"In late July 2002 the CIA turned to the psychologists, according to both former intelligence officials and congressional investigators. Jessen was then a senior psychologist at the Defense Department agency that taught special operations forces how to resist and endure torture via so called "SERE" training, or Survival, Evasion, Resistance Escape training, at a special "SERE" school. Jessen was sent to the CIA "for several days" to discuss the techniques, according to congressional investigators. Jessen immediately resigned from the Air Force and, along with Mitchell, another recently retired colleague, founded Mitchell, Jessen & Associates.
The Senate report states the contractor "developed the list of enhanced interrogation techniques and personally conducted interrogations of some of the CIA's most significant detainees using those techniques. The contractors also evaluated whether the detainees' psychological state allowed for continued use of the techniques, even for some detainees they themselves were interrogating or had interrogated."" NBC News
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As is reflected in the two cited SST posts below I deduced in 2007 and 2008 that the CIA run interrogation torture program had its roots in the "Survival, Evasion, Resistance, Escape" (SERE) training program that the USAF ran during the Cold War. This program existed for the purpose of preparing air crews for what they might experience if shot down and/or captured by a communist enemy.
Several theater air force commands ran such training courses. The civilian psychologists who are mentioned in the NBC News story were the technical experts for all these schools.
USAF South ran such a school in the Panama Canal Zone and the Republic of Panama in the '60s. 8th US Army Special Forces Group was home based in the Canal Zone. The air force asked 8th SF to send a few men to each class in the belief that the "Greenies" would keep the air force students alive out in the jungle during the course. Accordingly, I was a student in one of these course. The survival training in the jungle near Columbia was routine business for the SF people. That was much like our usual environment. We ate a lot of wild turkey, monkey and palm heart. We showed the air force people how to find their way around in the wilderness. It was much like a picnic. Then, at the end of the course, we were all seized and put in a "practise" PW camp where we were held naked for days without shelter during the monsoon, subjected to many of the "techniques" described in the senate report and then at the end, waterboarded. I am here to tell you that anyone who thinks waterboarding is not torture has not been waterboarded. I thought then and think now that the psychologists and air force people who ran the camp were dangerous sadists.
When the question of waterboarding and torture arose after 9/11 I decided that such abuse must have its roots in the SERE schools since, in spite of leftist fantasies, the USG had not tortured people since the Phillipine Insurrection. There was no basis in dictrine for such behavior. In VN there were occasional vilations of US military law in this area but when discovered they were punished.
Bush 43 said that the people who ran this program were American patriots because they sacrificed their own sensibilities for the greater good. Himmler said much the same thing to a gathering of SS leaders in 1942. The torturers and their Mengele clone advisers are probably safe from prosecution but they should be shunned by all decent people. pl
http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2007/11/waterboarding-i.html
http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2008/07/guantanamo-and.html
Colonel,
Thanks for that confirmation. And for your confirmation that waterboarding is indeed torture.
These people should be shunned, and that means no TV appearances to attempt to justify their actions. And some, particularly Hayden, should be prosecuted to lying to the President and Congress.
Posted by: oofda | 10 December 2014 at 09:51 AM
Colonel
The original articles on the Mormon Mafia - the two psychologists/psychopaths :
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/07/torture200707
"Mitchell and Jessen's methods were so controversial that, among colleagues, the reaction to their names alone became a litmus test of one's attitude toward coercion and human rights. Their critics called them the "Mormon mafia" (a reference to their shared religion) and the "poster boys" (referring to the F.B.I.'s "most wanted" posters, which are where some thought their activities would land them)."
http://www.salon.com/2007/06/21/cia_sere/
There is a third one:
"On Wednesday, dozens of psychologists made public a joint letter to American Psychological Association president Sharon Brehm fingering another CIA-employed psychologist, R. Scott Shumate. Previous news reports led the American Medical Association and the American Psychiatric Association to ban their members from participating in interrogations"
Posted by: The beaver | 10 December 2014 at 10:28 AM
I can't remember the name of the training, but I also was in pilot escape and evade training AFTER returning from Vietnam, oddly enough. All of the pilots from my Ft Hood Cav unit were sent through the course. We were divided into squads of about 7 or 8. We had to navigate through various check points using topo maps and evade the Rangers who were searching for us. We had to stay in the bush for three days surviving off what food we could get off the land. There was a Ranger with each group with a radio, for safety they claimed, but I'm quite sure they also stayed in touch with our pursuers.
My group was lucky enough to not be captured. I believe they always made sure some groups would be captured. Those who were captured were taken to a mock POW camp. Those that were captured said as they approached the camp, they heard screaming but most assumed it was just all part of the show. One I talked with said he started laughing, believing it was just all part of the show, but a few minutes later, it was he that was screaming, and there was nothing fake about it. And yes, water-boarding was one of the tortures they did on the captives.
Posted by: FND | 10 December 2014 at 11:26 AM
RE: Himmler and Bush 43. It nauseates me that sober and patriotic Americans, of good intent, can find that easy a parallel between the two. We have learned nothing, simply nothing, from our past.
Posted by: BabelFish | 10 December 2014 at 11:38 AM
Babelfish
I didn't compare the two. Bush said what he said. pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 10 December 2014 at 11:56 AM
Feinstein and McCain, despite their feigned outrage, have successfully conspired with Obama and the CIA to release this report at a time when the American people are least likely to be paying attention, just before Christmas. As a result, it will be quickly buried and forgotten. And nothing will be done to hold torturers accountable or to prevent future abuses.
However, Obama and his ilk will continue to trumpet America as a beacon of light for human rights and exemplary behavior. The State Department will continue to issue its righteous human rights reports. This will make Americans proud to be represented by such a noble government. But the torture report will lurk in the back of the minds of many foreigners as a blatant example of American hypocrisy and, unlike Americans, will make their judgements according to what America does, not what it says.
Posted by: JohnH | 10 December 2014 at 12:15 PM
Well said, PL.
Posted by: shege | 10 December 2014 at 12:27 PM
Look how well the German POWs were treated in ww2.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_prisoners_of_war_in_the_United_States
Things changed with the cold war...
Some these torture methods might have there root here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra
3Ds
http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/2785980?uid=3738232&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21105427038473
Here' another program utilising torture methods.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Program
What problems will torture have created down the road?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayyid_Qutb
Posted by: C Webb | 10 December 2014 at 12:40 PM
Col. Lang -
Based on your extensive experience, is there any way to clean up this mess? Especially given that there doesn't seem to be any political will from either party to root this out and destroy it?
Posted by: HankP | 10 December 2014 at 12:51 PM
This is just awful, but I do not think the nation can put it behind them without some kind of official sanctions against the people responsible. And make sure nobody in the future even contemplates it.
Posted by: Lars | 10 December 2014 at 01:03 PM
Do I understand correctly that at least two M.D.s also assisted the CIA in designing torture techniques?
Posted by: William R. Cumming | 10 December 2014 at 01:08 PM
Pat says "the USG had not tortured people since the Phillipine Insurrection."
Hmm - not sure that is true.
There was maybe no known structured top-down torture program during the Korea and Vietnam wars but cases of torture certainly occurred.
The 1963 CIA KUBRAK manual included "principal coercive techniques of interrogation: arrest, detention, deprivation of sensory stimuli through solitary confinement or similar methods, threats and fear, debility, pain, heightened suggestibility and hypnosis, narcosis and induced regression,”" says the Senate report. It was used on Soviet agent that went over to the U.S.
Torture was also part of the standard program taught at the School of Americas where the various South American dictatorships send their people to learn how suppress their populations.
Dan Mitrione was on of the CIA people who organized and supervised torture in Uruguay.
The CIA also had the MK Ultra and Artichoke programs which both amount to torture and led to the death of some people.
It is interesting that both Rumsfeld and Cheney were briefed on these programs in 1975.
Is that what gave them the ideas?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Mitrione
http://www.newsweek.com/cia-torture-practices-started-long-911-attacks-senate-report-notes-290746
http://truth-out.org/archive/component/k2/item/89725:cries-from-the-past-tortures-ugly-echoes
Posted by: b | 10 December 2014 at 01:33 PM
Thank you, Colonel. We, as a nation, were foolish and acquiescent…but warned by FDR that fear itself is the greatest danger. He was right.
Posted by: Laura Wilson | 10 December 2014 at 01:36 PM
The Australian Equivalent course was called "Code Of Conduct" (as a POW).
I signed up for it as a curious First Lieutenant.
My CO rang me a day later and talked me out of it thank God.
Posted by: Walrus | 10 December 2014 at 02:24 PM
Col.:
Once again I'm grateful for your morality and clarity on this topic. Thank you for writing this.
Posted by: Medicine Man | 10 December 2014 at 02:26 PM
Colonel, I went through Air Force survival school at Fairchild AFB in Washington state in 1984, which included evasion and escape and POW training. It was not pleasant but it was nothing like what you describe. The commander of the school at the time had been a POW in Vietnam and the course, as I recall, emphasized the kind of organizing that the Vietnam POWs did to maintain their own morale, and while it was psychologically stressful, the course did not include any physical abuse. I was sickened though, years later, to learn that the SERE methods became the basis for the torture program.
Posted by: Carl O. | 10 December 2014 at 02:50 PM
Col.
A combination of on-the-fly repurposing of a reverse-engineered SERE and the influence of Israeli argumentation in the beltway political class over treatment of Muslim “terrorists” (exigent threat allowing for extraordinary measures).
The toxicity in the political process that has morphed this into a partisan issue will keep any accountability from occurring. Not unusual when looking at all the other issues of the day, but unfortunate as the U.S. had a strong hand in altering global norms and establishing international law regarding such practices as well as the law of warfare and sanction against wars of aggression. I truly wonder how Robert Jackson would assess the response to 9/11.
As for SERE you were most decidedly correct. It appears that it was reverse engineered during a crisis rather than sober reflection being applied to the path forward in response.
VICE interviews James Mitchell here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmNUi0itl-8
Boing Boing expose …
Meet James Mitchell, CIA's post-9/11 torture architect whose firm we paid $80 million
http://boingboing.net/2014/12/10/meet-james-mitchell-cias-po.html
The Psychologists Who Taught the C.I.A. How to Torture (and Charged $180 Million)
http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2014/12/psychologists-cia-torture-report
Posted by: John Measor | 10 December 2014 at 06:48 PM
No medical doctors have been implicated, but two PhD’s - James Mitchell and Bruce Jessen. See my post below for the links as they were ‘outed’ previously as in 2007 and 2009 there were reports by Katherine Eban (Vanity Fair) and Scott Shane (NYT).
Posted by: John Measor | 10 December 2014 at 07:17 PM
John H and all: my take exactly:
Feinstein and McCain, despite their feigned outrage, have successfully conspired with Obama and the CIA to release this report at a time when the American people are least likely to be paying attention, just before Christmas. As a result, it will be quickly buried and forgotten. And nothing will be done to hold torturers accountable or to prevent future abuses.
Posted by: Haralambos | 10 December 2014 at 07:27 PM
Haralambos
"Feinstein and McCain, despite their feigned outrage, have successfully conspired with Obama and the CIA to release this report at a time when the American people are least likely to be paying attention, just before Christmas." Absolute rubbish. I thought you had better sense. pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 10 December 2014 at 07:29 PM
Haralambos and Farooq
Both GW Bush and Himmler argued that to sacrifice one's human sensibility in the service of a higher cause is a noble thing. I disagree. Swinish behavior is just that. It matters not what the cause may be. pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 10 December 2014 at 07:35 PM
Some more information on the manuals.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Army_and_CIA_interrogation_manuals
There has to be truth before reconciliation and resolution.
1) Define the problem as it was.
2) Implement measures so it does not happen again.
3) Have a system of punishment to prosecute those who breach those measures.
Otherwise, it's a PR exercise and torture will continue in a different way after a respite.
IMHO, if it continues it will eventually undermine even the strong philosophical foundations upon which America was founded. (That's the goal of the enemies of Western civilisation)
Posted by: C Webb | 10 December 2014 at 08:56 PM
Col.Lang,
Thank you for this piece. I found it enormously enlightening. I greatly appreciate you sharing it.
Posted by: harry | 10 December 2014 at 09:43 PM
Haralambos is right about nobody doing anything:
Obama: "Rather than another reason to refight old arguments, I hope that today’s report can help us leave these techniques where they belong—in the past.”
HuffPo: "Despite Torture Uproar, DOJ Still Says No To Prosecutions."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/09/doj-torture_n_6298276.html
"Similarly, White House press secretary Josh Earnest said any decisions about people being held "accountable" were up to the Justice Department. . . . ‘This inquiry was extraordinarily thorough and we stand by our previously announced decision [2009] not to initiate criminal charges,' the Justice Department spokesman said. . . . The official added, 'At the time, they were authorized and they were reviewed as legal.'"
Posted by: MRW | 10 December 2014 at 11:10 PM
During the WWII Canadian soldiers certainly engaged in relatively wide spread rape Gent/Melle region of the Flanders, during the liberation. German invaders, 4 years before them, though were though of being very disciplined. This is what I personally heard from several survivors and no they were not Nazi sympathizers. In The Netherlands (during the Hunger Winter of 1945) and around the Belgian-German border, the behavior of the Germans was as bad as it gets depicted in the average movie.
I think, it had more to do with a mood of invincibility and rapid end to active engagements at the beginning of the war instead of the relative attrition towards the end.
Posted by: Amir | 10 December 2014 at 11:45 PM