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22 June 2013

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The beaver

Colonel,

For my own education:
"IMO, they are not even Muslims. Muslims do not worship a tri-partite god"

Are they like the Kurdish sect : Yezidis ?

turcopolier

Beaver

They are equally heterodox. The Yazidis worship a strange angelic divinity even while claiming to somehow be Muslims. The Druze are yet another sect that once were related to Ismaili shiism but have strayed far the "path." They, too, believe in a trinitarian arrangement but a different one. pl

walrus

LA Times reports that American SFf have been training Syrian rebels since 2012. Why am I not surprised?

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/middleeast/la-fg-cia-syria-20130622,0,4448399.story

russ

Much less celebrate Christmas and Easter and drink wine.

turcopolier

walrus

This makes the question of whether or not CIA was exporting weapons from eastern Libya more interesting. pl

Eliot

The trinity arrangement in Alawi faith, is that a Christian influence?

Tyler

The Yezidis worship a being known as the 'Peacock Angel' who was once the Devil, but redeemed himself after regretting the evil he did and crying for 13 days and cooling the Earth with his tears.

I remember them from Iraq for two reasons. One, the Muslim interpreters referred to them as 'devil worshippers', much like Lovecraft did in "The Horror of Red Hook" because of the Malik Taus/Peacock Angel connection.

The second was that the women were absolutely gorgeous.

maryam

Col Lang,

The word is ( Shabbiha) and not (Shabiha) and it does not mean (ghosts) as the author of this article claims..it originally referred to a torturer who stretched a man between 2 pieces of wood in preparation for flogging, it is now used in dialect to refer to hired executioners.

Regardless of the military outcome, it is a bad move on the part of the Syrian government to have foreign fighters so visible in the area, unless, as many are saying, the whole situation in Syria is run now openly from Iran whose central bank just extended a billion dollars credit line to support the depreciating syrian pound.

In the interest of full disclosure at this point, I am a physician who is collaborating at the moment with a couple of non-profit US- based medical relief organization that have been extending help to Syrian refugees in Turkey, Jordan and to innerly displaced refugees inside Syria. What we are seeing in addition to the influx of war-related injuries is that the few clinics set up by medical relief organizations have become the de-facto healthcare providers in large areas where the health-infrastructure has collapsed, my own focus at the moment is the impact of war on the civilian population.

turcopolier

Maryam

Yusuf is a university educated native speaker of Arabic. I believe he attended university in the Arab World. I would be surprised of he does not know the difference etween the fist and second "measures" of sh-ba-ha. pl

turcopolier

tyler

There are a number of "pockets" of beautiful women around the world. Parsi women are equally beautiful. pl

turcopolier

kxd

We await your return. An RAF acquaintance once rebuked me for America's tendency and desire to "steal" the best people from overseas. I asked him when we should expect his arrival. He said that he appreciated the sentiment. pl

turcopolier

Eliot

I think that is true but such things are lost in time. The Muslim use of masabih (rosaries) is probably another accretion from Christianity. The symbols of the "Hand of Fatima" and the blue "evil eye" used as charms are probably older than any of the three "heavenly religions." pl

kxd

Thank you Col, I appreciate the sentiment as well.

cloned_poster

religion smidgin

turcopolier

CP

"Religion smidgin" Means what? pl

maryam

Col Lang,

Anyone can make a mistake, Yusuf is mistaken.

Yusuf is welcome to consult the Lane English-Arabic dictionary of the trilateral root for SH-B-H to see the difference.

The beaver

Thank you Colonel and Tyler for the clarification.

Tyler: IIRC I once saw a documentary either from BBC or French TV (go both when I was growing up in some parts of Sub-Saharan Africa) that Druze also used to pray to "Lucifer",that name stuck to my childhood brain since then. May be I got the sect wrong and it was the Yazidis

David Habakkuk

As: Martin Bashir, Piers Morgan, Simon Schama, Niall Ferguson.

Some of us were very sorry when Anatol Lieven left. However, he was pushed out of the Carnegie Endowment, on the grounds that he was anti-Semitic. So now he is home again.

turcopolier

David Habakkuk

I don't understand the connection to Lieven. pl

Babak Makkinejad

You wrote:

"...the whole situation in Syria is run now openly from Iran..."

Am I am so blessed to see the return of the days of the Great King?

Please tell me, when will the Persians be back in Athens after 2300 years?

Babak Makkinejad

That is what I always said: instead of complaining about brain-drain, put your money where your mouth is and make them (the brains) an offer they cannot refuse.

Babak Makkinejad

It was the Yazidis.

Babak Makkinejad

One of my teachers in high-school explained the origin of tasbih/roasaries in this manner:

The Prophet, when delivering his sermons, noticed that Arabs sitting on the floor were playing with their testicles (absence of under-garments ?).

Considering that to be an activity not befitting the Believers, rather than admonishing them directly, a few days late he showed up with a few clay beads strung together; passing one bead saying "Sobhan-o Allah", passing another bead saying "Al Hamd al Allah" etc.

Arabs emulated the Prophet, him being the Messenger of Allah and all that, and so started the usage of rosaries in Islam.

I do not know the veracity of this story: Allaho A'alam!

I noticed that the Christian Greeks rosary is actually the same as what Muslims use and is not at all like the one used by Catholic Christians.

turcopolier

Babak

I like the thing about the testicles. I would observe that the Muslims first encountered the Byzantine Greeks and indeed lived with them as overlords as in the Case of St. John of Damascus. pl

Fred

This was good for a chuckle. I suspect you could be there Monday morning if you bailed out the current Greek government.

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