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19 July 2013


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Col: If Obama does not stand up for General Demspsey, let's hope General Dempsey retires instead of accommodating himself to idiocy.

Alba Etie

Does anyone know exactly what Senator McCain hopes to glean from this obstructionist stance regarding General Dempsey .

Alba Etie

Col Lang
I have for a time been positing here at SST that we could be in the midst of a course correction re misbegotten neo con policy such as removing Assad the Younger . Perhaps General Dempsey's renomination fight will be a test of the theory that we are seeing a course correction . If President Obama stands and fights for Dempsey then we know we may very well be seeing the Realist having impact - more then say Samantha Powers .At least that is what my "auto didactic part time studies " assessment is - that the Realist are winning the policy debate. ( But I do sense Jonst waiting in the wings to reboot the "Don't Get Fooled Again - youtube video should Gen Dempsey not get through the Senate, ).


Alba Etie

My guess is that his behavior is the result of the worm of envy eating at his guts over Obama, that and ever advancing nuttiness, pl


Alba Etie said..."

"that we are seeing a course correction ."

There are no course corrections. the crowd in dc and their arrogance (self importance) is simply off- the charts.. if there is to be any course correction (domestic or foreign) issue, it can only come from 'we the people'. Unfortunately, the people are sound sleep at the wheel. Perhaps when the pain level is high enough, otherwise, dc people are out of touch with reality and the mess will continue.. the rhetoric might change, not policy... The SF are present in jordan and turkey busy training!!!! and weapons are getting around too..


William R. Cumming

The selection of an unqualified running mate should have long ago ended the story of J. McCain.


No idea. But General Dempsey's integrity is worth more than re-appointment. I hope he doesn't pull a Samantha Power and recant common sense just to get (keep) the job.

As you may know, I have been desperately seeking George C. Marshall's successor in American life. It is a long, lonely search.


And I recall - as a Marine Corps judge advocate back in the day- a lot of questions about McCain when he came back from POW status. His actions and broadcasts for the NV govt were the cause of a lot of questions by JAG and intel folks reviewing such things. And recall his strange and offensive actions against POW families- he continuously blocks release of documentation that POW families want released - that might embarrass him. Perhaps a review of McCain's actions as a POW might be useful at this point. Or at least the threat thereof.


Obama's problem is that he caved to Republican blackmail in the first days of his administration, even though Democrats controlled both Houses of Congress. From that experience McCain learned that Obama has no spine.

In that instance, there was a coup in Honduras. Obama was in Colombia and called it a coup. Jim DeMint put a hold on Obama's State Department nominees. Otto Reich, McCain's Latin American adviser in 2008 was adamantly opposed to Zelaya. Both McCain and the International Republican Institute (IRI)get big bucks from AT&T, Reich was a lobbyist for AT&T, and Zelaya was holding up AT&T's bid to buy the government's telephone monopoly and the opportunity to earn monopoly profits.

Obama never again mentioned the word coup in relation to Honduras. And Republicans knew that Obama would heel whenever they threw a tantrum on foreign policy.


I think McCain is done. His last election had him running to the Right in the primary claiming that he'd vote against amnesty in any form. You may remember him walking with Sheriff Paul Babeu (a good man) saying 'build the dang fence'.

I've seen McCain in person and he looks terrible. His town halls have been him engaging in screaming matches with ranchers and others asking him hard questions about the amnesty treason. Not exactly good politics.

Alba Etie

Col Lang
It is truly tragic to see Senator McCain spiral out of control . Many of us worked hard for his nomination back in 2000 when Sen McCain was still making common sense & common cause with such noble goals as getting the bribe money out of politics - remember McCain-Feingold ? It was very difficult to run against Pappy Bush's rolodex. And for the record we had always wished many of us; that the Bush Scion that ran in 2000 could have been Jeb .
Would've , could've , should've ...

Alba Etie

Will at least we have not yet sortie against Nantanz with the IDF . Or imposed a no fly zone in Syria based out of Incirlik .

Alba Etie

"Look I can see Russia from our front porch, also too"

William Fitzgerald

One good indication in the tea leaves is that, in the picture of General Dempsey testifying before congress, he's not wearing an array of ribbons and badges extending from his collar bone to his waist.



Willam Fitz-
General Dempsey has always worn just the two-rows of ribbons, as opposed to those like Petreaus, who remind us of the generals of the former Soviet Union, whose chests were festooned with ribbons, orders and medals.


Two other things to note about General Dempsey's uniform- he wears the CIB- Combat Infantryman Badge. And check his right sleeve- see the Army Overseas Service Bars - each one for six months service in a combat zone. He has seven.



That's not the CIB. It is something called the Combat Action Badge. Many in the army are not eligible for the CIB no matter how much combat they have been in. It is a question of what MOS you were serving in and at what echelon, i.e., up to brigade when you were in combat. Dempsey was an Armor offcier before he was a general and would not have been eligible. pl


General Dempsey has been a breath of fresh air but another two years is probably not in his or our best interests. I would tell him to hold his ground with the curmudgeon McCain and turn down the opportunity, resign and retire to Arizona. Then after a period of reflection mount a campaign for Senate so the good state of Arizona is held in higher regard.


Col is it possible that we have the equivalent of just such a "group" today made up of neocon vetted members of our political class that are the equivalent of "the Joint committee on the Conduct of the War. This group regularly "examined" the conduct and opinions of officers for the purpose of ensuring ideological purity and zeal for the fight. "

Was what Chuck Hagel and Samantha Powers were subjected to ...to ensure ideological purity of the Neocon ideology that is our Gov't today? They were both inspected rather vigorously for their ideological stance with regards the support for protecting our only ally and bff (best friends forever) in the middle east.

Would a man of Military Honor like Gen Depsey subject himself to such a show for the purpose of keeping a post?


McCain has AIDS - Acquired Irrelevancy Syndrome.

McCains only worthwhile life experience has been war in my opinion and he sees everything in terms of waging war because such a state allows him plenty of opportunities to pontificate.

So when he meets a soldier who is not as anxious as he is to be at war, he gets upset.


McCain epitomizes the adage: "nothing succeeds like failure in Washington."

McCain was involved in 5 military plane crashes, two not his fault, three shrouded in mystery. (His father was an admiral and Commander-in-Chief, Pacific Command [CINCPAC], commander of all naval forces in the Vietnam theater from 1968 to 1972.

McCain probably holds some sort of personal record for most naval aircraft lost during the last 50 years. Most people with such a record (and cost to the Navy) would have been consigned to oblivion.

But, being the namesake of a powerful person, he foisted his propensity to crash and burn onto the American people.


John H- McCain also benefited in getting into the Naval Academy, and more important, staying there, due to his family's interventions. One year he was about to go over the limit for demerits, which would have resulted in his expulsion. His mother went to talk to the Superintendent, an old family friend, and voila- demerits from an earlier offense were expunged, allowing him to stay in school.
BTW, his grandfather was also a four-star admiral.


More evidence that our governing class actually has contempt for us--this insult will go unpunished: http://www.timesofisrael.com/pm-asked-us-to-free-pollard-as-incentive-for-entering-peace-talks/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Alba Etie

May Pollard rot in Jail forever amen,


Well here's Dempsey's response to Senator Levin:


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