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17 December 2013

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Alba Etie

Merry Christmas Ishmael Zechariah . And a Safe & Bountiful 2014 .

William R. Cumming

Facts are never reviewed by Appellate Courts only the legal conclusions!

Ishmael Zechariah

Alba Etie,

Thank you. Merry Christmas and a Happy, Healthy, Prosperous New Year to you and yours, and to all of the Good, Honorable and Brave members of the SCT. There will be a day, I hope, when such folks will again have their proper station in this world.

Ishmael Zechariah

turcopolier

WRC

"Facts are never reviewed by Appellate Courts only the legal conclusions!" Yes, but the DC Circuit court of appeals has repeatedly overturned habeas release orders from district court judges. pl

William R. Cumming

Habeas filings somewhat unique since Constitutionally derived and last I heard the Constitution the law of the land.

But you are correct!

Alba Etie

Good day IZ
I have been attempting to understand current situation in your country . I have googled as best I can Fetuall Gulen (?) . Is Gulen a salafist radical ? It appears that Mrs R2P Clinton is supported by Gulen . Is it the fundamentalist Islamist having a factional fight? Wasn't it Gulen 's outfit - behind the scene's going after the Turkish Military General Officer Corp ?
And yes a Healthy , Prosperous New Year to the entire SST community ( Where the hell did 2013 go anyway )

Richard Armstrong

I appreciate you covering my six.

Ishmael Zechariah

Alba Etie,

This is off-topic for this thread. Here is a short summary: Gulen is the leader of bunch of unprincipled cultists who reject the secular Republic of Turkey. The salafists do not consider them Muslims. You can compare him to David Koresh or Jim Jones. He is a supreme liar and dissembler. He is also under the protection of the intelligence services of the USA. Here is Fethullah Gulen in his own words:

"You must move in the arteries of the system without anyone noticing your existence until you reach all the power centers. . . . Until the conditions are ripe, they [the followers] must continue like this. If they do something prematurely, the world will crush our heads, and Muslims will suffer everywhere, like in the tragedies in Algeria, like in 1982 [in] Syria, . . . like in the yearly disasters and tragedies in Egypt. . . . The time is not yet right. You must wait for the time when you are complete and conditions are ripe, until we can shoulder the entire world and carry it. . . . You must wait until such time as you have gotten all the state power, until you have brought to your side all the power of the constitutional institutions in Turkey . . . . Now, I have expressed my feelings and thoughts to you all—in confidence . . . trusting your loyalty and secrecy. I know that when you leave here, [just] as you discard your empty juice boxes, you must discard the thoughts and the feelings that I expressed here."

Here are some links:
http://www.city-journal.org/2012/22_4_fethullah-gulen.html
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2011/06/07/new-york-times%E2%80%99-expose-imam-gulen%E2%80%99s-charter-schools/
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/25/world/middleeast/turkey-feels-sway-of-fethullah-gulen-a-reclusive-cleric.html
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/spy-talk/2011/01/islamic_group_is_cia_front_ex-.html

You can draw your own conclusions.

Ishmael Zechariah

Alba Etie

Tyler
Irony alert

Alba Etie

IZ
Thanks - so Gulen is a cultist kool aid dispenser that US Intelligence is protecting - what could possibly go wrong ?

Alba Etie

Or maybe curl up in Steve Cambone's lap and have a good bawl there ..

Tyler

Oh I picked up on that.

I appreciate you covering my six. ;)

Alba Etie

Tyler
I thought you might have - I find disagreeing without being disagreeable is a disciplined practice, and irony does help .

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