"Egyptian Christians mourned their dead and berated the army on Monday after at least 25 people were killed when troops crushed a protest about an attack on a church in the worst violence since the uprising that toppled Hosni Mubarak.
Armored personnel carriers sped into the crowd late on Sunday to break up the demonstrators near the state television building. Videos posted on the Internet showed mangled bodies. Activists said corpses had been crushed by the vehicles.
Tension between Muslims and minority Coptic Christians has simmered for years but has worsened since the anti-Mubarak revolt, which has allowed the emergence of Salafist and other strict Islamist groups that the former president had repressed." Reuters
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"Has simmered for years?" What kind of a stupid joke is that? How about this? "Has simmered for a thousand years..."
This started as a Christian protest against a church burning. Police troops attacked the demonstrators. You can watch the videos of police armored vehicles delibereately running over demonstrators. Muslim Egyptians joined the fray and soon this was a three sided fight, with all against all.
Eternal Egypt! Eternal Egypt! Well, at least they don't have to put up with the Mubaraks any longer.
Everything will be better now. Pharaoh is gone. pl
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/10/us-egypt-copts-clashes-idUSTRE7981Q220111010
Way off topic, but FYI: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65531.html
Posted by: E L | 10 October 2011 at 12:40 PM
This is not unexpected; the depth of bigotism and prejudice in almost incocievable ...
Posted by: Babak Makkinejad | 10 October 2011 at 01:43 PM
Birth pangs of the new Middle East, how long before the peace treaty with Israel collapses? Bahrain is also looking good...
Posted by: Jose | 10 October 2011 at 02:38 PM
Coptic Christian about 10% of Egyptian population? The Coptics ruled Egypt for a while early in the last century?
Posted by: William R. Cumming | 10 October 2011 at 02:58 PM
WRC
Never, in any century, since the Muslim conmquest in the 8th Century AD. pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 10 October 2011 at 08:36 PM
E L,
Interesting how Huntsman is sooo willing to throw other people's children under the war bus. Huntsman appears to be little more than just one more 'empty suit keyboard player in a rock band'. Take a look:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Huntsman,_Jr.
Posted by: J | 11 October 2011 at 02:50 PM
Long shot : Conspiracy theory
Who believes that the church fire could be the work of a good arsonist from Israel, enough to create the religion divide between the Coptic followers and the fundies or MB after the push of Mubarak?
And the junta is too obsessed with power to realise that ...
Posted by: The beaver | 11 October 2011 at 03:26 PM
The beaver,
History regarding Israel stirring up internal angst & strife in surrounding nations, has a long and solid track record of Israeli nefariousness.
Posted by: J | 11 October 2011 at 04:28 PM
Yes, the Lavon affair is one such false flag operation that comes to mind. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_affair
Posted by: David | 11 October 2011 at 07:05 PM
Could it just be that as Monk Hedra said: "No one thought of verifying the information from us.” and everyone went on giving in to their fears and manipulation ?!
Egyptian priest says Coptic church was not attacked, admits to building violations
Posted by: Bruno | 12 October 2011 at 10:44 AM
Col. sir,
"Everything will be better now."
Fer real?
Am I wrong to say that the arab Christians are the ones who drive & sustain the economies of the various states in the mid-east?
& if they were to be driven away on a mass exodus to,say the U.S., who gets to gain from it all?
Will we see a repeat of what the Ölauge did to the Ararat way back when?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide
Guess these abba-dabbas are that steadfast in their distaste of other folk who are different from them in the matters of spiritual belief, conspiracies & manipulated fears aside.
Things will probably get WORSE before they get any better IMO.
Posted by: YT | 13 October 2011 at 06:45 AM
"arab Christians are the ones who drive & sustain the economies of the various states in the mid-east?"
There is no evidence to support this opinion.
It is precisely this type of perception, and in my opinion and experience that's what they are, that raises the level of hatred among local Arabs for their brethren of a different religion in the Middle East and North Africa.
I'v been living for over a year in Dubai and it is not uncommon to run into some Lebanese Christian or Egyptian Copt that will easily open up to a foreigner like me to express his disdain and contempt for Arab Muslims, portraying them as uneducated savages, dirty and uncivilized.
Don't be mistaken, the local Emiratis to whom I've spoken are fully aware of those sentiments. They seem to realize that for now those educated Christians contribute to the economy of the land and serve a purpose. As long as their attitude and disdain does not create any major disruption in the social and political fabric of the society, they can live with it.
It reminds me of the Jews of Algiers that started to differentiate and disassociate from their Arab Muslim countrymen once colonial France gave them and them only, the full status of citizenship under the Cremieux Edict.
And I'm not sure that as you suggest conspiracies and manipulated fears ought to be set aside; not in this case, not in any case in the ME where religion or culture is involved.
Posted by: Bruno | 14 October 2011 at 02:02 AM