 at 09:59 PM
Tyler -- Did you mean, the same country that believes Bruce Jenner is a woman?
Posted by: Larry Kart | 17 June 2015 at 11:42 PM
It would seem that the Obama administration has four options. The first is to continue the current strategy of "make believe." Its elements are a fantasy Iraqi government army, fantasy allies and a quasi-fantasy air campaign. At heart it is little more than wishful thinking. Tony Blinken killed off 10,000 ISILs with one lash of his tongue last week. So, we could schedule 3 - 5 press conferences, multiply the verbal results by 10,000, and have the boys & girls home by Christmas.
Second, deploy 150,000 American troops for the next decade or so - out of the question.
Third, get serious in using what you have: collaborate with the Shi'ite militias/Iran, put the arm on the KSA, Turkey, et al to quit supporting ISIl directly or indirectly and cough up some ground troops (even for use as cannon fodder), use air power more intelligently (at least don't delay striking targets for an hour or more while awaiting permission from Washington, Tampa or God knows where).
Fourth, admit that all of the above have less than a 50/50 chance of working. Especially so, since we have singularly inept leadership in charge. So, put a cap on American involvement - forget about lily-pads, surreptitious insertion of Americans into the front lines, etc. If a few competent Iraqi Army units emerge, let them bleed ISIL as best they can. Give maximum support to the Shi'ite militias, and the Peshmerga. Leave them unimpeded to fight ISIL as long as they wish, wherever they wish within the old Iraq borders. At least, that will exhaust ISIL. If the KAS et al are unhappy about this, let them deal with it. It's not our concern. If ISIl and al-Nusra topple Assad, accept that those two will fight a civil war to take power. They would exhaust each other further. If the KSA and Jordan want to fight with al-Nusra, let them - the effect would be sobering for all parties. If ISIL comes out on top in Syria, they may threaten Jordan and ultimately Saudi Arabia. By that time, ISIL will be so exhausted that its chances of success in taking either the Holy places or the oil fields probably is slight. This is not the 7th century.
In the mean time, the United States would cease creating further complications and pitfalls for itself in the region. It also would be in a better position to devote some time and money to dealing with more compelling concerns at home and abroad. Perhaps we might even be able to afford bringing Amtrak up to 1940 standards.
Posted by: mbrenner | 17 June 2015 at 11:58 PM
mbrenner
Thanks. I was gonna write something like that but you saved me the trouble. I think I will go to R.T's tomorrow for some She Crab Soup and then Crab Etouffee. pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 18 June 2015 at 12:06 AM
sir,
about the Saudi-Yemeni situation .
Watched a video of Yemenis attacking Saudi border post and a Armour unit. Saudis did not seems to have a quick air response. And despite claims of "stooping Yemeni offensives", it looked like a hit-and-run attack. Yemenis numbered in few dozen and were light equipped (not carrying any provisions).
They took out two border posts and attacked three armored vehicles and destroyed one ( LAV III or Mowag Piranha). Other vehicles simply "strategically re-deployed" to a rear area.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuqdsYT5rFqw0L5oO_HwvgA
Posted by: Aka | 18 June 2015 at 02:11 AM
I'd be appreciative if someone could explain this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3SPDwW2qCk
Previously, ISIS had released videos of executions, but this appears to be city/tribal leadership passing formal judgement upon a captured Iraqi soldier. Is this a new tactic to provide legitimacy, reinforce the divide with the Shia regime? Does the content present an equal partnership, or are they swearing allegience to ISIS?
Posted by: question | 18 June 2015 at 02:11 AM
mbrenner -
I guess I don't understand how we've managed to get ourselves involved in both sides of a war (once removed from the Iraqi side, twice removed from the ISIL side). I can't see any sane reason for it, whatever the outcome we're worse off. It not only doesn't work in practice, it doesn't work in theory.
Posted by: HankP | 18 June 2015 at 03:41 AM
I would think that winning the Olympic men's decathlon gold medal, and siring six children by three women, would strongly suggest that he is a man. But what do I know? Modern science is wonderful, and modern cultural beliefs even more wonderful.
Posted by: Tom Welsh | 18 June 2015 at 08:23 AM
Your remarks are perfectly understandable, HankP, from a normal sane person's point of view.
But consider the military-industrial-congressional complex. Like the carnivorous plant in "The Little Shop of Horrors", its continual cry is "Feed Me!" What better prospect, from the MICC's perspective, than a perpetual war (or, better still, set of wars) in which it supplies both sides - and (a critical point this) is PAID to do so by the US taxpayer?
If you stop thinking of these wars as wars, and see them as an elaborate mechanism for transferring vast sums of money from poor Americans to rich Americans, it makes better sense.
Posted by: Tom Welsh | 18 June 2015 at 08:27 AM
Thanks for the LINK!
Posted by: William R. Cumming | 18 June 2015 at 09:18 AM
Is my understanding that Yemen's population outnumbers SA?
Posted by: William R. Cumming | 18 June 2015 at 09:20 AM
Colonel,
That would be R.T.'s in Alexandria?
Off topic, but former Israeli ambassador to the U.S. Michael Oren recently wrote a strong criticism of the Obama administration, accusing it of 'abandoning' Israel. Of course this is the same admnistration that has protected Israel in the UN for the past 6 years and has provided diplomatic cover on other issues. He is presently shilling for his new book. This is the same Oren who wrote a book on the attack on the USS LIBERTY that omitted facts and skewed other facts to the benefit of Israel.
http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.661654
Posted by: oofda | 18 June 2015 at 09:23 AM
P.L.! Thanks for this interesting post. First I need a history lesson! Was it in 1291 that Crusaders seized Acre and in doing so also massacred Christians, Jews and Muslims?
And after occupation by the Crusaders when finally drawn out of Acre by Saladin he defeated them in the desert?
Saladin was a KURD?
Posted by: William R. Cumming | 18 June 2015 at 09:24 AM
How much of US FP and military strategy is based somehow on the concept that we must own the realty involved?
Posted by: William R. Cumming | 18 June 2015 at 09:26 AM
I think it was not just the Great King but also the Sassanid emperors who waged war intermittently against Scythians.
Some settled in the area called Sistan at the present time (derived from Sakistan - land of Saks) and some tribes moved on to the Eastern Europe; becoming ancestors of some among the Polish Nobility.
Posted by: Babak Makkinejad | 18 June 2015 at 09:31 AM
On your #3 - very unlikely.
You saw the reaction of Patrick Bahzad - he loathers Iranians and I suppose the Shia as well and he is not even a principal and many such as him must be around in US and EU.
Posted by: Babak Makkinejad | 18 June 2015 at 09:33 AM
WRC
Jerusalem fell to the army of the first crusade in 1098. Acre, the last city in Palestine still in Christian hands fell to the mamelukes (Egyptian slave soldiers) in 1291. You don't actually know anything about the crusader states. Like most people you have absorbed a lot of anti-colonial crap that falsely conflates the crusades and crusader states with 19th Century colonialism. All that business about the crusaders killing everyone is baloney. Try reading something worthwhile. Try Runciman's three volume history. pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 18 June 2015 at 09:39 AM
Dear Colonel et al.,
I am having trouble these days really understanding what is in the US (not Israel, not Saudi) interest in the ME. Okay, stability, but I do not see any of the major local actors moving in that direction (maybe Egypt, unless they try and further destabilize Libya?). For some while into the future, we do not need their oil.
Sure if the policy du jour is to defeat ISIL in Iraq (but support it in Syria), a 29 point policy can be created, but then one asks the question - why is this worth American blood and treasure (as we continue losing fast to China)?
Posted by: ISL | 18 June 2015 at 10:09 AM
mbrenner
What makes you think ISIL will become exhausted.
How long did the Lebanese Civil War last. Is it not
one or two events from reigniting. IMO until the local
population quits feeding the beast it will continue.
From millions of recruits and martyrs at hand and the
Wests constant meddling to encourage them the
end will be ........?
Posted by: SteveG | 18 June 2015 at 10:33 AM
Tom Welsh -- About Jenner's past, of course. But I thought that Tyler's "I'm not surprised that the same country that believes Bruce Jenner is a man can't see the writing on the wall in the MENA but instead believes in unicorns like the hedgehog idea" remark was sarcastic, and that, if so, what he meant to say, since he was speaking of a self-deluded country, was "woman" instead of "man." Or did Tyler's sentence have one too many "nots" in it? "I'm surprised that the same country that believes Bruce Jenner is a man etc." would make sense.
Posted by: Larry Kart | 18 June 2015 at 10:48 AM
"The people of the region must change their political culture to succeed." Does that apply to inner city Baltimore, Chicago and everywhere else that poor black Americans live? How about poor whites and Hispanics?
Posted by: Fred | 18 June 2015 at 10:59 AM
sir,
what does that matter?
Posted by: Aka | 18 June 2015 at 11:17 AM
I think in some areas political culture has progressed - Iran & Turkey - and other places - such as Afghanistan, Mesopotamia and Levant it has regressed.
I am not sure about Pakistan but my guess would be there it has regressed too.
Posted by: Babak Makkinejad | 18 June 2015 at 11:46 AM
As usual, an excellent summation of the current situation, and the options available to the Obama administration. IF it is trying to advance US national interests in the ME.
But what if the aims are different, or muddled, or multiple and conflicting. Tom Welsh's comment above (in response to HankP) presents a valid hypothesis of one such motivation. Then there are the neocons, the Israeli lobby, the R2Ps, etc. Everyone pushing their own agenda, quite unconcerned about the interests of "the country".
Meanwhile, China pushes on with its 20-30 year plan, slowly but surely advancing towards the day it will supplant the US as the one global power.
Posted by: FB Ali | 18 June 2015 at 11:49 AM