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06 September 2013

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AK

Col. Lang,

Much heartfelt gratitude to you and your colleagues. Obviously the President must be apprised of the information which your letter presents so thoroughly. My question is: What steps have been taken to ensure that he is afforded the opportunity to digest this piece? In other words, I cannot but sense that, sadly, he is very well shielded as you say from this memorandum and other vital information by his policy-advisors in the White/Fun House. Are there effective avenues by which you hope to penetrate the bubble and reach the boy?

Finally, thank you once again for clearly illuminating the difference between professional patriots such as you and your colleagues, and the "historical-figure wannabees" who have become the jellied, wobbly backbone of our nation's government. Hopefully, there are still people like you in active service positions whose professional expertise and reputations are not for sale. If not, we're all proper f-ed.

VietnamVet

CP,

You are correct. He did say that America should support the rebels without bombing Syria. After listening to him twice it didn’t register in my mind. You hear what you want to hear.

As the rebellion drags on, survivors on both sides will be come more radicalized; especially, against the mad dog foreigners who were a cause of their suffering in the first place.

It isn’t as if America hasn’t experienced this before in its own Civil War.

Bandolero

confusedponderer

When you cite MJ Rosenberg to make a point that Grayson is an AIPAC creature, please remark that MJ Rosenberg apologized:

"My Apologies To Rep. Alan Grayson
6 Sep

I have written many times that Rep. Alan Grayson (D-FL) was an AIPAC dupe, kind of a House version of Al Franken.

In fact, he gave plenty of reasons for me think so.

But now he has become a hero. He is fighting AIPAC on its Syria war resolution. Not only that, he is calling AIPAC out by name, saying that AIPAC “falls by the wayside” when the American public weighs in.

Bravo, Rep. Grayson, whose district is in south Florida of all places.

If the peace forces win, he will be a big part of the reason.

I am so happy to have been wrong about him."

http://mjayrosenberg.com/2013/09/06/my-apologies-to-rep-alan-grayson/

Charles I

Fight the good fight sir.

JohnH

"it would seem that there are only two possibilities. Either Obama is consciously complicit, or critical elements of U.S. foreign policy are being run by a cabal of intelligence chiefs who are exploiting the gullibility, naivety, and indeed narcissism of a President who is simply not up to the demands of his position."

You might watch the video of Obama honoring the fallen CIA agents at Dover AFB, particularly the last minute. Then judge for yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4X5SY4aH4g

It shows him to be marching in step, not presiding over the event. I cannot imagine the leader of any nation behaving this way.

joe brand

CNN just broadcast the White House's video "evidence" of a sarin attack, and it was a grim joke: bodies writhing on pavement, hundreds of "helpers" rushing around in t-shirts and flip-flops without being harmed in any way.

Charles

Col Lang,
Thank you. I have added Consortium News to my browser favorites.
Regards,

Walrus

David,

Very well said, yes, there seem to Two possibilities regarding the instigation of this situation. It wonder which is worse? A weak President in thrall to a cabal or a modern version of A Shakespearean Richard III?

The pressures being placed on serving intelligence staff in both U.S and U. K. must be unbearable at present and the only consolation they have is the same as Alan Brooke's - that he would cease to be of any use to Churchill ( and country) if he didn't tell him what he really thought just to avoid another row.

The supreme irony in all this is that America was prime mover in developing the concept of international law and the U. N.

different clue

If Grayson is only strongly against starting us a new war by attacking Syria, that is still good and useful all by itself.
Even if he still supports "arming the rebels", his opposing the planned Obama attack may help prevent the outbreak of the wider war and may leave the Assad government-military intact enough to continue receiving and integrating arms and support from Russia/Iran/China. And as long as that remains the case, it remains possible for Russia/Iran/China to aid the Syrian government so heavily and overwhelmingly as to flood out and overwhelm all aid to the rebels.
So he still supports "arm the rebels"? I will live with that given his strong support for "prevent the attack". If we all can really prevent the attack, we will have bought time and space for all the right people to heighten public doubt about who really used the gas and about who the rebels really are and what they really want.
Perhaps I am just too easy to please.

different clue

I remember reading/hearing claims that Syrian doctors near the affected area treated non-dead victims with atropine and the atropine worked. If that is really true, the question arises: do inhaled
or skin-absorbed ethylene oxide and propylene oxide work the same was as nerve gas and would atropine treat eth-ox and prop-ox exposure as effectively as atropine treats nerve-agent exposure? If so, then eth-ox and prop-ox could be as likely as nerve agent. If not (assuming Syrian doctors really did treat successfully the non-dead patients with atropine) then eth-ox and prop-ox would seem to be ruled out.
Maybe the knowledge of doctors could be invited
along with the knowledge of chemical weapons experts?
And if the UN analysts discover traces of nerve agent rather than eth-ox and prop-ox in the taken samples then the question still arises: who diddit?

different clue

But if Congress can vote "no" so overwhelmingly as to scare the Obama group out of attacking Syria,
then China/Russia/Iran/others will see a people and their Congress able to restrain an outlaw administration and might take account of that in their planning too.

David

A Russian friend once told me that back during Soviet times, people read Pravda not for the news,
but to find out what the powers that be considered news. I think the same of our "Pravda on the Hudson".

Babak Makkinejad

May be, but there is no certainty.

Buzz Meeks

Thank you for the letter. Called Schumer and Gillibrand. Wonder if their lackeys will get back to me after pointing out AIPAC's ownership of these two sorry Fifth Columnists.

robt willmann

The attempt to keep the public from seeing and hearing and evaluating any of the so-called evidence that the Syrian government did a chemical weapons attack on 21 August is becoming more obvious.

Apparently, the only documentation "to prove" the event consists of the publicly available "assessment" of 30 August, which contains no evidence, only conclusory statements,

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/08/30/government-assessment-syrian-government-s-use-chemical-weapons-august-21

and a "classified summary" that is 12 pages long. So says U.S. representative Alan Grayson (Dem.-Florida) in an op-ed in the New York Times on 6 September 2013--

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/07/opinion/on-syria-vote-trust-but-verify.html?_r=0

Grayson claims that Mike Rogers, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, has directed that House members cannot make notes of the "summary", nor talk about what is in it. None of the alleged evidence of the dirty deed -- a chemical weapons attack -- is made available to the people's representatives in Congress, not even in the super-secret reading room. In fact, not even the Internet videos that are available to the world are itemized so that the Representatives or the people can look at them to see what, if any, evidentiary value they have.

We can safely guess that the "classified summary" is like the "assessment" released to the public -- nothing but conclusory statements. No audio recordings of intercepted conversations or any other evidence is being produced.

Thus, the U.S. Congress is being asked to vote to launch a war based on no evidence, because the members of Congress have not seen any of the evidence and to date the executive branch is not letting them see anything.

Vietnam Vet, confusedponderer, and others have noted above ambiguities about Alan Grayson. He does favor Israel, but in this instance, unless he is acting as a stalking horse of sorts, he can help gather and maintain liberal House members in the "no" column against a Syrian war. All assistance is needed to stop the war resolution, because Nancy Pelosi is a sophisticated vote counter and hard-nosed vote getter in the House, where she went from being speaker to minority (Democratic) leader without missing a beat, and she is going to do all she can to help Obama and get the monstrous resolution passed.

jon

Thank you Col., and your colleagues for this crucial letter. I'm sure you represent the feelings of many others who lack the courage or ability to state these things publicly.

I have been surprised at the continued lack of tangible evidence presented, or discussion of how the US has come to be so firmly convinced of Assad's culpability. Perhaps there really is a smoking gun. But if we are to engage in an unprovoked act of war against another country, we citizens and our representatives have a right to be informed and to participate in that decision.

It is shocking that the US seems determined to strike before the UN inspectors have completed their investigation, before other evidence might be found and analyzed. It is also shocking that our Secretary of State reaches first for military solutions, rather than diplomacy and humanitarian remedies.

As a former soldier and district attorney, Kerry should understand the risks of open-ended military actions without clear, achievable goals; and he should also know that firmer cases and more evidence is usually needed to convict a common thief, much less for a capital crime. In surprising contrast, the Joint Chiefs of Staff seem reticent in their assignments of blame and thirst for action.

Assad has reacted in this war with needless cruelty and wanton destruction. But I find it hard to imagine that he would use chemical weapons in his own capital city, on the eve of a previously scheduled visit by a WMD inspection team. At a site where he could provide access. Having been publicly alerted that further use of chemical weapons would bring the US into the war on the rebel side. Rebels we have already been assisting.

This could be an opportunity to impose a cease fire, or to remove chemical weapons from Syria, or to identify who used and authorized chemical weapons use and bring them to trial. It could be the means to wind down the conflict. Instead we seem eager to to inflame and enlarge it. And that can only lead to more slaughter, more deaths of innocents, more refugees, and a more bitter and intractable problem.

I thought Obama was going to cement his legacy as a President who had ended two wars on his own terms, and started none. Instead, he may gratuitously bring war to Lebanon, Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and Israel, and put new life into an Al Qaeda that has been reduced to a shadow of its former self. It is unlikely to leave the world a safer place for the US, to build our stature or produce good will.

D

https://www.nsfwcorp.com/dispatch/putin-saudi-arabia/8cb6df719a291a2b57a654dc7260bebf4e43c40d/

One wonders....
FkDahl

optimax

I saw some hews hack mock the Pope for being against the war. Disgusting.

Menshevik

When I read through that piece by Ray McGovern, I recalled seeing that phrase,"“a war-changing development,” elsewhere, recently. http://www.globalresearch.ca/did-the-white-house-help-plan-the-syrian-chemical-attack/5347542 by
Yossef Bodansky . Compare paragraphs in Bodansky's piece with McGovern's. "On August 13-14, 2013, Western-sponsored opposition forces in Turkey started advance preparations for a major and irregular military surge. Initial meetings between senior opposition military commanders and representatives of Qatari, Turkish, and US Intelligence [“Mukhabarat Amriki”] took place at the converted Turkish military garrison in Antakya, Hatay Province, used as the command center and headquarters of the Free Syrian Army (FSA) and their foreign sponsors. Very senior opposition commanders who had arrived from Istanbul briefed the regional commanders of an imminent escalation in the fighting due to “a war-changing development” which would, in turn, lead to a US-led bombing of Syria.
The opposition forces had to quickly prepare their forces for exploiting the US-led bombing in order to march on Damascus and topple the Bashar al-Assad Government, the senior commanders explained. The Qatari and Turkish intelligence officials assured the Syrian regional commanders that they would be provided with plenty of weapons for the coming offensive.

Indeed, unprecedented weapons distribution started in all opposition camps in Hatay Province on August 21-23, 2013. In the Reyhanli area alone, opposition forces received well in excess of 400 tons of weapons, mainly anti-aircraft weaponry from shoulder-fired missiles to ammunition for light-guns and machineguns. The weapons were distributed from store-houses controlled by Qatari and Turkish Intelligence under the tight supervision of US Intelligence." Bodansky.


"In addition, we have learned that on August 13-14, 2013, Western-sponsored opposition forces in Turkey started advance preparations for a major, irregular military surge. Initial meetings between senior opposition military commanders and Qatari, Turkish and U.S. intelligence officials took place at the converted Turkish military garrison in Antakya, Hatay Province, now used as the command center and headquarters of the Free Syrian Army (FSA) and their foreign sponsors.

Senior opposition commanders who came from Istanbul pre-briefed the regional commanders on an imminent escalation in the fighting due to “a war-changing development,” which, in turn, would lead to a U.S.-led bombing of Syria.

At operations coordinating meetings at Antakya, attended by senior Turkish, Qatari and U.S. intelligence officials as well as senior commanders of the Syrian opposition, the Syrians were told that the bombing would start in a few days. Opposition leaders were ordered to prepare their forces quickly to exploit the U.S. bombing, march into Damascus, and remove the Bashar al-Assad government..." McGovern et. al. w/the others in the Steering Group, of the Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity .

johnf

Thank you for this, Colonel.

confusedponderer

"Even if he still supports "arming the rebels", his opposing the planned Obama attack may help prevent the outbreak of the wider war"

Granted, that'd be 'good enough'.

Ulenspiegel

If you check the LD50 values of a nerve gas like sarin and the explosives in thermobaric devices then you have a difference of many orders of magnitude, add the small payload of the rockets suspected to be the delivering system, and a large scale killing by toxic chemical compounds in thermobaric devices becomes for me as chemist not a very useful explanation.

To my best of knowledge, atropine does not work in case of an ethylene oxide poisening.

The tricky part, when sarin was used, is to get hard proof a few days/weeks later, it is quite volatile and not very stable.

Cosmoskitten

@Eliot

You also need an expert on blast effects, wich are the main damage mechanism in FAEs. Primary blast injuries are nothing most doctors are familiar with.

Blast Injuries: Biophysics, Pathophysiology and
Management Principles
CL Horrocks

http://www.ramcjournal.com/content/147/1/28.full.pdf

r whitman

The MSM is finally getting it:
http://news.yahoo.com/lingering-doubts-over-syria-gas-attack-evidence-072755287.html

twv

I just thought of a problem:
As they ferociously kill each other over there and expecting to go to Allah and receive their 76 (or some such) virgins, won't the virgin supply eventually run out?
Then, what will they do?

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