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03 February 2015

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Cee

All,

Good Lord! Burned alive. The King said he would start killing the ISIS prisoners in mass. Begin now and anyone else who has been found to support ISIS in any way!

AEL

The argument against can be made in two words: Iraq, Libya.

These videos are *designed* to provoke a response.
I suggest that whatever action the west takes, it not be the obvious one that ISIS so clearly desires.

b

"I told Japanese TV a while back that I thought he might already be dead "

According to a some knowledgeable twitter folks with access in Raqqa the pilot and the Japanese journo were both killed on January 8.

This is IS strategy following the "managing the savagery" book.

Some people analyzing the IS strategy had expected something like this. There is an inherent need to escalate in this. (this was written before the killing was announced):
http://soufangroup.com/tsg-intelbrief-the-islamic-state-and-savagery/

/quote/
the Islamic State has tried to goad the international community into near-sighted reactions without long-term approaches by highlighting the barbarity of its executions of hostages
...
The Islamic State needs consistent replenishment of fear to overcome its inherently terrible local governance, and so it depends on shocking savagery to serve as both its recruitment magnet and opposition suppression
/endquote/

Cee

All

Who is giving the orders?

Know all of thy enemies!

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/un-report-israel-regular-contact-syrian-rebels-including-isis-616404

The Beaver

Colonel,

Jordanian sources told Sky News that authorities will execute 5 terror convicts including Rishawi "in the next few hours." - See more at:

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2015/Feb-03/286268-is-claims-to-have-burned-jordanian-pilot-alive-video.ashx#sthash.rAH2pwVz.dpuf

Matthew

"Tell me again what the argument is for not cooperating with the Syrian Arab Government in destroying this pestilence." pl

I ask the same question whenever I think of my wife's Christian relatives in Jordan. We have Assad in Damascus who allows Christians to worship freely and we trying to replace him with this Islamic Khmer Rouge. Mind blowing.

turcopolier

b

You have allowed and participated in vile insult directed toward me on your blog, "Moon of Alabama." You will apologize and remove all such or not be allowed here again. PL (AKA the Dotard)

Fred

Col.,

I believe King Abdullah is a direct descendent of the Prophet, unlike the self-proclaimed Caliph?

If our President had any sense (and sensible advisors) he would be telling the Ukrainian’s they are on their own in regards to weapons and send what was allegedly promised to them to the King instead.

Babak Makkinejad

In the cause of wounding Iran no action is extreme.

pob2

Exactly -- and sadly there are many who are all to easily provoked into unending rashness.

tv

Ah...the "religion of peace" once again heard from.

bth

Col. what is the reaction IS is trying to provoke? Fear? Mass retaliation? I don't understand the purpose to this action.

turcopolier

tv

The Jordanians are also Muslims. they will fight IS with "God is great" as a war cry. pl

turcopolier

bth

They are filled with a great sense of their own rectitude. they expect to have to fight over this and they consider the Hashemite government to be apostate. pl

The Beaver

Fred

Hachem ( thus the descendants are known as Hashemites) was the great- grand father of the Prophet

Re

A little off subject but might be interesting to some here.Dallas has recently allowed a Sharia tribunal to be established. http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2015/02/02/north-texas-home-to-first-islamic-tribunal-in-u-s/

MartinJ

I've seen a lot of stills from videos of IS executions of Syrians and Iraqis in recent months. (I can't stomach watching the videos of course). But when I see them throwing people of the roofs of buildings or cutting limbs off I am immediately reminded of the punishments meted out by Saddam's security forces. Rapists from Fedayeen Saddam were flung off buildings. In some cases twice if they survived. People who bad mouthed Saddam in a cafe were found, brought to the same cafe and 18 of them had their tongues sliced off in front of the cafe goers.

The brutal nature of Iraqis experience as citizens, their experience of the collapse of that authority, the humiliation of occupation, and finally the drunken mix of extreme Political Islam all play a part in this phenomenon that is IS.

I found Iraqis harsh people. I accept that in order to rule such people harsh measures were needed. But this harshness is now rampant and given religious credentials rather than simply nationalist "rule of law" underpinnings. It needs to end before it infects the rest of the Middle East.

MartinJ

I've seen a lot of stills from videos of IS executions of Syrians and Iraqis in recent months. (I can't stomach watching the videos of course). But when I see them throwing people of the roofs of buildings or cutting limbs off I am immediately reminded of the punishments meted out by Saddam's security forces. Rapists from Fedayeen Saddam were flung off buildings. In some cases twice if they survived. People who bad mouthed Saddam in a cafe were found, brought to the same cafe and 18 of them had their tongues sliced off in front of the cafe goers.

The brutal nature of Iraqis experience as citizens, their experience of the collapse of that authority, the humiliation of occupation, and finally the drunken mix of extreme Political Islam all play a part in this phenomenon that is IS.

I found Iraqis harsh people. I accept that in order to rule such people harsh measures were needed. But this harshness is now rampant and given religious credentials rather than simply nationalist "rule of law" underpinnings. It needs to end before it infects the rest of the Middle East.

different clue

I don't know enought to know if Jordan has capabilities to inflict direct violence on ISIS to earth-shattering levels.

I wonder if their intelligence community people have knowledge about ISIS's Erdogist and/or Saudi sponsors and connections that could have earth-shattering effects if either shared with forces having the direct-violence capabilities to act on it or exposed in a way highly destructive to the standing and stability of the Erdogists and/or the Saudis.

tv

The whole mess is enough to make my hair hurt - if I had hair.

tv

Colonel Lang:
Don't the Jordanians have the resources - men, armor, aircraft - to take ISIS (really a light infantry force) on?
Throw in the Kurds and lots of intelligence and logistics from the US and destruction of ISIS seems very possible.

mo

When you let slip the dogs of war you cannot complain when they bite you on the ass. Jordan was the staging ground for the destruction of Syria and is as responsible for ISIS as anyone. Sadly, the Hashemites will not end the family tradition of bowing to anyone who intends harm to the Arab people.

There are reports from Jordan coming through now that the pilots tribe and their allies are attacking police and other security positions.

Jstan

Yours is a standard answer. Reasonable and, in my opinion, correct. Most of the time. Not here. Not now. Not with them. Take them out now...all the way. And worry about the complications---and there will be many of them--later. I know they r baiting us. Take the bait. And let slip the dogs.......

João Carlos

Why I have the strange sensation that Israel's prime minister will persuade US congress to make war to Iran and not to IS? Ad while that, IS will prepare for take Saud Arabia...

tv

Sir:

I'd be interested in your opinion of this:

http://victorhanson.com/wordpress/?p=8176

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