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07 July 2012

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turcopolier

Hank P

It is further evidence of your self-righteousness that you think that anyone here is in favor of either of those things. pl

Tyler

"Apologist"? I'm not saying there was anything to apologize for. All I have to do is look in any major city where the black undertow raises its head (with the associated social ills that seem to follow blacks wherever they go) and I can look at the total and complete failure of 'integration' that continues to be shoved down our throats by white liberals who only care about how moral they appear. Much like you.

You didn't make any points Hank, that's the problem. There was nothing to refute when you're going on about how 'durr smaller states means more localized tyranny' while the Beltway Cocktail Crowd tells Arizona that 'no really immigration is going down so who are you going to believe me or your lying eyes'?

The thing is Hank, I deal with these people everyday. Eating Mexican food does not somehow make you more 'diverse' or 'multicultural' while you wall yourself up behind a whiteopia and make sure all the jardeneros are out of your gated community before the sun goes down.

But hey, I guess the victims of the Chandler Rapist (twice deported illegal immigrant who stalked young girls after getting done with his landscaping job) should just suck it up because....diversity!

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0114rapes-immigration0114.html?&wired

Tyler

It is always "for thee, but not for me" with these people, which is why the shit hitting the fan will be such a shock for them when their security bubble pops.

Brown is a bit more complicated I admit, but I stand by the fact that the Court overstepped because they were worried about being portrayed as big meanies like the Taney Court.

HankP

Um, did you read Tyler's response to me, especially the good part:

"All I have to do is look in any major city where the black undertow raises its head (with the associated social ills that seem to follow blacks wherever they go)"

Maybe I'm seeing things, maybe I'm not.

turcopolier

Hank P

Does not the NAACP say that the social ills that plague black communities ar eendemic? pl

HankP

Not sure who you're responding to here, since I'm not elite, I don't live in a gated community and my kid didn't go to a private school. But carry on.

HankP

I'm not sure, since I'm not a member and don't follow them that closely. I do know that I've met quite a few people (yes, in the liberal north and west) who seem to think that blacks have a problem because of their race rather than their socioeconomic condition. I don't care for that. Not sure how that makes me self-righteous, but everyone's entitled to their opinion.

turcopolier

Hank P

"Carry on." When I want advice I will ask for it. pl

turcopolier

Hank P

"I've met quite a few people (yes, in the liberal north and west) who seem to think that blacks have a problem because of their race rather than their socioeconomic condition."

Maybe they are sucking up to you. pl

HankP

That was in response to Tyler.

HankP

Ha! Doubtful, as I'm not nearly important or rich enough for anyone to care about my opinions on, well, anything (except computer systems, which I do get paid for).

Tyler

I also doubt you attend cocktail parties in the Beltway. Look at it in context and don't be obtuse because there are uncomfortable facts about your support of illegal immigration to make yourself feel holier than people you decide are racist.

Tyler

So you're denying that Rhodesia and South Africa went to hell after 'native rule' or are you blaming it on 'the evils of colonialism' or whatever the reason du jour is for liberals to try and explain why institutions that blacks take over go to hell?

Detroit was "the Paris of America" at the dawn of the 1900. Now its an urban warzone. So how's that 'integration' working out?

HankP

When you use expressions like "black undertow" and "gimmedat" you're really not making a good case for your argument. Same goes with pointing out where black politicians have screwed up without mentioning where white (or asian) politicians have screwed up. People can read what you wrote and draw their own conclusions.

Tyler

It makes the point, and your focus on the words other than the actual arguments behind them simply points out the weakness of your own argument which boils down to:

- point and stammer mock shock
- name calling ('you evil raycis!')

The fact is that Western civilization didnt need 'integration' or multicult to rise to the heights which it did, and once we started letting in cultural marxism, everything went to shit. Again, why did Rhodesia and South Africa go to shit once the whites left power, hank? No one is saying that whites are flawless, but we have certainly added much more than we have taken away.

If this kind of race realism makes you nervous, maybe you should hang up your purse before you faint.

HankP

If you can make the argument without the crypto-racist expressions, then why do you throw them in anyway? For shock value? Because it doesn't shock, it just makes it far less likely for anyone to take you seriously.

You're not a brave truth teller here, you're just repeating racist expressions and beliefs. If you're trying to persuade people, you're doing it wrong.

Tyler

Unfortunately for your hypothesis, I have indeed persuaded a few people.

Sorry, you dont set the rules on what can or cannot be said, so why dont you knock off the feminist shaming language and make an argument instead of constantly threatening to faint because of my (to you) no-no words?

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