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15 December 2014

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Valissa

Based on the information in the following article, the gunman is not a recent Jihadi convert but rather longtime crank.

Martin Place, Sydney siege gunman identified as Man Haron Monis http://www.theage.com.au/nsw/martin-place-sydney-siege-gunman-identified-as-man-haron-monis-20141215-127sxt.html

The man who continues to hold more than a dozen people hostage, placing Sydney's CBD into lockdown is no stranger to the NSW police or the judiciary.

Self-described cleric, Man Haron Monis, 50, first came to attention of police when he penned poisonous letters to the family of dead Australian soldiers seven years ago.

Last year he was charged with being an accessory to the murder of his ex-wife and mother of two.

Most recently, he was charged with more than 50 allegations of indecent and sexual assault relating to time allegedly spent as a self-proclaimed "spiritual healer" who dealt with black magic at a premises in western Sydney more than a decade ago.

Lord Curzon

Colonel,

This imbecile makes reminds me of the scene from the film 'Four Lions', where Waj holds up a kebab shop. If you haven't, do so, it's priceless. "Rubber dingy rapids, bro!"

Aka

sir,
seems it has ended, with fatalities. police stormed it.

Fred


"the Reuters news agency, citing a police source in Sydney, identifed the assailant as an Iranian refugee, Han Haron Monis, who has been known to send hate mail to families of Australian soliders killed overseas. Monis, according to Reuters, also had been previously convicted of sexual assualt and is a self-styled Islamic cleric"

So a refuge was convicted of a sexual assult but not deported? I assume that is because he became a citzen before the felony was committed. (In which case shouldn't he identified as an Australian rather than as a refugee? Perhaps I'm mistaken). When did this convicted felon obtain a firearm in Australia? I thought thier gun restrictions and licensing requirements were stricter than any in the US? I expect this incident is going to make Australian politics even more turbulent.

Aka

Valissa,

"Based on the information in the following article, the gunman is not a recent Jihadi convert but rather longtime crank. "

probably why he asked for a ISIS flag. If it was a real jihadi, we would be seeing lot of dead bodies. After all ISIS asked it foreign sympathizers to behead infidels. Not to take to takeover chocolate shops.

Interestingly the perpetrator is a Iranian. Is he a sunni or a shia?

Valissa

Aka, here is another article on Man Haron Monis with more details on his background. http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/12/what-we-know-about-the-sydney-hostage-taker.html

Early reports said that Monis is a Shia Muslim — a claim that seemed incongruent with his alleged support of ISIS. ... Now it seems that Monis converted to Sunni Islam quite recently — in fact, as recently as a week ago. In postings on his site, he sometimes urges Muslims to unite and avoid separating one another into sub-categories.
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Are those Sunni or Shia bats in his belfry? Does it matter?


The beaver

@ Aka

An opportunistic loon who sipposedly converted from Shi'a to Sunni and who does not know how to dress properly to reflect his beliefs. One day a head-dress, Turban à la Shi'a and another day , a Taqiyah/Kufi like a Pakistani or Indian Muslim.

Babak Makkinejad

All:

Details on this man here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_Haron_Monis

I knew he was deranged when I read that he had changed his name to one sounding more Arabic.

No sane Iranian would do that.

Evidently, as is usual, he played to the gullible Westerners quite successfully and got himself refugee status in Australia.

Mexicans are well advised to declare themselves to be liberal Shia Iranians who are fleeing the Islamic Republic of Iran....they would be resettled in Lincoln with pocket money on US government dime.

Babak Makkinejad

Accoridng to the Wiki article below; he had claimed to be a "spiritual healing and an expert in astrology, numerology, meditation and black magic.."

In Iran, such people are arrested and hauled in front of a magistrate.

Fred

Babak,

The Mexicans work. To get on that gravy train they would need to get behind the anti-Assad Syrians, "pro Western" Ukrainians and Pussy Riot Russians.

Farooq

+1 for that movie recommendation. It defines what a dark comedy is meant to be.
Most westerners probably cannot understand the expletives that Riz Khan delivered in one of the scene in rapid succession but that was a classic scene.
The scene related to confusion between a wookie and honey monster towards the tragic end of movie is also a master piece.

walrus

Gunman dead along with Two hostages at 2.20am local time.

How did he get a firearm? Easy, just pay enough money for an illegal one. There are plenty for sale if you know the right criminal.

According to the media this morning, he was on bail for a string of violent offences. It sounds to me that he was only marginally stable and decided to go "the full retard".

Why was he still in Australia? He was a political refugee from Iran. If you follow the U.N. Convention on refugees like we do, you can't send him back to Iran no matter what his crime here. Who else would take him?

I followed this drama Yesterday and quickly got bored by the TV commentators vapid chatter and the endless procession of earnest academic "terrorism experts" grinding their own particular axes who make me sick.

IMHO, this should have been treated as a purely criminal matter and been subject to a complete news blackout. If I turn on te TV, I am sure to be subjected to more academic idiots "are all muslims violent like this?" etc., etc.

The next stage will be pious politicians calling for a state funeral for the victims, endless outpourings of public grief for the media digestion, memorials and tributes, followed by new proposals for special anti terror laws to deal with this "threat".

There will no doubt be more violence against the muslim community in the aftermath of this.

I expect Stephen Harper will fly in for the State funeral to be with his buddy Tony Abbott.

Dubhaltach

In all the bad news to come out of this some very good news. I'll quote from the article:

"This, this is what good people do"

I very much doubt that this would happen in Denmark. Or in America given the current atmosphere, or ... insert name of wherever you live here.

Well done to everyone who does this.

Dubhaltach

Dubhaltach

In reply to Babak Makkinejad 15 December 2014 at 01:24 PM

"No sane Iranian would do that."

All the world but thee and me is strange and even thee's a little strange ...

Dubhaltach

Dubhaltach

Oops looks like the link to that report from Sydney may not have come through. Sorry 'bout that:

http://tinyurl.com/l2j5ayc

turcopolier

all

It is a good thing that the SWAT team killed him. He wanted a public martyrdom and it is good that he was denied that. pl

Tyler

The twitter hashtag bullshit is just another nonevent in a long string of progressive moral preening for social status.

If you listened to social justice warrior insanity, evil white Christians are the ones beheading people who don't agree with their Salafist beliefs and then holding up the Papal Flag.

Oh wait that's not what's going on at all.

It seems that between Ferguson and the UVa rape hoax falling apart, the Left has decided to double down on its insane world view. I've seen some wags saying "its not narrative collapse, but narrative Armageddon". This is just another symptom of that.

William R. Cumming

ALL: Do some religions seize and promote mental illness?

ked

Over the years, as my kids grew up and these kind of meaningless, tragic events occurred, I would remind them, "there are 7 billion people living on this planet... a few of them are crazy. be aware, but don't let it get to you."

Tyler

Ked,

Yeah you're right. IS happens to be a prank that got a little out of hand.

Tyler

ALCON

If you want to read the thoughts of the lady behind "iwillridewithyou", here they are:

http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-media-heroine-of-the-australian-counterbacklash-has-some-issues/

Mind you, she makes me look like Dr. Silverman. I have my doubts,this even happened, but there it is.

ked

I can tell the difference between insanity and a violent social movement. So can my kids. Good luck with your powers of discrimination.

Lord Curzon

Indeed. Brother Crow will be along shortly....

Anonymous

"seems it has ended"

Australia must be a sad place, where things end before a single polish guy appears out of nowhere to demand worldwide nuclear war.

Aka

walrus ,
"Why was he still in Australia? He was a political refugee from Iran. If you follow the U.N. Convention on refugees like we do, you can't send him back to Iran no matter what his crime here. Who else would take him?"

Can't you just send them to fiji and nauru?

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