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26 January 2015

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alba etie

Tyler
I just don't see where any police dept should own a Bear Cat assault vehicle . I further totally support our two best girl friends getting hitched last year in New England - they have been a couple thirty plus years . Finally I particularly can't see supporting neo Nazi's in the Russian Near Abroad . We shall see , ..

alba etie

Babak Makkinejad ,
I agree , we have no true strategic interest in mucking around in Russia's Near Abroad.

The Twisted Genius

Tyler,

I hope things have reversed, too. Hard to believe things got so bad. Mortars were worshipped in the 25th Division back in the hollow Army days. The rifle company mortar sections had 3 81mm tubes, gamma goat carriers and organic forward observers. The FDC had 2 M-16 plotting boards. Our quarterly mortar qualifications were two days of intense live fire which were always of extreme interest to Division leadership. The goal was perfection and the competition was fierce. During our annual month on the "Big Island," we fired deuce and a half after deuce and a half of ammo.

During one company live fire, my section fired what essentially was a 20 minute FPF with illumination. We cooled the tubes by pouring water on them. We dwarfed the fire of a 105 battery and left the artillery battalion commander in awe. We ended up burning out one tube. The Division Commander said no report of survey will be done. That tube burnt out doing what it was supposed to be doing. He said it was well worth what he just witnessed. Those were good days.

The Twisted Genius

crf,

Beyond the symbolic importance of the airport, it was high ground overlooking Donetsk. The Ukies were directing fire on the neighborhoods from the control tower when it was standing. If the rebels do no more than push the Ukies back far enough to stop the shelling of the cities, it would be a huge success.

Dubhaltach

In reply to Fred 27 January 2015 at 12:10 PM

Agree completely.

Dubhaltach

confusedponderer

The shelling of the cities, i.e. the deliberate and persistent breach of the ceasefire by Ukie forces, is one of the consistently underreported facts about the ongoing conflict in Ukraine.

In Israel, anything Syrians must only look crosseyed at the Izzies and they retaliate against the Syrian army irrespective of the latters involvement or responsibility.

In Ukraine, the Ukies shell Donetzk and other cities daily for a couple months in violation of the ceasefire and when the Federalists do something about it, like by taking the airport to flush out Ukie artillery observers, it is sign of nothing else but Russian aggression and Putin's Russian imperialism.

Because the West is on the side of the angels.

If only they weren't pandering their righteous protection racket so much. But what a deal:

If you're with the US, you can breach ceasefires, kill civilians, perhaps shoot down airliners, lie as if there was no tomorrow (irrespective of plaussibility) and they will root for you anyway!

The US will veto for you, sanction your enemies, apologise for you, block criticism! You will get arms, training and equipment for free! As long only as you oppose Russia (or whatever else enemy de jour) and sumbit yourself to US policy everything goes!

Nazi? Schmazi! They are Ukrainian patriots now, even with swastika tattoos. They're just superstitious and want to improve your odds by wearing the Hindu symbol of auspiciousness!

They're not even Nazis even if they have a Glatze and call them damn moskals vermin that must be exterminated and make their folksy nightly torch marches with their yellow Wolfsangel flags.

Given the chance, they'd probably redefine Hannibal Lecter as a carnivore. As long as he only eats Russians ...

Thus is the US and western monopoly of interpreation.

With current US Ukraine policy statements, Orwell would have a field day.

That said, he'd have one with Russian statements also, but then, with them being the bad guys, they're supposedly supposed to lie, or are they?

Piotr

It's your own (American) right to do so, and nobody can stop you if you really want to isolate US from the rest of the world
But do you remember how such isolation finished last time?
Have you heard about S/S Lusitania and Pearl Harbour? (rhetoric question :-) )

It's always cheaper to destroy enemy ships during their building in shipyards, than fighting them on your country's waters,isn't it?
And the basical geopolitical idea for US safety was always to prevent anybody from building the fleet big enough to land on US coasts.
Times changed, ships are replaced by rockets, but the basical idea is the same. How do you think isolated US can prevent it better or worse?

jld

"most likely, the coup was not planned by the West or US"

You should look a bit more beyond US propaganda, the coup was so obviously planned that In November 2013 Ukrainian MP Oleg Tsarev denounced it (to no avail) in the Rada amidst a chorus of already active Maidan "revolutionaries"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9hOl8TuBUM

William R. Cumming

As a reward for what Classical Greece gave Western Civilization why not just have the US Federal Reserve loan the Greeks $200B at no interest since the US Federal Reserve gave the ECB trillions at zero interest?

As to the Ukraine just partition it at the appropriate river!

Babak Makkinejad

Send a couple of million dollars of that 200 billion my way so that the public library here could resume operating on Fridays.

What percentage of your pension income are you willing to send to Greece to support Greeks partying?

Booby

in reply to Twisted Genius & Tyler:

When I joined a Marine Infantry Battalion in VN as a FAC I thought that I was bringing the gods' gift to war to the field - air power. Within weeks I began to worship the mortars - the 60mm, 81mm & four deuces. In a meeting engagement, the mortars would have steel on target within minutes while I was still on the radio requesting the air support. I once watched a 81mm crew have all 10 rounds of a Double Iron Cross in the air before the 1st round impacted. I watched a 60mm mortarman hand hold the tube & walk rounds up a trail that was ascending a mountain & curving away. The mortar is an awesome weapon in the hands of a great crew.

William R. Cumming

No Fifth Century BCE Greeks alive not even the 300 Spartans.

bth

The whole Lukashenko interview is about Different Clue, speculate all you want, but read the Lukashenko interview for what it says. The entire article is on Belarus' relationship with Russia so I'm pretty sure he's concerned about Putin. I just thought the whole interview was odd in its timing and its content. Also what happens to Belarus and other Russian satellite states if they've tied themselves to the Russian economy that is now sinking like an anchor? Belarus is going to need to export to other markets or get pulled down themselves. Also I suspect Belarus doesn't want to be a transit point for Russians to attack Ukraine from the north.

MRW

Since Greece became the equivalent of the US State of Georgia when it gave up its sovereign currency for the Euro, the rich Greeks were free to move their money to a country like Germany, just like those in Atlanta can bank in New York.

So Greece is (1) not collecting a lot of tax dollars locally, and (2) it does not have the bank deposits or reserves to earn lower interest rates from the bond vigilantes (mainly French banks) who have hovered like vultures and pounced.

The best thing it could do is go back to the drachma. At least, it would be able to pay its own people in its own currency.

VietnamVet


different clue,

This is true. But, Western Plutocrats, Neo-conservatives, R2Ps, and Neo-liberals don’t give a damn about the long term consequences of their actions. Yemen, Libya, Iraq, Syria and Ukraine are all disasters because they believe they are the chosen ones. They create their own reality. They are above failure.

Medicine Man

A clear false dichotomy: Recognizing that NATO has out-lived its original purpose is not an endorsement of isolationism. Nice try though.

Babak Makkinejad

I ask again:

How much money exactly, out of your pension money, you personally are willing to send to Greece to subsidize their fun ways?

Babak Makkinejad

Yes, I agree.

Telling people to suffer economically for 7 years with no end in sight is not going to be tolerated; I suppose Portugal, Italy, and Spain are not too far behind.

It as though there is a great god of economics out there that after the obligatory period of penance - as determined by the Germans - is going to bring forward the economic good times.

Greece is as corrupt, as inefficient, as undeveloped, and as nepotistic as any other Middle Eastern country; she never belonged in the EU.

The Beaver

@ ex-PFC,

I doubt about France , considering who is the close adviser of F Hollande these days - J Audibert (if there is a French war hawk , he is one). Also , with France's goal to keep a thump in Africa (for the French businessmen), she will need the US to do some lifting for her whenever there is trouble in the African nations ( she is well equipped but the US have more sophisticated arms and cargo planes)

bwilli123


Interesting thoughts
http://www.the-american-interest.com/2015/01/27/in-it-to-win-it/
"The key to Putin’s thinking is that he is betting less on Russian strength than on German and therefore Western weakness. In opposing the consolidation of a German Europe, he is betting on German failure more than he is betting on Russian success. The goal of Russian policy in Ukraine, for example, is not to create a new Ukraine in Russia’s image. It is not to conquer Ukraine–but to demonstrate that the East is indigestible. Germany cannot save Ukraine or organize Ukraine. It doesn’t have the money, the military culture or the political skills to convert this particular sow’s ear into the silk purse of a North Atlantic market democracy. Germany cannot save Ukraine when the price of oil is at $100 per barrel; it cannot save Ukraine when the price of oil is $25 per barrel."

Babak Makkinejad

I read it.

I thought it was very insightful.

Had Germany countenanced ECB assuming public debt in 2008, Spain, Portugal, Italy, and Greece would have been in a much better shape.

I agree also with the statement that Germans think culture does not matter; an extremely ironic observation of a people whose best thinkers, writers, musicians and poets spent the better part of 19-th century in creating a German National Culture; a culture that was vigorously being imitated by all the Slavic people of the time.

The disrespecting of history must also be considered as part of that "culture-does-not-matter" fetish - the extension of Western European institutions to the areas outside of the old boundary between Eastern and Western Roman Empires.

Thank for posting this; I estimate that Putin is probably more right than wrong and EU states live in a glass house.

Tyler

Alba,

1)Police need Bear Cats when they're dealing with 5000 angry coloreds looking for an excuse to riot, ginned up by 500 professional agitators funded by George Soros.

People wring their hands about police being too "militarized". Then they wring their hands when police say "Okay, you do it" (witness NYC after the execution of Lu and Ramos). Basically police have to be mind readers.

2) Marriage is culturally, traditionally, and legally between a man and a woman for the past 10,000 years. Anything else is a joke at best, an abomination at worst. They have the same rights to be married as anyone else: to someone of the opposite sex. You start making arguments on feels and "two grown adults" and congrats - you've just opened the Pandora's box of perversities.

3) Calling someone a Nazi officially lost all meaning when HilDog Clinton called Vladimir Putin, who lost a brother when Stalingrad was besieged by the mother effin Wehrmacht, a Nazi. If someone starts dropping the N-bomb I immediately suspect their motives.

Tyler

TTG,

Always unimpressed with battalion level assets. They tended to be, in my eyes, the fattest and laziest troop, but the best at Spades. In Afghanistan we were rolling around in short platoons on the line (3 sqds with an attached mortar/FO team) trying to draw the Afghanis out to a fight, which with those odds they were usually happy to oblige. You HAD to be a sh-t hot gun team or else someone was going to eat an RPG because we didn't have the luxury of taking cover in a wash. This versus BN mortars who traveled in a platoon with the scout/snipers who weren't out on a hide and the BC's PSD. C'est la vie.

That's pretty impressive about out gunning the battery though. Good DC you had there as well. We have a few of those types running around still, but not as many as we did I reckon.

Tyler

Booby,

Thank you. I think a lot of the problems with the mortar come from officers not knowing what the hell they have and how to effectively use it. One PL was amazed we could give him illum, smoke, AND explosives out of it. Most officers seemed to be itching to call in an air strike versus letting their mortars put a few rounds on target and calling it a day. IDK I was just a Spec 4.

Fred

Piotr,

Leaving the defense alliance that is NATO will not isolate the US.

"You furnish the pictures and I'll furnish the war" So said W.R. Hearst a century ago. Poroshenko, Obama and others are busy doing the same thing right now. The Russian Federation isn't the Kingdom of Spain circa 1908. Not being in NATO eliminates a big probability of being on the receiving end of those ICBMs you are worried about falling on my country - due to warmongers in Europe. It will also make you and your fellow citizens figure out how to defend your own country without my people doing the killing and dying for you.

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