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24 February 2015


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to PL. Would it be more effective to run WP applicants thru a six month observation course run by sargents for character assessment/development prior to entering WP?



An excellent idea if it does not turn into a jock strappers process. pl


for the SST community, the distortions being put about should not be left to stand unanswered. You have the Col.'s reply. Disseminate the facts so we can better judge good reporters from frauds. Good newspapers from the bad.


As long as quick is preferred over good, there will be problems. It is not just in the media. As readers of these pages can see, it more widespread than that.

What to do about it, I do not know. Cultural change does not come easy, nor painlessly.

ex-PFC Chuck

Some years back I recall someone of note (don't recall who) suggesting that all appointments to the service academies should be made from the pool of current or former enlisted personnel who have served a minimum (2 years IIRC) on active duty. Thoughts?


You will then truly have the best and the brightest.



Isn't it how the German army used to (maybe still does?) select its officers?

FB Ali

Col Lang,

Well said!

Too few people in the US call the media on their misstatements. Hopefully, this will get CNN to be more careful in future.



I think the proposal once made here to close the Academies to undergraduates is still a good idea. Make them graduate level institutions instead. There are plenty of ROTC programs from which to draw junior officers as well as enlisted commissioning programs.


During my service I became a believer in the Warrant Officer as an effective leadership cadre. Is it time for a more diverse method of developing officers? I fully believe that it is. I believe the Navy could use that and draw the best of its enlisted sailors into a dynamic environment that maximizes their technical and leadership skills.


The hope to get mass media, especially broadcast TV, to improve their accuracy is more faint than a distant station in the olden days. Simply put, quality costs. And the corporations are all about low cost, even at the cost of low quality. After all, their biz case is infotainment for low-info consumers of mass mkt advertising. From misspellings to mispronunciations to misinformation... then there's ideological slanting ... the only thing they seem to really work hard on. It's all about pablum on the cheap. The only thing they pay for are "production values" and leggy blonds (not that there's anything wrong w/ THAT... what's remote volume control for, anyway?). They've closed bureaus all over the planet & depend on free-lancers to voice-over local (live from!) videos. When's the last time an important, really excellent news documentary was seen on network TV?

Bryn P

Good Lord, chaps, isn't it obvious that it has all gone downhill since we Brits could actually buy our commissions?

scott s.

The USN has traditionally relied on the LDO community for that. However, the LDO community is organized around technical skill-set. Traditionally the URL community has been a jack-of-all-trades. You might have a special or extra qualification in submarines or designated naval aviator, but you still are URL. (Some might say URL stands for unrestrained, but that's for another day).

Swami Bhut Jolokia

PL: this is off-topic but I hope you will write a brief note about this: http://www.bbc.com/news/31626875

Many on these threads, including me, have castigated Ms. Rice in the past. But on this matter she is speaking the truth.



I agree, She and BHO want to run the US foreign policy and Bibi is making a mighty effort to take control of it. pl


scott S

So what do warrant officers do in the navy. Two of my uncles were pre and during WW2 WOs. pl



I saw the film clip tonight of McDonald ands the homeless man. I'll bet you 100 bucks that man is not a former Green Beret. Two phonies. pl



I second Scott's comments below. The LDO and warrant officer programs in the Navy are available but with restrictions on advancement. You'll never reach flag rank as an LDO.

Bryn P

Given that Mossad disagrees with him over Iran seeking nuclear weapons, what intelligence is Bibi using and why would your Congress believe him?

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