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10 March 2015

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jonst

I may be really blind about this...but I never grasped exactly WHAT I was supposed to fear on 9/11. Or the days after. Concern? Focus? Anger? Desire for revenge? Yes, understood, and shared, these reactions. But fear? Of what....of whom? But no doubt...fear was the reaction of the day....and it has never stopped. I still don't understand it fully...

anna-marina

Great article by Philip Giraldi, "Shutting Down AIPAC. Removing Israel from American politics." One can sense the deeply insulted feelings of the US citizen.
http://www.unz.com/article/shutting-down-aipac/
The word TREASON has become associated with Israel-firsters and their enablers in the US government.

FND

Yes, the fools did exactly what the 9/11 terrorists wanted them to do. First, they made preposterous statements that they hate us for our freedoms, then they passed the Orwellian Patriot Act and created the Department of Vaterland Security.

ISL

Adam, Thank you for your thoughts, they clarify a trend.

Specifically, that of allergic reaction in the body politic, over-reacting to threats that are largely non-threatening ("its existential") which in health leads to succumbing to a real threat that is missed while reacting to a new flower pollen (antibiotics prevent us from seeing this in our graveyards these days). Contrasting Norway and the US, we can see a proper immuno-response to their (domestic terrorism) event. Israel is far further down the road, than the US, but it is the same road.

If will leave it to SST to continue the biological allegory, where Israel depends on the US to cover the costs of its allergies.

William R. Cumming

Great post and many thanks!

Jack

Mr. Silverman
You should look into the role played by Sheldon Adelson the Las Vegas casino billionaire. He is one of the "owners" of the GOP and owns media in Israel that is definitely pro-Likud. His wife is an Israeli citizen. He reportedly played a significant role in organizing Bibi's speech to Congress. He is a classic example of an Israeli Firster who couldn't care a damn about US interests

wisedupearly

People who are fearful are easier to cow into submission and people who are told to be fearful, who see their leaders/elites exhibiting fear, generally become fearful. This has not be a good demonstration of American exceptionalism.

Swami Bhut Jolokia

Good post, Adam.

anna-marina

Adelson is on a display as a benevolent distributor of his casino-money for the whoring politicians (see Gingrich). Adelson has no loyalty to the US: http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/billionaire-gingrich-backer-adelson-regrets-he-served-us-instead-israeli-military
But there is also the political class (Rahm Emmanuel) and fourth estate (David Brooks), which prefer the Israeli Army to the US Army: http://mondoweiss.net/2014/09/surprise-brookss-israeli

MRW

I wish I could remember the exact phrase, but a shrink once told the daughter of someone I knew socially that her mother's reactions were always in excess of the stimulus. He called it a classic definition of mental illness.

MRW

@Adam,

"It fails to recognize the even harder form of resistance, the attempt to remain free within one's self when there is no immediate opportunity for external/physical resistance. [...] It was to the perceived lack of this resistance among Americans that Netanyahu was playing and it demonstrates how little he thinks of his Congressional hosts, America's elected and appointed officials, and Americans in general. The only outstanding question is if we are going to prove him wrong."

Nicely put.

MRW

The Brits managed much better as a people when there were actual bombs raining down upon them than we did after 9/11. We were hyperbolic. Then we allowed the profits-driven press to milk it, something Hannity still does every night.

But then that fear was also crafted within 90 minutes EST of the first tower going down by Ehud Barak on BBC World Service, something I watched in real time that day. If you've never seen this clip, it's instructive. What was more stunning to me, and keep this in mind if you watch it, is that Ehud Barak's appearance had been promoted two hours before he went on; I remember calculating the time then as 9:30 AM EST, and wondered what an Israeli official would have to say about planes flying into buildings. No towers had descended at that time. BBC used Picture-in-Picture to show Barak cooling his heels in the Green Room as a sort of heads-up to what was coming in the following hour. So Barak's reaction in the clip below to the towers falling is curiously detached.

Later that night (BBC time) Richard Perle and Ehud Barak were given 90 minutes solo on some BBC show cementing the 'bin Laden did it' theme that was never questioned, and was formulated with no forensic evidence whatsoever. Further, the two of them were acting as if they, collectively, represented the US in some official capacity to make these accusations. I have a copy of that somewhere, and don't feel like searching for it online. I remember thinking at the time that Americans want to hear from their President, not these two assholes peddling a bin Laden theme. Little did I know at the time.
"Ehud Barak interview, BBC, 11:29, 9/11"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4Zj1fnGtjk

Bryn P

What I find difficult to comprehend is the willingness of so many of your Congressmen and Senators to betray their duty and responsibility to act in the interests of the people of the United States of America. Their unquestioning subservience to the leader of a foreign nation who came, in an insult to your president, to demand their total submission to the political will of his country filled me with contempt and disgust.

MRW

This is the BBC archived copy of the full show. It starts at Ehud Barak's part, but you go back to the beginning. Who the hell gave this guy the right to talk for Americans.
http://archive.org/details/bbc200109111121-1202?start=445

MRW

It is a great article.

MRW

As "b" at moonofalabama.org points out, from the land of "shared values" comes this:

"Liberman: Disloyal Arab-Israelis 'Should Be Beheaded'
Foreign Minister Avigdor Liberman advocated “cutting of the heads” of Arabs who were not loyal to Israel."
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/192309

THE LEDE: >

WTF?

MRW

Oops. I did something by using a double caret to set off the lede at 10 March 2015 at 02:38 PM.

Here it is:
"In a harsh comment Sunday, Foreign Minister Avigdor Liberman advocated “cutting of the heads” of Arabs who were not loyal to Israel. “Those who are with us deserve everything, but those who are against us deserve to have their heads chopped off with an axe,” Liberman said at an election event Sunday."

Now the WTF? makes sense. ;-)

Charles I

One may also recall the universal allure and critical facility of Casinos as money launderers.

Babak Makkinejad

Adam L. Silverman

3 years ago, in a discussion with LeaNder on this forum, I tried to explain the situation as I saw it then.

Just like the SS have been used as the alibi of Germany, and the NAZIS as the alibi of an entire continent (Romanian fellow: Germans made me do it.) I have very expectations that in case of US-Iran War for Israel and Western Jews to be blamed for the war after it has ended or has petered out.

This is what Israelis and their Jewish supporters are flirting with; the Jew once again reprising his role as the escape goat for a disastrous policy.

elkern

I will never forget (and maybe haven't entirely forgiven...) my own sister, saying that I should leave America because I objected to the invasion of Iraq. Wouldn't that qualify as an auto-immune response? (rejecting part of one's own body because it appears to be "other")

JerseyJeffersonian

Thank you, Mr. Silverman.

I would like to add something to your inclusion of the link to Osama Bin Laden's letter (...was what Bin Laden wanted). This is an article found in American Conservative written by Paul Schroeder back in October 2004 entitled, "The War Bin Laden Wanted". Although some references are a bit dated after the passage of 11 years, it still stands up to thoughtful consideration, particularly when read side by side with Bin Laden's letter.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-war-bin-laden-wanted/

It certainly appears that we have made all of the blunders - and in spades - against which Mr. Schroeder cautioned those years ago. Sobering, at least to those who believe in the value of reflection upon actions and events.

My respects to all.

JJ

Imagine

Also see CIA Philip Giraldi's excellent article on nuclear spy and Pretty Woman director Arnon Milchan:
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-hollywood-spy/

Imagine

"Victimization gives license for unlimited cruelty." Revenge 10x over on the Other is always justified in the minds of the sleepwalking hairless apes.

PTSD requires digesting horrific events so that the record needle becomes unstuck, and you no longer have to keep watching and reliving the horror movie in your mind. To Netanyahu, it is always 1938. He makes sure the rest of Israel, and the US, feel this way as well. Spending life time rewatching horror movies wastes precious opportunity cost; those who cannot escape and transcend the past are doomed to always relive it.

This is, of course, highly useful. Thus the regular Two Minutes Of Hate.

Imagine

Emerald's "The Power of T.E.D. [The Empowerment Dynamic]" discusses transcending the Karpman Drama Triangle of Victim / Persecutor / Rescuer-Hero by transforming it into its reflection, Creator / Challenger / Coach. The writing only gets a B but its ideas are AA++. Victims are Done To and cannot move. Creators are Doers and are always moving. (Virginia Satir also had a lifetime to cover this topic well.) (Note America is stuck in Hero mode, and so is cardboard just like the Victim.) If you are serious about helping Israel transcend its current role, I recommend you read this book.

SteveG

Babak
Are you equating all
Jews with Israelis and
Visa versa?

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