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06 April 2013


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The Twisted Genius

"out there somewhere beyond the horizon of our dreams."

I like that. I imagine if you saw a spot on your chart that said "here be dragons," you'd immediately plot a course to that exact spot. I know I would.

Just out of curiosity, I found and read this account of an encounter between a lake steamer and a strange creature on Seneca Lake in 1899. There were a lot of prominent people on that steamer who stuck by their detailed accounts of the incident. Either that was a boatload of master bullshitters or they encountered a lake monster. I remember the story of the coelacanth. They were thought to be extinct since the time of the dinosaurs until one was caught in 1934.


My interest in Seneca stems from some time I spent at Seneca Army Depot in the early 80s supporting the deployment of Pershing II missiles to Europe. For a short time I was seconded out there to advise on security in the face of massive demonstrations from some womens' group for peace and freedom. They were suspected to be in receipt of some Soviet funding. Among the group were a large number of self proclaimed witches. One day I stood alone some 50 feet from the fence as the witches appeared to be casting spells my way. In response I began some elaborate gestures accompanied by some deep mumbling. My attempt to impersonate a powerful shaman worked. The witches rapidly moved out the way trying to avoid my ominous gestures. The force of a Green Beret shaman was just too much for them.

Jim Ticehurst

Genius...What a Great Twisted Story...LOL..Thanks for the laugh...

Mark Logan

I wish I could share some tale of the Sasquatch from all my traipsing around in the woods of the NW, but I can't, not personally. Never seen a trace. Never met anyone who had. If they were here, they have moved on, the tale of the 1924 miners near Mt. St. Helens at Ape Canyon notwithstanding. The mountains are criss-crossed by so many people these days. Loggers, hikers, hunters, and, God help us, now "panners" (and thank you oh so much very much for that, Gold Bugs) that it's just no way.

However, there still lives a cadre of the famous climbers who did so much in the Himalaya's in the 60's and early 70's. There are a couple of them who will say in private conversations saw things there they can't explain.

"Bigfoot, no. Yeti, maybe."


"I'm sure I've never seen a Bigfoot."


That's pretty hilarious, no kidding.

Charles I

Great story, replayed on Larry David show, where some loud boob on a cell phone in a restaurant provokes Larry into having a very loud conversation with himself to shut the guy up. The boob was less less responsive than the witches.

Charles I

I eat my words from the earlier thread about photographic evidence. . .

SAC Brat

As far as the Seneca Lake monster, my grandfather lived at the south end of the lake. I wouldn't put it past his Shriners buddies to entertain themselves....

It's rumored that the Finger lakes connect deep underground, but that should have been sorted by now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seneca_Lake_%28New_York%29 mentions sunk canal barges over the years. And swamp gas.



I was inducted into the M'nong Gar and S'tieng montagnard tribes at ceremonies where I was painted up like "a Green Beret shaman" The tribesmen loved it. So did I. pl


Charles I

If you referring to the picture at the top of the "Lake Monsters" post, this is supposedly of Champ," the Lake Champlain critter. I have heard the woman who claims to have taken it speak f the occasion in the 80s when she, her husband and two children saw this thing and she photographed it using a Kodak box camera. She doesn't seem to be someone who would fabricate this. Skeptics claim that it is a floating log. Some investigators who are sonar people say there is something in the lake that echo-locates. pl

different clue

Many years ago I read a book on the possibility of large manlike creaters called Abominable Snowmen: Legend Come To Life. It was by a respected zoologist and leader of field-research and collecting expeditions for the British Museum named Ivan T. Sanderson. I don't remember the particulars this long after having read it. I only remember it being very well argued with various levels of possible evidence and theoretical speculation presented. I came away thinking that this all deserves more thought.
Here is a link to the book.


Sir Edmund Hillary saw Yeti footprints in snow on his first Everest climb.

Personally, I want to meet an ET. It could tell me the secrets of the universe.

Medicine Man

Hoist by their own petard.

Mark Logan

There are a lot of tribes with legends, and they have the bones of Gigantopithicus, it's more than the UFO people have. I wonder...

BTW, the 50th anniversary of Jim Whittaker's Everest summit is coming up. He's a live-aboard on the dock right next to the shop where that pocket cruiser TTG provided a video of was built. 50 foot ketch he and his family sailed around the world. Small world.

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