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25 August 2013

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RetiredPatriot

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/25/world/middleeast/egypt-widens-crackdown-and-meaning-of-islamist.html

As time goes on, it sure looks like the "deep state" is making it's return. One wonders if they could have left Mubarak in prison until at least all the leftist leaders and student youths were in jail. I wonder how long it will be before the NDP is reborn with a new name?

Bill H

"Participants in social media such as Twitter, Facebook, and so forth, may chatter away about “change,” but too often popular idealism is the prisoner of the moment, and can hardly be a basis for governing."

Well put. I have often wondered how the "Facebook revolution" was expected to actually translate even into an actual constructive movement, much less a government. Chatter limited to 140 characters is not communication. Occupy Wall Street could agree on where to meet, but not on what to do once they met there. In 140 characters we can agree what to tear down, but we cannot agree on what to replace it with.

William R. Cumming

There is a vast shortage of serious people interested in governance as opposed to greed world wide. Egypt is no different than other nation-states that have failed to find an effective long term formula in any guise that can avoid capture by some individual or group that believes it has the right answer.

Thanks Richard for a very thoughtful post.

Babak Makkinejad

I would not call it a "Tragedy".

Here the various protagonists and antagonists were not engaged in a supreme moral struggle to do the right thing, and after having expended their utmost humanly possible efforts, being thwarted by Destiny (ordained by gods).

It is best described as a Comedy; again in the (Ancient) Greek sense.

JMH

Thank you again Mr. Sale; your historical scope is refreshing in a world of myopia and expedience.

turcopolier

babak
I would call it a "tragicomedy" as in "The Tempest." pl

Charles I

For a lighter moment watch Paul Mazursky's movie version with John Cassavetes, Gena Rowlands, Susan Sarandon and a simply magnificent Raul Julia as Kalibanos

YT

Folks ought to read more Greek Classics.

& adopt the Stoic Nature of the Ancients.

herb

Robert Fisk interviews Anwar Sadat (the assassinated leader's nephew), who has some very insightful comments: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/people-think-they-made-a-big-mistake-electing-morsithey-hate-the-brotherhood-8782787.html.

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