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09 September 2011

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bth

Odd that we go to a non-American news source to get this story.

highlander

Why would you consider that odd?

The MSM has for years,as normal operating procedure, conducted censorship, by simple ommission of unpleasant,un politically correct,or non compliant ideological facts. Objective reporting of observable and confirmable fact,is way the hell down on their agenda.

So,if you still delusionally use the MSM. As a vital source of objective facts, to base your personal decision making on. Well, in addition to being screwed and misled. You are also wasting your personal time.

I think, the Klingons captured the MSM awhile back.

SD

The DOJ (Dept. o' justice notes are a good read.)

http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2011/September/11-nsd-1142.html

The juicy quote is: NOZETTE: “So, uh, I gave you even in this first run, some of the most classified information that there is. . . . I’ve sort of crossed the Rubicon. . . . Now the, uh, so I think when I said like fifty K, I think that was probably too low. . . .The cost to the U.S. Government was two hundred million. . . . to develop it all. Uh, and then that’s not including the launching of it. . .Uh, integrating the satellites. . . . So if you say okay that probably brings it to almost a billion dollars. . . So I tell ya at least two hundred million so I would say, you know, theoretically I should charge you certainly, you know, at most a one percent.”

13 years. Hardly a deterrent. Surely 30 in the slammer would give him some more time for reflecting on his treason and betrayal of his countrymen.

Roy G.

Hooray that an Israeli spy has finally been prosecuted by the US govt - now they'e only about 200 behind Lebanon.

While i'm happy that Nozette is going to do time, I think he's a sacrificial lamb, an outsider who recruited himself, and thus, wasn't really part of the plan, and thus expendable.

On the flip side is the prosecution of Shamai Leibowitz by the DOJ, who blew the whistle on what the US govt. knows about Israeli efforts to manipulate our government to do their bidding:

http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/2011/09/richard_silverstein_seattle_bl.php

I'm happy for this conviction, but I feel that justice is not truly being done, as whistleblowers are being prosecuted, while the enablers of the 9/11 decade are being covered for by the Obama administration.

J

bth,

I don't find it odd, as sadly sooo many times the foreign presses have a better write-up/more meat/more facts on American happenings than our American MSM does.

fyi: here is the released FBI video of Nozette hanging himself -
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/fbi-conversation-with-stewart-nozette/2011/09/07/gIQAtrpPAK_video.html

Have a good weekend all.

steve

I thought he was getting 1-3 years. Guess I hallucinated the hyphen.

13 years sounds pretty tough for an Israeli spy in this day and age.

Not to worry. In a couple of years AIPAC will rev up the clemency machine.

Matthew

"Odd that we go to a non-American news source to get this story."

How so? The MSM didn't initially want to touch Walt & Mearsheimer's "The Israel Lobby" until they found a way to spin it as "anti-Semitic."

Margaret Steinfels

It was in the NYTimes on Wednesday:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/08/us/08spy.html?scp=1&sq=Nozette&st=cse

William R. Cumming

Guilty plea no conviction by a jury. Still DOJ got its man.

Jackie

I heard this news on NPR Wednesday morning, but didn't hear it again the rest of the day. Odd.

Jose

Off topic, but check this out.

http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2011/09/08/minneapolis-jcrc-confirms-monitoring-congressmans-gaza-visit-on-behalf-of-israeli-foreign-ministry/

The beaver

Has anyone seen this:

http://mobile.nytimes.com/article?a=837460&f=21&p=0

When Shamai K. Leibowitz, an F.B.I. translator, was sentenced to 20 months in prison last year for leaking classified information to a blogger, prosecutors revealed little about the case. They identified the blogger in court papers only as "Recipient A." After Mr. Leibowitz pleaded guilty, even the judge said he did not know exactly what Mr. Leibowitz had disclosed.

"All I know is that it's a serious case," Judge Alexander Williams Jr., of United States District Court in Maryland, said at the sentencing in May 2010. "I don't know what was divulged other than some documents, and how it compromised things, I have no idea."

Now the reason for the extraordinary secrecy surrounding the Obama administration's first prosecution for leaking information to the news media seems clear: Mr. Leibowitz, a contract Hebrew translator, passed on secret transcripts of conversations caught on F.B.I. wiretaps of the Israeli Embassy in Washington. Those overheard by the eavesdroppers included American supporters of Israel and at least one member of Congress, according to the blogger, Richard Silverstein.

The beaver

More info on Shamai:
http://mondoweiss.net/2011/09/shamai-leibowitz-a-moral-giant.html

{I would like to point out that in January 2002 Shamai Leibowitz was one of the first 50 soldiers in the reserve of the IDF who signed the Combatants’ Letter. That letter publicly condemned the occupation and was a pledge to refuse to continue to serve in the territories. Many of these soldiers served prison time for their refusal.

Shamai’s decision not to serve in the territories may suggest the answer to your question, Les.

The letter: link to seruv.org.il

Signatories: Shamai is number 47 on the list. link to seruv.org.il}

Roy G.

In other Israel news, FM Lieberman wants to arm the PKK in retaliation for refusing to apologize after the Mavi Mamara Turkey Shoot. Lieberman is also planning active Israeli participation in efforts worldwide to report Turkey's “violations of human rights” in treatment of minorities in Turkey.

“We'll exact a price from Erdoğan that will prove to him that messing with Israel doesn't pay off.” Lieberman was quoted as saying.

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-256246-report-israel-may-offer-military-aid-to-pkk-to-punish-turkey.html

Good thing the Turks aren't afraid of the Lobby.

The beaver

May be the PKK should be reminded of Israel's invaluable help in capturing the former PKK Leader Abdullah Ocalan in 1999 using Comverse Infosystems tapping equipment.

J

The beaver,

Israel's Intelligence arm their Mossad has been schmoozing with the PKK against the Turks for a number of years now. Kinda of a proxy-war of sorts by Tel Aviv. The Israelis are scared-as-hell of a Turkey that will look out for Turkish interest and throw their Israeli interests into the trash bin. If it came down to a head-to-head, the Turks would wipe the floor with the Israelis, unless the Israelis did their Samson option and nuked the Turks. The Turks are not stupid, they see the Israeli activity with the PKK that has cost a number of Turkish lives. Turkey and our U.S. share a common bond, both of us have had the Israelis murder our citizens (both Military & Civilian) in cold-blood with no remorse.

J

It appears that the Israeli inspired calls to attack Iran has resumed with all its black propaganda force. Articles from WINEP along with other somewhat shady D.C. NEOCON think tanks are now pressing full force with their Israel government black propaganda op against Iran. They are incessant in their push to have our D.C. do their dirty work for them. The Israeli government is fear mongering to the max regarding Iran's peaceful use of nuclear energy.
D.C. NEOCONS:
http://www.tnr.com/article/environment-and-energy/94715/jones-nuclear-iran-ahmadinejad
Israel store-front WINEP:
http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/templateC06.php?CID=1711

Charles I

Roy G., Israeli contractors assisting in Iraqi Kurdistan was the subject of my first post here back in 2005 I believe. When the Turkish military was ascendant, the Israeli military relationship very close was my understanding. The civilian government has recently called for armed protection for the next Turkish Gaza flotilla; I haven't read up on the military position, aside from the recent General's arrests.

Some worms have turned for sure, an embassy sacked in Cairo yesterday, but nothing Turkish aside from increased public criticism of Israeli actions is really clear to me. I can't imagine the scene at HQ during a simultaneous major anti-PKK op and an anti-anti-blockade op at sea, whatever the sentiment, whoever's in jail.

I imagine there are a lot of stolen cars in Kurdistan and Gaza though.

Great to see a Nozette conviction - don't tell Rumpole I said that. Yet another iceberg buried with a plea though.

The beaver

J

I was being sarcastic about Comverse et al. I refused a job with Verint, a subsidiary of Comverse and hq'ed, IIRC, in Mossad city Herzliya, after I was told what happened in 1999 in Kenya.

Roy G.

Interesting background. Makes me think Turkey was yet another part of 'securing the realm' that they were never quite able to monkey wrench, and now with their bluster sans finesse, they've lost them entirely.

Talking about icebergs, that Shamai Leibowitz incident is the grand dame, the inside poop on the ways and means The Lobby uses to strongarm Congress into doing their bidding and flood the media with disinfo and propaganda. In some ways, it would be much more damaging than Wikileaks, but since it didn't get the press, they are soft shoeing it into the memory hole.

different clue

What is that thing that Dr. Nozette is posing with?

confusedponderer

IMO a microsatellite.

http://www.marshall.org/experts.php?id=110&print=1

different clue

Confusedponderer,

Thank you. Microsatellite then. The flat things look like photovoltaic cell arrays, but the main body of the whatisit looks like the sort of beautiful Victorian brasswork one might see in the pages of a steampunk graphic novel.

The whatisit clearly brought Dr. Nozetter great joy. Perhaps the authorities will let him keep a copy of that picture in prison so that when he feels sad and lonely . . . he can look at it and remember the good times . . . and then he won't feel so blue.

J

It's a space water witch, that NASA is using to probe for lunar water. Too bad that Nozette's rump wasn't attached to it, so our justice system wouldn't have had to go through all the pain and expense he caused U.S..

Nozette would have made a good space rock don't ya think?

different clue

I am satisfied to accept what our host has said about the matter. " It appears that justice has been done."

The system has worked, and more importantly; the system has been seen to work. Some will take heart, others take heed.

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