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23 April 2012

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The Twisted Genius

Couldn't agree more. I thought the Supreme Court settled this when it said the Second Amendment applied to all individuals rather than only to well regulated militias. I view this issue much as I view gay marriage. If you don't want to do it, don't. No one is telling you that you must carry a firearm or enter into a gay marriage. Stop telling others that they can't do it.

I also hope edged weapons are included in the right to bear arms. A Florida court ruled that a high school kid was justified under the "stand your ground" law in stabbing his schoolyard tormentor to death. Good on him. I hate bullies.

Jake

"I'll give you my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead hands!" .......

Ben

ªThe attempt to use the Martin/Zimmerman case as propaganda for federal... gun control legislation is a total waste of time, and serves no purpose other than to irritate the hundred million plus gun owners in the United States...(Obama´s) thinly disguised position on the Second Amendment will cost him a lot of votes no matter what the Democratic Party platform says.ª

I missed the part of the story that mentioned anybody at the federal level, much less anybody anybody working for the President, attempting to enact gun control legislation.

turcopolier

Ben

Absolutely correct, and they won't. pl

Bobo

Not to Tread on Hallowed Ground but when is the NRA going to put forth a reasonable plan to reduce the amount of handguns available to punks, thugs, idiots etc in Urban areas. Huh.

Morocco Bama

"Take your stinking paws off of me, you damn dirty ape!"

Alba Etie

This is a non partisan issue . Even moderates like myself belong to the NRA. To paraphrase the tried and true gun owners saying 'probably more then I need but not as many as I want ." Moreover even though I do not go hunting hardly ever any more - I still buy ; every year the full boat hunting and fishing combination with all the stamps - that also supports gun ownership rights and just as important conservation .

turcopolier

Morocco Bama

Are you quoting someone? If so, who are you quoting? pl

turcopolier

Bobo

You don't like guns or gun rights? Well go out and get anti-gun legislation passed! I will laugh myself to death watching. pl

Alba Etie

My guess is Charlton Heston in the first Planet of the Apes - is that right MB ?

turcopolier

AE and MA

If that is true then the quotation was frivolous and inappropriate. pl

Alba Etie

Yes Col Lang I would agree

Bobo

I have no problem with guns or gun rights. I do have a problem with an organization (a very successful one) that uses all it's efforts to prevent a government from enacting reasonable legislation to take un-registered handguns or un-licensed users off the streets in urban areas. There has to be a reasonable answer to this situation and the NRA has to take a lead on this.

Tyler

When Eric Holder, the DoJ, and the ATF stop gunwalking ala Operation Fast and Furious to try and manipulate gun control policy.

Morocco Bama

PL, Alba is correct. It was a satirical addendum to Jake's quote. Every time I see that quote, I hear Chuck Heston saying it....and then I hear him saying what I quoted. He had such a distinctive voice and delivery.

steve

Stand your ground laws and laws denying the right of gun ownership are two distinct issues.

turcopolier

steve

That is correct. there will be no more discussion of the Zimmerman Case until it is resolved. pl

turcopolier

Bobo

"un-registered handguns or un-licensed users off the streets in urban areas"

We do not register guns in Virginia and we do not license users, and we will not. It is our right to legally oppose federal laws that would force us to do that. That is the purpose of the NRA. pl

Tyler

"Reasonable" means many things to many people.

It was considered "unreasonable" to Congress for a while for a person to be able to buy an AK47 or AR-15 because "those rifles are scary!" Look for one congresswoman trying and failing to describe what a barrel shroud was and why it was so dangerous it needed to be banned or restricted.

An armed citizenry is a good thing. Too many times those seeking to restrict guns in the name of safety are only seeking to do so because of their own fears or want to see guns only in the hands of those they decide should have them. Both are unacceptable.

turcopolier

Tyler

Try asking most such people to explain the difference between semi and fully automatic or what a revolver is. pl

optimax

Obama said in his campaign he thought it was a good idea to etch identifying numbers on the ammunition to be able to trace a bullet back to the buyer. This idea is brought up from time to time. Of course it would make ammunition prohibitely expense for the average person and would be easy for the criminal to circumvent. Much of what the government says it does for public safety is done to control the sheeple.

Guns are useful for personal protection but useless if it comes to a showdown with the G-men. One shot, a "yahoo!" and I'd be cut to peices.

Fred

When the family values crowd (and by implication the 'non' family values crowd) stop raising their kids to be punks, thugs and/or idiots?

John

I personally am more concerned with the erosion of the 1st, 4th, and 5th amendments and posse comitatus.

The idea of government (local, state, or federal) flying drones domestically to maintain order is of some concern to me. The militarization of police departments since 9/11 does not make me feel safer. Although I consider myself to be a law abiding person, I do not feel like the police are necessarily there to help me.

There is no stand Your Ground legislation in California (where I live). I think that if you kill someone in this state in self defense you will have significant legal problems.

I do not have a concealed carry permit and don't particularly feel the need for one. I have not felt that the waiting period and background check required to purchase a firearm are onerous; but the criteria for purchasing has become more stringent over the years especially the firearms safety demonstration when purchasing a handgun. Like someone said (maybe Ben Franklin) "No one is safe in their purse or person when the legislature is in session."

The weapons lying around in my gun safe are .22, 9mm, 5.56mm, 7.62mm. There's a pattern there I think.


Tyler

Sir,

Unless they've been around firearms, they really don't have a clue. They just know they've been told they're big and scary and that's enough for them!

Tyler

IIRC Obama also wanted to outlaw all semi auto weapons.

In a one on one showdown, yes, though Jack Ruby might argue with you there even though it cost him his wife and child.

I think AfPak proves that one man, one rifle, and one cause will defeat any number of drones and billions of dollars of military expenditures if you have the zeal. Seriously, what does the armament of the jihadis consist of in Afghanistan? RPGs, AK47s, mortars, and recoiless rifles.

I think your average radio shack nerd could figure out how to make an IED that would give DARPA fits.

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