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22 June 2014

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J

Colonel,

Regarding the apparent repeat of 02's
DoD's narrative control all I can say is -- Not again, please not again.

turcopolier

J et al

Some of you will remember that in the year before the war began and for several of the early years of the war I spent a lot of time on television commenting on the Iraq War. I was not being briefed or communicated to by anyone or anything in the government. By the end of 2003 I became suspicious that many of my colleagues on these shows were being briefed by the Pentagon, but I did not know the truth of that and none of them would talk abut it. In 2004 I believe it was I was in London on commercial business and was called at my hotel by the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs who asked me if I would come to a briefing in the Office of the Secretary of Defense with regard to the war. I attended the briefing. It was held in the Secretary of Defense;s conference room. Rumsfeld presided. Present on his side of the "table" were MG (Ret.) Robert Scales and then MG Keith Alexander. These two were clearly there to back up Rumsfeld. The "audience" was made up of a dozen retired three and four star officers whom I had never seen on television but who had major money consulting contracts with the media. The other twenty people in the room were retired filed grade officers and a couple of SF NCOs who were regular "contributors" in the media. Talking points were handed out exactly like the ones in the picture. This was treated as an agenda. The points dealt with the war as well as with Rumsfeld's madcap ideas for the "reformation" of the armed forces, in particular, the Army. I asked embarrassing questions about both the war and the reformation. Alexander awkwardly tried to answer my points about the war and Scales, who evidently had designed the reform for Rumsfeld, did the same. At one point Rumsfeld "cut his boys loose," saying that he did not know the truth of any of this but that, "these guys tell me this is true." the retired officer analysts stared at me with hostility. It was clear that they thought I was screwing up a good thing. I was not invited again. pl

The beaver

Col

Guess politics( re Dempsey) are off limit but pushing the msg of the WH/DoD is ok.

http://intercepts.defensenews.com/2014/05/dempsey-to-retired-generals-shut-up-when-it-comes-to-politics/

Fred

Col.,

Is that the same MG Alexander who has had the NSA spying on Americans without legal authority to do so?

turcopolier

fred

yes, and the same scales who scribbles sentimental drivel in the Washington Post. they had a whiff of the OKW about them. pl

oofda

Indeed, Scales had a piece inthe Post this Sunday morning.
"Sentimental drivel" is polite characterization.

John

Col:
"Whiff(?) of the OKW. They must have had BSL-4 air scrubbers for that briefing room with both Rumsfeld and Alexander present if you only got a whiff. Why do we allow sociopaths such positions of power?

oofda

OKW= "Oberkommando der Wehrmacht?"

turcopolier

oofda

Keitel, Jodl and Warlimont. pl

Fred

OKW? Well they managed to lose a war too, so one more thing in common.

Ryan

Bob Scales and Bill McCowen were on Mike Huckabee's show this weekend. They were there to explain to Huck and his audience the situation in Iraq. Before them they had a map complete with miniature weapons and cards representing Malaki and ISIS forces. It was quite a briefing they put on.

They could have used your services, colonel. They left out a few things about ISIS and who they are allied with like this:

https://twitter.com/AbuBakrAl_Janab/media

What or better yet, whose flag is that flying with these others? (This is a rhetorical question.)

This video hasn't been posted yet. When it is I'll place a link here.

turcopolier

Ryan

Is Bill McCowen the retired marine LTC who is on the FOX payroll? If so, he was at the OSD "briefing" that I discussed the other day. This sounds like a confirmation of the post I did yesterday about OSD briefings for network analysts. I doubt if they could have put on a dog and pony show like that without a little "he'p." pl

Ryan

And making the show a combine army and marine operation at that.

Yes sir, that's the one. He has a beard. I misspelled his name above. It's McCowan.

I remember him as one of the people putting out nonsense prior to the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

turcopolier

Ryan

McCowan spent some time in joint SOF activities. He is not remembered well there. At the meeting I described he approached me and wanted to know if I was someone named Lang who had been a marine. He was quite insistent so that Lang must not have had a great time in the marines. I finally showed him my ID card which clearly says "US Army." For the record I was never a marine. In accord with an old Army joke I wasn't qualified to be a marine. My parents were married to each other. pl

Ryan

LOL, colonel. You shouldn't talk about our brother services in such a manner.

turcopolier

Ryan

I love the marines. pl

crf

Wouldn't cooperating too closely with these special advisers be the kiss of death to higher-ups in the Iraqi military? Which military commander wants to be seen as an America's boy? And even if there is good cooperation, what is going to come of it? One year from now, the specials will have left Iraq, and the situation happening now could easily repeat itself.

Cooperation is going to be minimal, and likely will be ineffective.

Ryan

Here you go, colonel.

Scales and McCowen brief Huckabee and his audience. I still say they could use your assistance.

If you don't want to listen to Huck skip to the 5:50 mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c2DJL4pMis

This is the other half.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF8Y6Y8OhJk

That looks like a neat game they're playing. I'd like to play the OPFOR using the red counters.

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