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14 November 2012


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Is there any significance to the evident fact that the models are not anorexic? What do you think would be the effect of bringing the show to Tampa? Would a color coordinated hijab add something - "a bikini d'urgence' as it was known in certain Tunisiam quarters.



They like their women to be voluptuous, and they are. pl

hans howe

Awesome how spectacularly these two 'geniuses' flunked such a basic IQ test.


Jill Kelley also goes by the name Jill Khawam, Gilberte J. Kelley, Gigi Khawam, Gigi Kelley


Is there anything known about the Khawam family roots in Lebanon? What town/sect/tribe/party do they belong to?

Jill Kelley and her husband need money. Who might she be working for?

Broadwell did not write the Petraeus biography. Washington Post editor Vernon Loeb, of Jessica Lynch hyping fame, was the ghostwriter. She just delivered the material and quotes. One wonders who writes her PhD thesis.

I read somewhere that she did some paratrooper qualification jumps with the IDF.


Who going to investigate? Who is not dirty? Whoever is not dirty willnot be allowed to investigate. This all the more so if the Tampa connection with the (cough, cough) Reconstruction Efforts in Iraq, especially the Private Investment Branch...iow, the privatization people, is established .

You have hope that there are good people in DC, who can be appointed? Good Col, glad to see you still have faith. I have none. Not with the crowd that is in charge of DC now...both parties.


"Juvenile irresponsibilty"? Seriously? I'd hit it.
My Maronite and Orthodox Lebanese friends are quite vocal that they are NOT Arabs.

The Moar You Know

"Is there some element of foreign government participation in this drama? I do not know but the investigation should be thorough."

The media is spinning the "sexytime" aspect of this so hard to the exclusion of all other questions that I am thinking there must be. The Kelleys are literally everything you get warned about WRT security breaches: huge debts, lavish lifestyle with no commensurate supporting income, over-the-top (successful) attempts to form personal relationships with high-ranking personnel, including seduction...the list goes on. And Petraeus is so linked with them he's filing amicus briefs with the court for her sister's custody battle.

Hope I'm wrong, doubt I am.


Broadwell is at the crux of all of this now. She made her statement about the detained prisoners after she was questioned about her affair with Petraeus, but before he testified to Congress that the Benghazi attack was linked to the Nakoula video. I've read in a few places that she was excited/jubilant while making the announcement. Was she ensuring her safety? Was she seeking her 15 minutes? Was she getting back at Petraeus for being 'unfaithful'?

The most interesting idea I've seen thus far is from JohnH in the last thread: was Obama using the scandal as payback for having his arm twisted to go COIN in Afghanistan, so his way would be clear to establish a more cooperative military? If so, a dish truly served cold.



I guess that mean that you are qualified to be a 4 star general. Seriously? Some Lebanese Christians argue that they are really Levantine rather than Arab. They have a point, but their native language is Arabic and they share many cultural characteristics with Lebanese, Syrian and Palestinian Muslims. pl


"Who really is Paula Krantz Broadwell?"PL...Col. can we call Eric Cantor, I don't know why, but I have a feeling he knows everything. imho,there is a strong whiff of "game theory" here.

ex-PFC Chuck

Don't worry. It will be investigated as thoroughly as the 2008 financial meltdown.


Yes, serious. I'll have to ask them more about it. I do know from weddings that the Maronite liturgical language is Syriac, not Arabic.



Liturgical languages don't mean much. other Arabic speaking Christians use Aramaic, Greek or ancient Egyptian for liturgy. We RCs used to use Latin. Don't let them BS you. They are really good at that. The westernized Christians are culturaly indistinguishable from the westernized Muslims. pl

judith weingarten

Phoenicians. The Christians always said they were Phoenicians until they lost the Civil War and had to accept that they were 'Arabs'.

The beaver



Jounieh Lebanon


Know why?
When push comes to shove, the difference between the Democrat/socialists and the stupid party (AKA Republicans) is less than a millimeter.

The real difference in this country is the alternate universe inside the Capitol beltway and America.
The politicians of both parties are slopping at the same trough.
I saw McCain and Graham on TV this morning DEMANDING answers and a "Select" committee.
It's all narcissistic posturing.

The beaver

Paula's brother Stephen Kranz lives in NW DC and he is a tax attorney .

Now we need to find out in which circle he makes friends.


Writing 40-some emails a day, how did Allen find time to write the character reference for the twin sister?
And run a war?
How do these knuckleheads get that far?
Out lasting the other suckups?

The beaver

According to the Telegraph:

"It also emerged in court documents that Mrs Kelley's brother-in-law was employed as a "consultant" by a private intelligence firm that carries out work for US intelligence agencies such as the CIA.

Working as an operative for EWA ITT, Grayson Wolfe, who is now estranged from Mrs Kelley's twin sister Natalie, travelled frequently Pakistan and took his wife to the Middle East in 2008, while Gen Petraeus was leading the war in Iraq."

NB: I read that it was splitsville for Grayson Wolfe and Natalie Khawan even before the first wedding anniversary.


What do you and your readers think of Justin Raimondo's take at antiwar.com, that this was classic honeypot? Raimondo documents his case pretty well. You will remember that Gen. Petraeus testified before Congress stating that Israel is a strategic liability in the Middle East to US interests, which did not endear him to certain entities. A quick look at some pro-Israel blogs (debbieschlusser.com) reveals a certain amount of glee at the General's departure, and only because he was not "good for Israel".


Interesting take on the Petraeus saga by Col. DOUGLAS MACGREGOR, Ret


The Moar You Know

(Reuters) - A computer used by Paula Broadwell, the woman whose affair with CIA director General David Petraeus led to his resignation, contained substantial classified information that should have been stored under more secure conditions, law enforcement and national security officials said on Wednesday.

Well, well, well.


Phoenician, Aramaic, Greek. Arabs is a cultural designation involving shared language, culture, food, etc. It was an invention of Greater Syrian Christians and taken up by the Sunni. Arabian means descent from the Hijaz or Arabian Peninsula.

In truth, the people of the Middle East are all mixtures of the above added to Turkish, Roman, and Jewish. The Palestinians are closer in their genetic testing to the Ashkenazi (european jews) and the Mizrhaim Jews then they r to each other. In Clade biology classification, this means they r closer to the ancestor of these groups, the original Jews, then the modern Jews.

Genetics can be interesting. 23andme says i am 2.5% Neanderthal. Just call me caveman!


there is a theory that the Koran's "seventy virgins" comes from a Aramaic/Syriac religious document involving white raisins.


formerly the Arabic Bible was printed in Aramaic script. the first Arabic printing press was made by a Melkite (Greek Orthodox that recognize the primacy of the Pope) Monk.

"The first Arabic books published using movable type in the Middle East were by the Maronite monks at the Maar Quzhayy Monastery in Mount Lebanon. They transliterated the Arabic language using Syriac script. It took a fellow goldsmith like Gutenberg to design and implement the first true Arabic script movable type printing press in the Middle East. The Greek Orthodox monk Abd Allah Zakhir set up an Arabic language printing press using movable type at the monastery of Saint John at the town of Dhour El Shuwayr in Mount Lebanon, the first homemade press in Lebanon using true Arabic script. He personally cut the type molds and did the founding of the elegant typeface. He created the first true Arabic script type in the Middle East. The first book off the press was in 1734; this press continued to be used until 1899"



Is there some element of foreign government participation in this drama? I do not know but the investigation should be thorough.

We'll know if they shut it down prematurely. ;-)

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