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31 October 2011

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William R. Cumming

Did the Egyptians run out of SAGGERS?

Green Zone Cafe

I suppose too many Israelis were involved in these actions to allow any artistic license, including editing.

It's like the complaints that Iraq veterans had over the inaccuracies of The Hurt Locker, or Vietnam vets had about Apocalypse Now.

If the population has "too many" vets, those complaints drown out the movie.

turcopolier

GZC

Nah. "Apocalypse Now" is re-worked Conrad and FMJ is something different and better but not the real war. "Hamburger Hill" just kills me. "Are you happy now Blackjack? You killed my company." The words will never leave me. pl

Roy G.

'Persistence of Mammaries?' LOL Alan, how long have you been waiting to pull that one on us?

Fwiw, since you're on this tangent, better add Waltz With Bashir to the queue, and Sabra/Shatila to your historical timeline of Israeli naval gazing - although be warned you won't find any comely gurlz in this animated flick.


Pirouz

It seems the only people who make worse war movies than the Israelis are the Iranians, and that's sayin' a lot.

FWIW I tried watching both Beaufort and Kippur. I lasted about ten minutes into each film. Garbage.

Entertaining review here, though, Mr. Farrell

Colonel, you ever seen 84C MoPic?

Jim Ticehurst

The Best Part of this whole Thing..was Reading Your Review of it...with My Three Day Stubble...Urf Urf..

Q..what about the Movie "We Were Soldiers.."..?

Q.Whats the Best..Most Accurate Combat Movie you ever Saw.

Basilisk

WRC,
Uh, was that a reference to PL's inserted photo? If so, grossly unfair. I submit they're not so saggy.

Basilisk

PL,
Can you get your faithful reviewer to take a shot at something of a different genre? How about, uh Ilse, She-Wolf of the SS or some such classic? Maybe something with gurlz?

So far, the only thing stimulating about these movies is those comely bonnets from Beaufort. More pulchritude, please.

turcopolier

Basilisk

Saggy, Laura Linney? My God! pl

Larry Kart

Who is the lady? That image reinforces my belief that if cheesecake were more realistic -- in terms of the women depicted and their demeanor -- it would be much more effective.

turcopolier

Jim T.

"Master and Commander" was the best I ever saw on naval war. "Saving Private Ryan" made me into a vegetable for a couple of months. I think that "Band of Brothers" was the best. "Farewell to the king" is the best UW movie. pl

The Twisted Genius

PL,

This is the first I've heard of "Farewell to the King." It does look good. Not sure if you caught the PBS Secrets of the Dead episode of "The Airmen and the Headhunters." It's a true story at least as remarkable as "Farewell to the King." A B-24 crew is rescued by a tribe of headhunters in Borneo. An Australian team also joins the headhunters to encourage them to fight the Japanese. Great Story.

http://video.pbs.org/video/1327179571

BTW, I always enjoyed "Cross of Iron" and "Glory."

Neil Richardson

AT3 Sagger or the bane of Western main battle tanks in the mid 1970s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vODsZoHoxqA

turcopolier

TTG

A headhunters song at the "Rising of the Moon" in the days of high adventure. "Forward the Colors!" pl

The Twisted Genius

Ah those puffy helmet covers. At first I thought they were fans of some futbol club like the East Side Shitakes (like the Green Bay cheese heads). Actually, I think they make some tactical sense. Sitting in an outpost with your helmeted head exposed to fire, it might be nice to have something to break up your silhouette. Think of it as a cheap ass ghillie suit for your head.

Larry Kart

I highly recommend Jean-Pierre Melville's French Resistance movie, "Army of Shadows."

Mark Logan


"Das Boot" is the best movie of naval warfare IMO. The genre suffers horribly from slim pickings, because of all the great books about the days of sail could not be profitably turned into movies until the advent of CGI. The sea and camera crews just flat don't get along.

BTW, about half way between Russell Crowe and Jürgen Prochnow, would be my mental image of Claude Devereux.

Jim Ticehurst

Col..Thanks for the Response..I agree with the list..."Master and Commander" was Dynamic..a Great Story That Draws you in..

"Saving Private Ryan" still has the same Impact on me as You..ever time I see it..Nothing overdone..Just makes War look like Hell for any Human to Endure..and how it Impacts different People.. at different Levels..

I have all of the 'Band of Brothers" Movie CD's..
They do The Best Job of making Real WW-2 Infantry Combat Squad Exxperiences I have see..

"I can understand why you selected "Farwell to the King"..with Your Own background and Nam experiences.. I just found the Movie Trailer..of it and Nick Nolte's Role..Many reviews under it say it was a Very Under Rated movie with a Powerful Ending..

I am Glad You Came Back Home Pat..Thank You for all of Your Service..I Have Touched "The WALL" with Reverence..

William R. Cumming

LK! Agree with ARMY of Shadows as terrific. But for combat like the two epics by the Russians of WAR and Peace with thousands, hundreds of thousands, participants. And maybe the Alexander Nevsky epic also. WOW! Wondering if Adolph Shickelgruber watched those? Before WWII of course.

William R. Cumming

And PL my eyes are fading so need larger pics!

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Thnk yr right.  French admitted after WWI that whole mobilized culture precluded heroes, obviated need to recount war (though any numer of authors did it well).
The casting around for medium to retrieve horror has led us to some really great art, some sad failures.  Hard to deny the failures, though, in name of necessary enterprise.  Anyhow. Thanks fr comment.  AFF
 

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I msuta missed orig of this, but Farewell the K is a French novel written by same guy made Anderson Platoon and La 317ieme section, best war film I know and
worth the watch (I’ll see if can find my review and post).  Attaching my review of Master.  All best, AFF
 

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L’armée des ombres, novel sequence in Fr and quite good (as ever, better to read than watch, alas).  Seen Uranus, also Fr?  AFF
 

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Child of the 40’s I grew up on Run Silent, Run Deep and Enemy Below, both of which great as flick and appear (to landlubber at least) plausibly authentic. 
Das Boot (sometimes called Das Butt o/a/o seaminess) gritty realism I take faithful to WWII submariner experience.  My colleagues here at VMI submariners seem to be less gritty bunch if that betoken change in undersea environment/culture.  My old man a deepwater
sailor WWII (Mom do not put his picture on wall…).  AFF
 

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I have seen MoPic, curious little flick I’d place with the ones about the guy in the squad retrieving combat by writing about it.  Frist instance of I recall
in Barbusse’ Le feu, where the writer/retriever engages in debate about profanity as nec to the faithful depiction of soldier existence in soldier words.  I’ll try post my older review of La 317ieme section, my cand for best war flick ever.  All best, AFF
 

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