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23 July 2012

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The Moar You Know

I thought the way this was supposed to work was that the Marines came in, killed everyone that needed it, and then the Army did the occupying/pacification. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong about this (and I likely am).

The most important takeaway:

"The US will not be occupying any more countries for quite a while."

I pray you're right. Our economy certainly can't handle it, although that's not my main concern. I think the effects on the polis are self-evident. This nation badly needs an across-the-board dose of humility and self-restraint.

turcopolier

TMYK

I suppose your view of this depends on your time scale. IMO the marines made their bones attacking fly speck sized Pacific islands each defended by entrenched Japanese. Bravo. The carnage was impressive. The Army did the serious killing in WW2.both in Europe and the Pacific. Go look at the number of Japanese dead in the Phillipienes in '44-'45. The "Corps's" larger history is all about colonial expeditions with a few thousand troops in China, Nicaragua, Haiti, etc. pl

Neil Richardson

Dear Col. Lang:

I am always amazed by the effectiveness of the propaganda. One could easily get the impression that the Marines broke out of the siege at Khe Sanh instead of waiting around for the First Cav to arrive.

mbrenner

We now are organizing and training 'elite' units in Ghana, Nigeria and Kenya to combat spin-off drug operations. This is another arrow in Africa Command's quiver. Have gun, money, & mandate: will go anywhere do anything. Supply looking for demand.

Would someone please enlighten me as to why drug cartels, wherever they operate, are a threat to the United States? Drug addiction on a mass scale is a threat to the United States, i.e. hard drugs - a category that does not include marijuana which is well proven to be far less addictive and hazardous than alcohol. So long as that demand exists, there will be suppliers. Decades of the 'drug war' have had zero effect - except for the tens of thousands who've been killed as a result in Mexico, Columbia, Honduras and - soon - Africa.

We have seen the threat; it is us here at home. A society that produces more drug users than any other in the developed world. By the way, here in California where I'm visiting marijuana 'criminals' are the largesdt category of prisoners in a penal system that costs more than the state's endangered higher education system.

turcopolier

mbrenner

These MPs will have their asses handed to them in anything other tha n a benign environment. pl

turcopolier

NR

Task Force Pegasus rode up the road to relieve them. pl

Fred

MB,

Those prisoners in the California penal system represent a steady cash flow stream to the for profit prison industry. We can't be 'soft' on 'crime' or somebody's business model goes right into the tank.

E L

Colonel;
"The US will not be occupying any more countries for quite a while." You might want to inform Romney's close advisors John Bolton, Dough Feith and assorted other unreconstructed neo-cons. They thrive on a straight diet of US armed imperialism. And now Romney's off to visit with his Wall Street buddy, Bibi. They'll mourn the fact that Obama won't pull the trigger on Iran and gleefully anticipate Romney getting his finger on the trigger. Iran should make a nice, little imperial adventure for Romney to demonstrate US international "moral" leadership. No more wimpy negotiations for the US; we'll give those mullah crazies a "whiff of grapeshot."

turcopolier

EL

You may be right but IMO the absence of funds and Romney's business background would prevent occupation commitments in his term. pl

steve g

To channel my ex-governor Jesse Ventura
and get a little conspiritorial, what if
these battalions are deployed in the USA
for the reasons outlined in their mandate?
A posse comitatus arguement against this
theory. Yes. But since 911 haven't we abrogated
or ignored many of our constitutional rights.
Habeus corpus, the executive option of imprison-
ing or assassinating American citizens anywhere
in the world for perceived threats to national
security, and NSA now monitoring all social
domestic traffic, including this message. Saw a
video a couple of months ago from Tampa Florida,
the Republican Convention site, of a joint task
force special ops demo on the Hillsborough River
downtown. A coordinated exercise with other groups
from various countries showcasing their skills and
equipment. The purpose was a glorified police action
against possible "terrorists" holding hostages etc.
Just a theory of course.

ked

the "a day late & a dollar short" circumstance underpins consultancy business models all around & within the beltway.

Lars

If you go to Intrade.com and look under "Foreign Affairs" and then under "Iran", you will see that not a lot of people are putting money on an attack on Iran. I consider opinions backed by personal money to be a better indicator.

The Moar You Know

Sir:

Thank you for setting me straight. There's a lot I don't know about military history - our own or anyone else's.

Charles

Okay, I just read the article and I may be a bit old fashioned but why is it so wrong for the tip of the spear to be about killing people and blowing stuff up? If we need to train police we can bring candidates from our "allied nations" to any of the thousands of police academies located in CONUS. The military should be the big stick part of our foreign policy. We should talk softly but let the world know that we are willing and able to unleash them to do the killing and blowing up if need be.
This is truely insane.

Basilisk

I seem to remember a helluva preparation of the battlefield via Arc Light.

turcopolier

charles

"the tip of the spear?" The USMC? Through most of their history they have been gate guards at naval bases and prisons, door guards fr admirals and presidents, legation guards, 50 man shipboard detachmnts to provide additional ship's gun crew's (as in "gunnery sergeant"), small landing parties and other minor duties. Their fatalities in the Mexican War were 25 killed. pl

Charles

Col,
Sorry that I wasn't clear. I was speaking of the military combat arms in general to include all services.
Regards,

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