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21 September 2011

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Cato the Censor

In Texas politics, nothing is too low. Some of Karl Rove's most disgusting stunts were pulled off there. Perry is simply applying the same principle on a national and international basis.

The Moar You Know

Can't go any lower than the bottom, but by God Perry seems determined to try. I'll give him that, at least.

My jaw hit the floor yesterday when I read this. Does he not understand what is at stake here? He must not. At least the current administration does, although they're going to do the wrong thing anyway. But Perry? Again, the man proves that he is fundamentally unserious. That kind of "shoot one's mouth off without knowing what you're talking about" crap may play well in certain parts of the Lone Star State (frankly, I doubt it does, Texans aren't stupid) but in international politics, the slightest errant word can have grave consequences. I expect a candidate for the Presidency of the United States to at least understand that simple principle.

"Does that mean I am going have to vote for BO? Ugh!"

I'm not seeing an alternative, unfortunately. Obama has so far had the good sense to keep his mouth shut and let State do the heavy lifting on this one. Which is as it should be.

linda

someone needs to go back and review the video of netanyahu's speech before congress... the one where joe biden, from his perch behind the speaker, eagerly offered his hand in friendship; and amazingly bibi didn't smack it away. (replaying his insult to biden just a few months back). that biden displayed such deference at that point is all the messaging needed about where this administration stands in support of israel.

Fred

I read that quote too. How about this one:

"As a Christian," he said, he has "a clear directive to support Israel. Both as an American and as a Christian, I am going to stand with Israel."

I did not know Perry was God's representative on earth. Where did he get that 'directive'? I don't remember that message being sent by God. Perhaps he thinks AIPAC is God?

He sure doesn't speak for my interests as an American and his interpretation of Christianity certainly isn't mine.

jr786

@ Moar:

Heavy lifting? This is entirely Obama's decision to make. Ne needs neither permission from State nor the support of Perry and his knuckle dragging supporters.

Good sense? Obama has the chance to seize an historical moment that would be to the infinite benefit of the United States and to the minor detriment of a small minority of people to whom that matters little.

Perry's a tool, Obama is a moral coward who puts his own political interests before those of the country.

Matthew

Col: I really think this is one of those "England's Peril is Ireland's Opportunity" monents. The more we engage in strategic incoherence, the more attractive a surging China becomes around the world. Would a Chinese politician boot-lick a minor foreigner power like Perry's doing?

This also permits rising regional stars like Turkey to forcefully push their own agendas after relegating us to the irrelevant bin.

It's one thing to oppose a determined Superpower. It's another to oppose a Keystone Cops Superpower. Our diplomats have been reduced to literally shouting at Abbas. See http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/u-s-should-recognize-palestinian-state-1.385694.

Where is our age's George C. Marshall?

J

There are a multitude of reason why the Israeli Government has pulled out all to submarine Palestinian Statehood recognition at the U.N., if successful then the Palestinians through the various U.N. apparatuses could seek to force Israel to have to open up its nuclear weapons manufacturing and nuke weapons cache a.k.a. Dimona, force Israel to have sign on to the NNPT, and move the international community to seek criminal proceedings against the Israeli Government for its various ongoing criminal enterprises (i.e. armed hijackings of aid ships, weapons smuggling, Israeli Government murders of Palestinians and other nationalities (i.e. U.S.), etc.). Israel is actively seeking to use pliable useful idiots like Mr. Perry to advance their whims.

A bucket-o-worms could be opened up against and expose the Israel monster for what it truly is, ugly ugly and more ugly.

jr786

What the Palestinians have done is call the world on its hypocrisy, emdodied by a brothel doorman.

Seems to me that for Americans, the only question that can possibly matter is what is in the national interest of the United States. Am I wrong in saying this?

If someone can make the case that at this moment exercising a veto can somehow be in the interests of this country I would love to hear it.

An argument in any other context is pimping.

rjj

Neither is running for POTUS - looks as if voters get to pick POTIR (Puppet of the Israeli Raj).

Roy G.

Welcome to the new Appeasement.

What's next? I predict Perry will lead an Israeli commando squad attack against the next Mavi Marmara, guns a blazin' and cowboy boots a flashin'.

Yeeehaw!

arbogast

We have turned our Presidency into something that Louis XIV would be jealous of.

Bush apparently misses not having to stop at red lights. J'ai failli attendre.

It is no wonder that the scum of the earth want to be President.

Matthew

One further comment. In Obama's UN speech today, he continues to use word "aspiration" for Palestinians. Note that they have no rights, just "aspirations." His speech is not just clownish but a complete misreading of the times. For example, look at this hideous description of the current situation:

"“Let’s be honest: Israel is surrounded by neighbors that have waged repeated wars against it. Israel’s citizens have been killed by rockets fired at their houses and suicide bombs on their buses. Israel’s children come of age knowing that throughout the region, other children are taught to hate them. Israel, a small country of less than eight million people, looks out at a world where leaders of much larger nations threaten to wipe it off of the map. The Jewish people carry the burden of centuries of exile, persecution, and the fresh memory of knowing that six million people were killed simply because of who they were. “ See http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/full-transcript-of-obama-s-speech-at-un-general-assembly-1.385820

Notice he didn't mention how many children Israel murdered in Cast Lead. I'm so over this silly man.

Cameron

If I recall correctly, the last time Biden was in Israel, he announced that he was "home" as he left the plane. I'm sure that went over well in the Arab world.

The Moar You Know

Well, I stand corrected. So much for Obama having the "good sense to keep his mouth shut and let State do the heavy lifting". He went right to the UN and lead with his chin.

Hope the Arab world needs our money enough so that we don't get a second oil embargo from them.

jr786: I'll agree with you that Obama's a moral coward, but you can't limit that observation to just him. Somehow our entire political process has been subjugated to serve the interests of Israel before our own. I do not know how this happened but I do not like it one bit.

Fanto

Colonel, I am delighted to hear that you do not like anything about Perry. (you take back your previous statement that you like some things about him). I could "smell" the man just by seeing him on TV. Just like Hitler would not be successful in the era of TV as observed by Marshall McLuhan in the 1960s.

Nancy K

I could not bear another Texan for president, anytime soon. especially one that makes Bush look intelligent. There may be some Israeli's and Jews who support RP, but definitly not the majority. My husband is both Jewish and Israeli and he does not agree with what is happening in Israel, he believes the Palistinians should have a state and he cannot stomach RP.
We do not agree with President Obama on using the US veto and we wish he had more of a backbone, maybe he is will grow one, but we will definitly vote for him especially over RP.
Col Lang, I'm so glad you changed your mind regarding RP.

Jackie

jr786- Of course no one can make the argument that this veto is good for this country. They just tap dance around it and make convoluted statements.

J

Poverty an invisible issue in GOP race
http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/21/opinion/martin-gop-poverty/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn

One has to wonder how the GOP will try and spin this besides trying to blame Obama and the Dems for it.

This could be blamed on both, when the Dems were in power President Clinton pushed through NAFTA, which started the slippery slide of the decline of our nation and its economy.

To add injury to insult, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, Business Roundtable, worked hand-in-glove promoting national sovereignty destroying Free-Trade, which has gutted our nation even more with the loss of jobs going overseas and manufacturing being moved out of the U.S., and a loss of national self-sufficiency in both food and manufacturing.

Don't forget the corporate raiding of our U.S. Economy that was unleashed by GOP (once-upon-a-mule Texas Democrat) Former Texas Sen. Phil Gramm with his gutting of the Glass-Stegall checks-n-balances on the banking/financing industries, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, Wall Street Banking giants worked hand-in-glove with Sen. Phil Gramm and the GOP Leadership to make sure that the reins of control were removed from off crooked bankers and crooked business. Phil Gramm if I'm not mistaken has been living high-off-the-hog since his active participation with crooked bankers/business in the destruction of the Glass-Stegall controls.

steve

Do these christian-zionists not have any awareness at all of the suffering that Christian Palestinians undergo at the hands of Israelis?

B. D. Warbucks

pl,

Read my lips: No New Texans!

Ken Hoop

Colonel,

"Do you have to vote for BO?"

I venture and have long ventured to say, before the US is turned around, if ever, viable third and even fourth parties will have to be developed, parties which represent neither the Anglo-Jewish oligarchies and pressure groups nor the liberal multicultural levelling impulse.

different clue

If enough millions of disgruntled Democrats re-register Republican just long enough to vote for Romney in their states' primaries; they might be able to get Romney nominated by the Republicans. Then you won't have to consider voting for Obama (unless Romney is as distasteful as Perry).

The other alternative would be for millions of disgruntled Democrats to force the issue of primaries to select a candidate-transplant within their own party. But the Goldman-Sachs Wall Street Community which owns the Democratic Party and manages it through convincing-looking front-folk like Bill Clinton and Barack Obama will work very hard to prevent that.

So invading the Republican primaries to vote for Romney or some other un-Perry would be a more plausibly fruitful thing for millions of disgruntled Democrats to do.

Mark Logan


I think he made a mistake running for president. He may be fine for governor of Texas, but I don't believe he really wanted to be President and has not prepared and educated himself for that. He did an interview about his decision to run. He mentioned that he was quite ambivalent about running, but something George W. said to him was key, "You don't want to wake up at 70 and have to wonder if you could have done it if you tried, do you?" Lordy, what's worse? That he would think that important or that he's dumb enough to state it?

He practically swore allegiance to Israel in his announcement speech, so it may not be a crafted stance. He may really believe this.

Saw Mitt praising the far sighted wisdom of that great man Dick Cheney the other day, and I'm afraid that will be it for my ability to watch this campaign stuff for some time. Like watching two drunks fight over a bar tab on the Titanic, right now.

Mj

There is nothing I like about Perry


Well that is more like it.

Fred

I think neither understanding nor compassion.

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