Three crooks, three liars, three men who have betrayed the trust of the American people; what should be done with them?
- DNI Clapper perjured himself before the US Senate and was allowed to apologize and stay on.
- General Keith Alexander has gone into business in retirement for the purpose of selling cyberwarfare knowledge that rightly belongs to the American people.
- John Brennan is now revealed as yet another liar. He told everyone who would listen that CIA had not hacked its way into computers belonging to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI). Now the CIA IG has produced a report that states the opposite. Brennan has apologized to the senate. That is not enough. The SSCI's role is oversight of the CIA. Under Brennan's command CIA tried to escape that oversight.
Obama will probably not allow prosecution of these traitors to the spirit of American democracy. They know too much. pl
Col Lang,
In my opinion they all three should be prosecuted and jailed if found guilty but I think that you are right. To quote an old friend of mine of Polish extraction, "that will happen when pigs fly and cows give beer!"
Kind regards,
Posted by: Charles Dekle | 01 August 2014 at 12:10 PM
Thanks Pat for fighting the good fight!
Our country has gone so far down the rabbit hole that a normal course correction is no longer possible.
Today few people notice the dichotomy in the rule of law and the inherent contradictions and conflicts of interests in our foreign and economic policies. Both the left and right continue to push for bigger government to enforce their swag.
IMO, we'll need a significant institutional catastrophe before the majority wake up to the colossal failure in the immense growth in statism, resulting in what some are now calling the "deep state" that acts with impunity.
Posted by: zanzibar | 01 August 2014 at 01:29 PM
CK - that sounds awful for the situation of the "People" if the "government of the people , for the ppp. ..." can and will most likely get away with this. The US democracy is really in the "intensive care unit" and in "critical condition"
Posted by: fanto | 01 August 2014 at 01:35 PM
Obama and Holder are more than just afraid of the "too much" that these three individuals might know. Obama and Holder also politically and personally believe in and support the concept of immunity and impunity for these three and for many other operators at high levels of finance and power.
So do many (how many?) other Democratic officeholders. Pelosi lent aid and comfort to immunity and impunity with her infamous decision that "Impeachment is off the table." She will go down (and I do mean DOWN) in history for that "Ford pardons Nixon" moment.
Posted by: different clue | 01 August 2014 at 02:36 PM
Col:
You are a dinosaur. Your country, a pathetic carcass, should honor you and be proud of you.
Posted by: Charlie Wilson | 01 August 2014 at 02:43 PM
CW
Woof. pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 01 August 2014 at 02:49 PM
CW
"You are a dinosaur." Does that mean I should roll over and play dead? pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 01 August 2014 at 03:13 PM
So Col would you say then that in some way or another we are ruled by a Junta?
Just because there are two political parties that make up the Junta does nothing to diminish the fact that they do as they will and get away with it.
Posted by: samuelburke | 01 August 2014 at 03:33 PM
samuelburke
more like an oligarchy. pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 01 August 2014 at 03:50 PM
Some recent articles and research on this... and I believe the full name for it is "Plutocratic Oligarchy"
The research paper… Testing Theories of American : Elites, Interest Groups and Average Citizens http://www.princeton.edu/~mgilens/Gilens%20homepage%20materials/Gilens%20and%20Page/Gilens%20and%20Page%202014-Testing%20Theories%203-7-14.pdf
My favorite article summarizing the results of the research paper...
The ‘Duh’ Report: Study says America is an Oligarchy, not a Democracy http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/218858/the-duh-report-study-says-america-is-an-oligarchy-not-a-democracy/
From Wikipedia... The Iron Law of Oligarchy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_law_of_oligarchy
Posted by: Valissa | 01 August 2014 at 04:19 PM
Self-regulating autarchies are everywhere -- and possibly always have been -- but new technologies mean that we now know the knaves better and have the vids and texts on a USB drive.
The problem seems to me to be precisely in the "oversight" myth where the overseers have to rely/know well/are colleagues past, present (more or less) and/or (they or their near-relatives hope) future of the nominally overseen.
And while they want to know all about you -- "If you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear!" -- this ludicrous and demonstrably absurd mantra does not seem to apply in reverse.
As has been said often enough, they do it because they can. I can recall many instances (fewer lately since I have put away such childish things) of revelation that the person with whom I was discussing some destructive myth or fantasy had no interest whatever in this and was only interested in keeping the house of cards steady.
Perhaps they were right.
But all the naked emperors had better watch out in an era when games-playing kids know more about commstech that the deputy assistant grand viziers. (And probably have more efficient gear as well.)
Posted by: Peter Brownlee | 01 August 2014 at 05:28 PM
Many years ago, my great grandmother would proudly tell us children, "I shot the bolsheviki." In another time and another place, I would have gladly gut these three loathsome sons of bitches. And later I would proudly tell my children that I did so.
Posted by: The Twisted Genius | 01 August 2014 at 08:08 PM
http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/77318/the-propaganda-and-dishonesty-of-israel-its-lobby-and-obama/#more-77318
pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 02 August 2014 at 08:22 AM
Colonel Lang,
I think Larry Johnson brings out a crucial fact – that it really is difficult to see any exit strategy for the Israelis, or indeed any coherent strategy at all.
In relation to Israel's demographic problems, butchering a thousand or so Palestinians every few years is an irrelevance. In relation to perceptions of the country in the outside world, it isn't. A system of inhibitions rooted in fear of being accused of anti-Semitism is collapsing over here. Whether it can survive in the United States is obviously the key question.
The progressive collapse of old inhibitions here is well described by Robert Fisk in an article in this morning's 'Independent'. A staggering aspect is the audience ratings on his story: 'strongly disagree' 136, 'strongly agree' 2K.
(See http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/dress-the-gaza-situation-up-all-you-like-but-the-truth-hurts-9641240.html .)
Posted by: David Habakkuk | 02 August 2014 at 10:44 AM
Keeping the torture thing under wraps would have necessitated parallel, secret, undocumented and probably unlawful methods of keeping discipline and secrecy in the CIA.
Once those were developed, those methods are at risk of being applied to any problem that might hold those in power in the intelligence agencies accountable. Even if that wasn't the intention.
So what we have here is a clash between the two methods of organisational accountability: between the law with public or congressional accountability, and between an undocumented, secret and corrupting power structure.
Posted by: crf | 02 August 2014 at 01:01 PM