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29 November 2014

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Aka

sir,
" He professed to find that hard to believe. I told him he needed to meet more people in the ME."

what kind of a psychologist don't believe that people would lie? If it was US/EU or any developed country, people would not lie to become policemen. But Iraq was a different country with lot of desperate people. Even if the people didn't belong to any shia group, it still contained lot of people who were in a desperate need of job.

"Successful participants would gradually attain access to higher levels of training and weaponry"

haha this sounds like a videogame. Will they give points based on the performance?

bth

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/11/29/isil-reportedly-attackssyriantownkobanifromturkey.html Claim that Turks are allowing Kobani to be attacked from Turkish territory.

Haralambos

With all due respect, in re: "If it was US/EU or any developed country, people would not lie to become policemen." I believe you overrate the US and EU in terms of honesty, and I can speak with 40 years of university teaching experience in the US, Greece, and Portugal plus my involvement in several self-studies for (re)accreditation. The ME may be worse than some other places, but academic fraud is fairly common, and by that I do not mean just puffing up CVs but outright lying on degrees held and publications.

turcopolier

Haralambos

"... academic fraud is fairly common, and by that I do not mean just puffing up CVs but outright lying on degrees held and publications." Not the same at all. In Iraq in the case of these policemen selectees, the lies were for the purpose of obtaining power not for the gaining of money but rather to gain the power to kill sectarian and ethnic enemies. pl

FB Ali

Re the (laughable) plan to progressively screen "moderate" Syrian fighters as they move up the ladder. Sounds like a scheme by some contractor to make money off the US Defence Dept.

As for what really happens on the ground, read this enlightening McClatchy report: http://tinyurl.com/n4ry5aw. An extract:

"On Friday....the Nusra Front stormed the bases of two moderate rebel groups in Syria’s north: the Ansar Brigades in Idlib and the Haqq Front in Hama. The two groups, both of which were receiving U.S. support through a covert CIA program, surrendered to Nusra, delivered their weapons to Ahrar al Sham and returned to their homes".

Dubhaltach

"If it was US/EU or any developed country, people would not lie to become policemen."

Well speaking as a European who did a lot of his growing up in the Middle East I hope that that sentence was an attempt at irony.


No on second thoughts I don't hope that that sentence was an attempt at irony, come on over and bring lots of money with you - there's this game called "poker" I think you'd really enjoy.

Dubhaltach

Aka

Haralambos,
again With all due respect, If it was US/EU or any developed country, I don't think people would not lie to become POLICEMEN.

turcopolier

AkA
"
Also known as? " I don't quite understand the double negative. What are you trying to say? pl

Aka

All,
news report claims ISIS has attacked Kobani from inside Turkey.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/29/isis-attack-kobani-inside-turkey-first-time

Aka

Haralambos,
correction: again With all due respect, If it was US/EU or any developed country, I don't think people would lie to become POLICEMEN.

Aka

sorry for the mistake sir. corrected. I don't think people (very few may) would lie to become policemen in EU/US or any other developed country.

However, Iraq's case seems to differ according to your insights (people become policemen to kill their enemies. Not for money).

Dubhaltach

" I don't think people (very few may) would lie to become policemen in EU/US or any other developed country. "

I still hope that's an attempt at irony.


In both the US and throughout the EU but particularly in the EU being a policeman is a well paid and secure job of the kind that are become vanishingly rare. Yes people will lie usually by falsifying their educational records. Not a massive problem in the Nordic lands fortunately very much a problem in some of the Balkan ones or so I'm told.

alba etie

Brigadier General Ali
Do we have anyway of knowing how much men & material the CIA has given the "moderates rebels " before it was confiscated by the extremist Wahhabis /salafist . Also from what I have read recently al Nusra has gotten over its ideological differences with ISIL / Daash to the point where the two organizations operationally "lashed together" - is this true as well ?

Aka

Dubhaltach,
well may be I'm wrong. Not having actually lived there I'm not well informed about the changing economic situation.

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