A Secular Egyyptian Anthem for Obama

 

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Comments

[Fred]

Not quite the "Happy Birthday" song Obama was expecting but I'm sure Samantha Powers will be singing a different tune in his ear. I especially liked the 2 minute mark. Those 30,000,000 Egyptians should carry a bit more weight than a "former activist turned bureaucrat" (which is how the LA Times puff piece describes her).

[Alba Etie]

Col Lang
Ouch ...

[Babak Makkinejad]

But ultimately it is the Egyptians that are responsible for all of this not Obama.

[Charles I]

Wow that's edifying. That woman threatened the president, never mind my daddy, shouldn't there be an invasion?

[Alba Etie]

Also found it interesting that the anthem called out Turkey 's Erdogan and Qatar too .

[Matthew]

Here's the kind of "call out" I like: dismantling the un-elected deep state. See http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/08/05/317312/turkey-exarmy-chief-gets-life-in-prison/

[Matthew]

That video is genius. Every pathology in Egypt is contained within its dissonant chords.

I'm also amused by the reference to the Egyptian Army being "very strong". Really? Its sole achievements over the last 40 years has been shooting unarmed protesters and enforcing a food blockade on Gaza.

BTW, did this talentless harpy ask Israel's permission before making this video? The "very strong" army of Egypt does that for everything.

[turcopolier]

Matthew

Egyptian society IS pathological from your point of view. All parts of it are pathological. the woman involved is an aged professional entertainer. You may not like her style of quivering and singing but the Egyptians do. When she says that the Egyptian Army is "strong" she means that within the context of her society, they are the most determined to preserve the country as a mixed secular state populated mostly by Muslims of relative moderation. Few Egyptians think the armed forces are a serious combat force in the international context. You continue to favor the enemies of modernism in Egypt. I am surprised. Mursi was elected without benefit of constitutional sanction. What makes this medieval survivalist so precious to you? pl

[Will Reks]

Part of the problem seems to be that the Obama WH has been keen to observe the democratic "process" in the Western ideal over what Egyptians want for their country. I don't believe that Obama actually cares for Morsi or the MB but they remain blind to the realities on the ground in Egypt. I understand the Egyptians' contempt for our government but this will likely endanger our relations.

[turcopolier]

Will Reks

This video? Nah! US/Egyptian relations rest on the need for some influence, however meager, in Egyptian affairs. the US will soon accept the inevitable and will eventually come to love President Sisi. pl

[Matthew]

Because "managed" democracy is the ultimate democratic heresy. And a self-defeating heresy at that. Morsi was heading for failure before the army overthrew him. Good. He could have been voted out in a landslide.

I want Political Islam to fail. It may fail, for example, on its own accord in Tunisia. Also good.

But it won't fail (like Marxism failed) so long as coup-ists continue to manage the political process. The Army could have told Morsi that if he tried to ban other political parties or to push back elections he would be removed.

Unfortunately, they didn't do that.

How will the Egyptians ever mature politically if they are shielded from the consequences of their own electoral mistakes?

[Matthew]

Why not? President Obama has certainly come to love Israel and its government.

[turcopolier]

Matthew

Egyptians will probably never "mature." It isn't in them to do so. Do you think Erdogan will give up power willingly? pl

[Matthew]

Col: I don't know enough to answer your question. But every politician is a potential Mandela or Mugabe. The question is, will the Turkish people let him stay if he loses his mandate?

[turcopolier]

Matthew

That is utter nonsense. Did Hitler or Mussolini have a Mandela buried within them. for that matter did Huey Long? Political Islamism's basic tenet is the acquisition and permanent retention of absolute power in order to create God's kingdom on earth. Everything else is tactics. Erdogan is busy re-creating the Turkish security forces to his own purpose. What do you think that is about? pl

[elkern]

The more interesting - and rare - cases are the Gorbachevs & DeKlerks who negotiate away power to avoid disaster.

[JohnH]

This looks like parody. Egyptians are famous for joking around and making fun of themselves. Here she gets to strut around and show how strong Egypt is. Right!

[turcopolier]

JohnH

It looks like parody to you because you don't know Egyptians. Get over it. We are a joke. pl

[Babak Makkinejad]

So did Ortega.

[Alba Etie]

Col Lang
Do we have any idea what Sen McCain & Senator Lindsay hope to accomplish by visiting Egypt ?

[turcopolier]

rick

The negative esthetic reaction to this singer among some of our readers is indicative of the gap of alienation and difference between Egyptians and Americans. pl

[Matthew]

Col: Maybe it's just cyncism. When phony "color" revolutions are sold as popular uprisings, it's hard to trust anyone--or take their positions at face values.

Yes, the MB are hopeless, but the "liberals" are not liberal.

Example: http://news.antiwar.com/2013/08/05/egypt-claims-assassination-plot-against-coup-leader/

[Medicine Man]

I rather agree with Babak on this one. Though the WH's fumbling has been scorn-worthy regarding Egypt, it is the Egyptians who are most responsible for the shape of their nation.

[turcopolier]

Babak and Medecine Man

I absolutely agree that the Egyptians (all of them) are responsible for their situation. I hope I had made that clear. pl

[Medicine Man]

Col.: You did. I was commenting more on the US' dual role as global cop and global scapegoat.