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BabelFish

Bear with me on this point. The administration started off with a street scrapper for a chief of staff, rather than a polished professional. Rahm Imanuel ran the White House like he was a district boss back in Chicago. His boss let him limit access and stayed away from the adults who could have helped create a sane big picture. Those kind of choices in personnel result in the ineptitude we see today.

shege

Well, if memory serves we had all these 'foreign policy experts' closely aligned with the Defense establishment in the last administration. How did that work out for us?

The Politico article is just another Washington 'process' story. The time to judge the foreign policy results of any Administration is well after it has vacated the White House.

William R. Cumming

PL! Heartily agree with the position stated in this post!

makosog

Col. Lang,

One more... He has not been present on the daily intelligence briefings that is why he always acted (or genuinely?) surprised when something out of the ordinary happens.

turcopolier

shege

Your memory serves you ill. these were completely different groups of people. pl

shege

PL, I didn't mean it was the same set of players as we have now. In the last administration we had 'old pros' who were supposed to work well together: Powell, Rice, Rumsfeld, Cheney etc.

We can debate if they 'bumbled', but the results of the foreign policy they implemented are not consistent with the expectations we had of the 'safe hands'.

turcopolier

shege
"Powell, Rice, Rumsfeld, Cheney" Yes, old hands but incompetent or driven by neocon ideology. Powell's idiocy in "buying" the WMD crap is matched by the purposeful conspiracy to invade Iraq indulged in by the others. pl

Tyler

America elects an untested cipher to project their racial fantasies on and it goes poorly: news at 11.


"Neocons! Neocons!" always the neocons!

The neocons and the current Childrens's Crusade are driven by the same utopian impulses - the only question is who gets to pull the lever.

Powers, Rice, Rumsfeld, Cheney? No daylight between them.

Walrus

Banging the old narcissist drum again, but this observed behaviour is typical.

Narcissists like Obama hate, and are scared of, real experience and achievement because they are a direct threat to the narcissists self esteem by demonstrating mastery of their subject matter. I watched a very competent chief of staff in an institution get fired for the crime of correcting a minor mistake her boss had made.

Good people are driven out and replaced with know nothing sycophants and the mutual admiration societies inside many University departments are a ready breeding ground for such folk.

Be aware that everything is personal for the narcissist and his staff must always be in a living hell wondering if they will receive a pat on the back or a slap in the face each day.

With that in mind, I pray for Gen. Dempsey, I believe the President would replace him if he wasn't a coward at heart.

different clue

I wonder if this is due to the pathotoxic narcissism that Walrus has referrenced. He has structured his team of trusted inputters so that only worshipful validators are granted any opportunity for input.

To its credit, this Administration has avoided war with Iran so far.

CTuttle

Dempsey and Hagel earlier today... Dempsey: US considering empowering Sunni tribes

The Pentagon is considering ways to bring the Sunni Arab tribes of Iraq's Anbar province more fully into the battle against the Islamic State group, the top U.S. military officer said Thursday.

Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters that expanding U.S. train-and-advise efforts to include the tribes is one of three key elements of a strategy designed to roll back IS fighters in northern and western Iraq.

The other elements are advising and assisting Iraqi government troops and creating so-called national guard units as a sort of quasi-military force that must first gain legal approval from the Iraqi government.

"You need all three of those eventually," Dempsey said. However, a condition for training and advising the tribes would be the willingness of the Iraqi government to arm them, he said.

Speaking alongside Dempsey, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel agreed that the tribes are an important component of the strategy.

"The Sunni tribes are going to have to be part of this," Hagel said.


http://www.chron.com/news/politics/article/Dempsey-US-considering-empowering-Sunni-tribes-5858842.php

turcopolier

CTuttle

Looks like DoD is catching up to SST. pl

shege

See, agreement can be found on these threads between PL and someone on the left coast!

shege

Tyler says: America elects an untested cipher to project their racial fantasies on and it goes poorly: news at 11.

Shege says: Supreme Court selects an untested cipher to project their right-wing fantasies on and it goes poorly.

Something we can agree on: Powers, Rice, Rumsfeld, Cheney? No daylight between them.

CTuttle

"However, a condition for training and advising the tribes would be the willingness of the Iraqi government to arm them, he said"

Is Abadi willing and/or capable to do so, Sir...?

oth

Realism has been out of fashion for a long, long time.

Charles Dekle

Walrus.

I am wondering if Clinton/Bush/Obama might actually be sociopaths rather than NPDs (http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/basics/symptoms/con-20025568), http://www.naturalnews.com/036112_sociopaths_cults_influence.html#, Or maybe our current and recent leadership are a combination of the two. As I understand it psychopathology is rarely one thing or the other. It is more like a Venn Diagram rather than discrete compartments. Just a thought.

Regards,

Tyler

Shuge,

Get the hell over Bush II. Its almost 8 years now, Obama has continued or doubled down on Bush II's idiot policies and you guys can't admit your flawed negro messiah is a failure.

Its like a,reflex: critique Obama and b-b-b Bush!

turcopolier

C. Tuttle
IMO, no. And so we should pursue our own interest by doing this as a UW op from a base in the KAR. pl

Fred

Col.,

"... we should pursue our own interest..." I second that suggestion. I sure wish someone would replace the White House's "must read" Twitter post summaries with some daily SST required reading.

The Twisted Genius

pl,

And there needs to be no one higher than an SF Colonel in the UWOA. No generals. No whiz kids from think tanks, war colleges or staff schools. The generals need to be outside the area responding to the needs of the in-country commanders, providing top cover for those commanders and their needs, and ensuring the NCA understands what those in-country commanders are doing and need to do.

MRW

Got that right.

alba etie

Tyler
Respectfully - we are still living with Bushcheney .
The Daash insurgency with al Douri cohort as its military planners is a direct result of our taking Saddam Hussein from power . And yes Obama has allowed the neocons and the neoliberal Wilsonians to hijack our current foreign affairs policies in Ukraine and elsewhere at great peril to These United States. At least we did not bomb Syria over the CW false flag incident. And how we are doing destroying and degrading Daash/ISIL at this time is clearly an open question . It defies logic to me why we cannot somehow persuade al Douri to disavow al Baghadadi .

Omonaija

Am always amused by stories like this in the media. Obama is in his lame duck phase and those in the administration or those positioning themselves for the next one plant stories like this. American foreign policy is littered with decisions that time that proven idiotic at best. If Obama is hesitant to engage in war,......am all for it. What good has all the engagements in the Middle East wrought? A muddled mess.

I spent a good amount of time watching Dr. Porches presentation to the UK Commons committee and comments about doing nothing seem to take these parliamentarians by surprise.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?322230-1/british-house-commons-defence-committee-hearing-isis

Green Zone Cafe

Dempsey wants US advisors to go back and tell the tribes in Anbar "We're back, and you can trust us this time."

The irony of Americans being back in Iraq to back both the Iraqi government and the Sunni tribes again, so they can both maintain their illusions and not have to compromise, just like 2007-11.

I'm skeptical. Either they have to fight it out themselves, or some serious head-knocking of both sides is required. Unfortunately, the vulnerability of Americans being in Iraq and eager desire for immediate good-news seems to preclude the head-knocking.

The solutions are within reach, but foolish intransigence has been ruling.

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