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03 February 2013

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schwifty

JFK and family might be shooting the same one here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwBEsLsEZHw

Perhaps the front sight and barrel porting were more recent additions. One of the conspiracies going around is that this must be a one-off photo op, because the second barrel wasn't choked. Identifying it as the Savage 24 puts the lie to that one.

oth

Not an expert, but it looks like a Browning my uncle had. Expensive and pretty as I remember. Of course, it's all photoshopped, black helicopters and aliens...

turcopolier

oth

Did the Browning have a front sight? pl

John Minnerath

Could be a Browning, sure not a Savage.
Those guys kept some nice high end shotguns in the gun room.
Too poor a picture to tell what it is for sure,
it's got a ventilated rib, looks like a hi viz front bead/sight.
Ported barrels obviously and takes screw in chokes, but the one for the bottom barrel is missing.Smoke pattern is sure weird, too much smoke too for a regular smokeless shot load.
Eisenhower built that skeet range back in the 50s, I think I saw a picture once that showed a trap house too.
He's sure never fit in with the skeet crowd, they were always the jacket and tie types.
Trap shooters are blue jeans and old flannel shirts.
Bid overalls for the hard core.

chunt02@msn.com

Baretta Silver Snipe w/vent rib?

Jim Ticehurst

I Read that its a 12 gauge Browning Citori....

mbrenner

The silliness of BO's trying to pose as what he isn't derives, I believe, from more than the usual puerile political calculations. There is evidence that ever since that wealthy young woman at Columbia broke with him, Barry has had a longing to be one among the patricians.It survived his marriage to be revived once in the White House. (He hired a notorious society designer from the Upper East Side of Manhattan to redecorate the private quarters, Michael Smith, the same man who did the $700 waste paper basket for that Wall Sreet swindler).

Doubtless he hankers an invitation to Balmoral to shoot grouse in the heather. Before the term is up, we may be treated to ap photo op of him playing polo with Prince Charles (or William) on the South Lawn of the South House.

Sadly, we have an insecure, immature man in the Oval Office.

oth

Not that I remember, but I didn't get to shoot it. Most of the family that hunts is into deer and deer blind drinking and I don't like them drunk without the guns. Always more drawn to the 'gentlemans' sport like pheasant, but never invited - they're not exactly snobbish, but I guess you have to pay to play, amateurs not wanted.

I googled browning and skeet pics and this looks right
http://www.ammoland.com/2012/08/browning-citori-725-awarded-field-stream-best-of-best-award/#axzz2Jtqjcr20

Eliot

It looks like a Browning Citori.

turcopolier

mbrenner et al

"wealthy young woman?" I agree. It's a Browning. Too high end for me. pl

The Twisted Genius

I bet the shotgun is government property that goes with the range at Camp David. Probably procured several presidents ago. And yes I'm sure it's way out of the price range of most of us unless you're an avid, lifelong shotgunner. Just another recreational activity available like badminton or croquet. Obama probably tried it as few times for shits and grins.

Stephanie

If Obama was truly pretending to ease and comfort with patrician amusements I expect he would have put more effort into developing his skeet shooting skills than the photograph suggests he has. I believe Mrs. Obama selected Smith. No doubt every elite interior decorator has worked for some unpardonably extravagant person or other - they wouldn't be elite if they hadn't.

harry

I looked up some pictures of people skeet shooting. Barack picture looks very different. He is not leaning into the gun. I assume this is all photo opp. Fine. I dont know what advantage he thinks this affords him, but if I was sympathetic towards organisations promoting gun ownership I would assume he was up to something I wouldnt approve of.

turcopolier

TTG

Yes. I imagine there is a gun locker and a range manager. I understand Ike had the shotgun range buit. Apparently there is a trap tower. IMO the staff does most of the shooting during the week. I'll trade them my old Savage 24D for that gun. He will do just as well with mine if he ever wants to shoot again. pl

Fred

Of course this is politically calculated. At least here there are some actual questions about what type of shotgun this is amongst people who shoot. I imagine most of the political blogosphere is busy wasting time and energy while Obama goes on his road show. Meanwhile no bankers being jailed, actual policy questions related to backing salafists in Syria and opposing them elsewhere. Not to mention the debt negotiations, sequester and real defense budget cutting. Too much smoke, no mirrors might describe this best.

Nightsticker

Colonel Lang,

That is a very curious smoke effect.
More like a "blank" round than anything
I can think of.

Nightsticker
USMC 65-72
FBI 72-96

turcopolier

nightsticker

it does seem like a lot of smoke. and what is that sideways plume from behind the muzzle? pl

John Minnerath

The smoke showing at the side is coming from the ports.Ported barrels are pretty common, they reduce recoil.
The smoke from the ports looks strange, but this seems to be the only photo available from that session.
It might have been the light, the position of the photographer, who knows.
I've been a shotgunner for about 60 years and it does look like a blackpowder load, but hell, the photog could have just done a touch of enhancement thinking more smoke showing looked more exciting.

Charles I

Guy can't win, claims he shoots, call him a liar. Rebut the lie, he's a poseur. Politics as usual.

Clifford Kiracofe

Seems to be a Browning. Citori model made since 1973, the older over under model was the "Superposed" which was sold into the 80s.

Top barrel seems to have their Midas Grade Extended Tube. Low rib, vented. Ported, thus smoke to side. Rubber butt pad.

Their current skeet and trap models have high ribs, vented. The clays models have low ribs, vented. Many with Schnabel forends but POTUS fingers cover this area in photo so hard to tell.

Was the smoke enhanced in Photoshop? Or put in to simulate firing? Butt is a bit high on his shoulder seeems to me, firing pretty level for skeet.

The situation does not seem to indicate the usual semi-circular skeet set up. Looks like some kind of road behind POTUS. Do they have a trap set up there also?

Tyler

They can arrest people for selling raw milk and find regulators in Lousiana to stop stores from selling milk too cheaply. Just goes to show you we're living in anarcho-tyranny.

turcopolier

John Minnerath

I am not a shotgunner. I have a coach gun and the Savage 24. I had a 12 gauge side by side when I was a kid. i don't think that was choked at all but may be wrong. pl

TexasTom

Methinks if he hopes for a Balmoral invite, he should be practicing with a side-by-side from a best maker. COL. Lang could advise of the appropriate arm.

Nightsticker

Colonel Lang,

I have set forth below a URL
to a YouTube video of a shotgun
shell "blank" being fired. You
will note a remarkable similarity
to the WH photo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwQEBSVWiG0&list=UU_YQSXZJV532lqXwsQfv-RQ&index=10

Nightsticker
USMC 65-72
FBI 72-96

John Minnerath

If you had an old SXS when you were a kid, it was probably choked Full and Modified. That was pretty much the standard.
A more open choke (modified) for a wider pattern on the first close in shot and a tight (full) for a smaller pattern on the second further away shot.
My favorite shotgun anymore is my old Ithaca model 37 Featherweight in 12 gauge. 28 inch barrel,vented rib, full choke. No porting on that old girl.
Even though that's a light gun, for some reason it seems to pick up a couple pounds every year. I've been thinking about getting another 20 gauge single shot, a lot of them only run about 5 pounds. Makes a long day tramping the field a lot easier on my old bones.

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