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30 August 2011

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The Twisted Genius

J,

The entire TTG extended clan made out fine. Thanks for asking. My brother in Puerto Rico lost a few trees, but his big stone house is fine. My son in Richmond lost power for days, but only lost a few shingles from an eave. We're not climbing up there until it cools off. We also had to straighten and re-stake a couple of cherry trees we planted in the Spring. Our biggest concern was his pet house rabbit. He stayed with us in Stafford until power returned to Richmond. My other son in Alexandria did fine. My father in Fryeburg, Maine only lost two tomato plants. He didn't even lose power. My brother in the White Mountains only lost power for a while. Since he built his timber frame house and barn himself out of wilderness, this didn't phase him in the least. That's the report from the TTG east coast DEW line.

You're absolutely right, our kids are our future.

J

Fred,

Maybe 20 plus Million 'outhouses' set up outside the abodes of Mr. Cantor, all Members of the Congress, the COO of Faux News, all those supposed 'caring tel-evangalists who are good on the boob-tube but short on actual provisions for the poor/down/destitute, maybe 20 plus Million outhouses would create such a 'stink' that Congress would no longer be able to ignore their plight, because it would then so-to-speak be front-n-center right in their smug faces!

Personally I think each Member of the Congress needs to eat a turd-sandwich for every one of our fellow Americans that suffer because of their Congressional corruption.

Whatcha thunk? Possibilities are 'endless', ya?

Stupid Congressional-sumsOb**ches don't realize they can't take any of their ill-gotten gains past their graves' 6ft of dirt.


Norbert M Salamon

This is an analysis of the future [short term] by a German magazine:

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,15350452,00.html

J

NSM,

Like I have said to Phil/Colonel/TTG, I think we're going to regret ever having set foot in that place. I think we should have let the natural demise of the tented-one (Murammar) run its course. We would not have had to worry about Qaddafi's sons, as they would have been ground up in the ensuing meat-grinder that would have taken place following Murammar's demise. He's going on 70, and long life for him I didn't/don't see happening.

We have opened another Pandora's box IMO.

Jay Gould

I hope the irony is not lost on anyone here vis-a-vis Qaddafi's alleged independence from Rothschild influence...

In 2009 Saif spent a week as a guest at the Rothschild estate in Corfu. That year Nat Rothschild separately attended Saif's lavish 37th birthday party in Montenegro. A year before Nat hosted a party for Saif in New York.

Rumors that Qaddafi is actually Jewish have circulated in the Arab world for decades. Saif was romantically linked to an Israeli, Orly Weinerman, in 2006.

Regarding Babak M.'s "1400 years of Islamic despotism," it's unfortunate that this type of bigoted rubbish serves as a substitute for intelligent analysis in the modern day.

J

Jay Gould,

The same type rumors about Qaddafi being Jewish, also abound in parts of the Arab world regarding the Saudi's House of Saud.

It's been a hodge-podge Heinz 57 mixture for a number of years anyways (North Africa and the Mideast). It's most probable that genes have crossed and re-crossed many times over.

Sad thing is, when we strip away our skins, cultures, religions, our make up is the same -- human species. It's stupid the way our species acts like a bunch of hens in the hen house about which egg is the biggest. Imagine if our species concentrated on positive pursuits instead of all the BS that mankind's history is riddled with.

Imagine the positive possiblities if housing, food, shelter, water were all considered a human right and off limits to speculators and crooked finaiciers. Then people wouldn't have to worry about the day to day matters and could concentrate their energies on the higher pursuits of life -- namely ITS PARTY TIME FOLKS! :)

Wouldn't the world look great if it mirrored a bunch of frat boys chasing a May pole. Imagine the possibilities. LOL

Will Reks

J,

I'm no fan of Wall Street/City of London and their perfidious influence either. Vampire bankers is quite the appropriate description.

William R. Cumming

The Truth shall Set You Free? Perhaps but time will tell exactly what was accomplished in Libya. I supported the NATO effort but for perhaps strange reasons. MQ efforts to subvert subSaharan Africa.

And doing a quick check while power out for 5 days it looks to me like most of the banking elite in the USA involved in the financial collapse are prosecutable under old fashion common law criminal embezzlement statutes. But hey perhaps they all were preempted by FEDERAL LAW. Hoping Ron Paul reads this comment.

J

WRC,

Those crooked bankers wouldn't have stashed secret Obama get-out-of-jail-free letters they're carrying around in their pockets, would they? Wink, wink, nod, nod.

J

Jay Gould,

Forgive me, I forgot to include in the fold of what should be a considered a human right and off limits to speculators and crooked financiers -- transportation (oil/gas/diesel).

They used to, and still do in certain parts, hang a person for horse stealing. In olden times to steal a person's horse meant one was taking away from a man/family the ability to have access to transportation. Most communities/homes were such that travel was 'required' for obtaining the necessities of life like food/food harvests/items required for shelter & clothing, etc.. Today the same can be said of the automobile/tractor/diesel conveyances, they all are what we could realistically consider today's 'horse'. What the speculators, crooked politicos, crooked oil business controllers, and financial gangster crooks are doing with gas/oil/diesel prices is equivalent to horse stealing, and they should be hung/shot/drawn-n-quartered for the [unnecessary] pain, suffering, and anguish they are causing so many.

J

TTG,

As I'm helping my better half (and a whole lot better looking), my lovely wife, get her fair entries handwork's together to enter the county fair taking place, I ponder just how stupid of a species we are with how we treat each other. Imagine on judgement day, all the gazillions of human souls that were created were frog-marched before the Creator of Life in a mass assembly fashion, were told by the Creator -- look you stupid fools, i made ya for the x-clusive purpose of partying like a bunch of frat boys chasing a may pole. and look at ya, bickering, bitching, lying, stealing, plotting, murdering, killing, and destroying each other, and for what, for 'what'? a bag of fritos? don't ya know that there is more to life than corn chips? now get yer acts straight and party hardy and stop yer foolish nonsense --. at that point the Creator concludes the sermon on the mountain-top, and the party music is cranked up and once again hums through out the universe.

Life should be one big PARTY, right? Gotta have fun right? Soooo, let's all be a bunch of frat boys chasing a May pole, and quit acting like a bunch of human species fools.

JohnH

Can any of the commenters refute J's claim that Libya had the highest standard of living in Africa? (Note that standard of living is different from per capita GDP, which refers only to production. Standard of living measures the distribution of the nation's income.)

Can anyone refute the other social benefits J listed?

Can anyone refute Qaddhafi's move to abandon the Gold Dinar and the Dollar? Can anyone dismiss this as a likely motive for NATO bombing?

What I see here are comments that don't address the post. Sure Qaddhafi was a nasty guy. But apparently he was a nasty guy who provided for the basic health and well being of his people, unlike many of the regimes backed by the international community.


Thomas


“I found what appeared to be the minutes of a meeting between senior Libyan officials – Abubakr Alzleitny and Mohammed Ahmed Ismail – and David Welch, former assistant secretary of state under George W Bush. Welch was the man who brokered the deal to restore diplomatic relations between the US and Libya in 2008.
... The documents record that, on August 2, 2011, David Welch met with Gaddafi's officials at the Four Seasons Hotel in Cairo, just a few blocks from the US embassy.
During that meeting Welch advised Gaddafi's team on how to win the propaganda war, suggesting several "confidence-building measures", according to the documents. The documents appear to indicate that an influential US political personality was advising Gaddafi on how to beat the US and NATO.
Minutes of this meeting record his advice on how to undermine Libya's rebel movement, with the potential assistance of foreign intelligence agencies, including Israel.

The documents read: "Any information related to al-Qaeda or other terrorist extremist organisations should be found and given to the American administration but only via the intelligence agencies of either Israel, Egypt, Morroco, or Jordan… America will listen to them… It's better to receive this information as if it originated from those countries...".
The papers also document Welch advising the Gaddafi's regime to take advantage of the current unrest in Syria. The documents held this passage: "The importance of taking advantage of the Syrian situation particularly regarding the double-standard policy adopted by Washington… the Syrians were never your friends and you would loose nothing from exploiting the situation there in order to embarrass the West."


http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/features/2011/08/2011831151258728747.html

J

Thomas,

Looks like that Welch may have his balls in a legal wringer.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/09/bush_officials_advice_to_qaddafi_regime_could_raise_legal_issues.php

Colonel, Phil, TTG,

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Messr's David Welch behave as an Israel firster with his 'advice' to Israel to act in an agressive manner in their 06 Lebanon invasion? Isn't this the one-n-the-same David Welch, State Dept. type?

Hmm....let's see Welch illegally advised Daffy Duck, and he also illegally advised Israel. What a way to run a State Dept., commit all kinds of illegalities that have blow-back potentials. Sheez, Welch advised Lebanon's Sinora on the Seven Points draft. Hmmm......David Welch, a State Dept. official who financed and directed aggression in Palestine and Lebanon. And now he's making big buck on Bechtel's payroll.

J

TTG,

Did you have a chance to examine the U.N. Human Rights Report on Libya yet?

See section 1B. Interactive dialogue and responses by the State under review starting on page 6.

Look at how surrounding nations marveled at the human rights inroads that the Libyan Government was making on behalf of its citizens, and were asking how to model such in their own respective nations.
The Qaddafi Government received praises from Algeria, Qatar, Sudan, Syrian Arab Republic, N. Korea, Bahrain, Palestine, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Tunisia, The Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela, Jordan, Cuba, Oman, Egypt, Malta, Bangladesh, Malaysia, The Islamic Republic of Iran, Morocco, Pakistan. Poland praised Libya's efforts in its fighting of corruption and trafficking.

Also Libya received praises from the Governments of Australia, Canada, Myanmar, Viet Nam, Thailand, Brazil, Slovakia, Kuwait, The United States of America, Sri Lanka, Japan, The United Arab Emirates, The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, Azerbaijan, Yemen, Turkey, Belarus, Chad.

Now when have you see that number of nations actually agreeing on something, anything? But they agreeded on Libya's inroads in the Human Rights arena, even our own D.C. had to acknowledge Qaddafi's Government progresses and initiatives. Course there is always a party pooper, that party pooper appears to have been Israel, Israel never happy with anybody else's accomplishments, always want praises heaped on them and them alone. Ergo Israel appears to have dissed or tried to dis Libya and Qaddafi at every turn.

Some of the same NATO nations involved in the bombing of Libya just months prior and were set to give Qaddafi a U.N. award for his accomplishments in Human Rights. Several of the NATO countries, including Denmark, Germany, Spain and Italy, as well as Australia, PRAISED Colonel Muammar Qaddafi for his excellent work in human rights.

And what do they do? Do they give him an award? Not instead they give him the boom-boom treatment, cause somebody wants Tripoli's national assets (i.e. oil, gold, etc.).

I'm sorry, I don't see NATO's actions as helping the situation one bit, instead NATO's actions have exacerbated the situation beyond measure.

NATO/OTAN IMO is no longer a 'for the common defense' org, but a 'bully club' instead, and needs to be dismantled before it gets any uglier than it already is.

Now I'll get off my 3inch soapbox.

Patrick Lang

J

Their natural resources? what? You don't think their oil will be bought at market prices? Oh, i forgot, you thought we invaded Iraq for its oil as well. That really worked out according to your theory, didn't it? pl

J

Colonel,

Libya's oil will be bought at market prices, it's the 'whom' that'll be receiving the revenues, that I find the kicker.

Iraq was and still is all about Israeli security, with its oil thrown in as a bennie for Cheney's old pals, right? Who's receiving the revenues from Iraqi oil today? Is it going into the mainstream Iraqi economy, or into specific pockets and cliques?

I just found it odd that they (nations that made up the NATO bombing campaign) wanted to give Mr. Daffy an award, and at the same time bomb him to smithereens. I still want to know where Libya's 144 Tons of Gold is going to wind up, do you have any ideas in this regard?

My theory, LOL and a buck fifty buys a cup of java. Ain't worth much else, but at least I have one.

Hope you have a good month, and chance to enjoy as well as work. I'll leave all the traveling to you, and wish you well in it. As for me, I enjoy keeping my keester in one place and not moving it outside my little nook of heaven.

Have a good weekend.

J

Colonel,

Forgot to include one very important factor -- keeping my keester in one spot 'under my cool/comfortable new heat pump'. The way our oldest son insulated our new home (R30), and the bigger heat pump system our heat-n-air man put in, my wife and I have been in heaven this summer with all the heat 'outside' while we were inside cooling our heels in comfort. And the really biggie -- my wife once again has a big smile on her face. That's worth all the gold in China as far as I'm concerned.

Again, have a good weekend. A good weekend to one and all I might add. :)

J

Colonel,

Aw right, I do have to admit I was just a 'wee bit' off course on Iraq and its oil, just a 'wee bit'. OK, so my crystal ball has become hazy from not reading its instruction manual correctly, give me a break, right? LOL I don't think I could make a living at prognostication, don't have the feeling for it like the Rom do. Maybe I need to exchange my crystal ball do you think?

The Twisted Genius

J,

Don't bet your well insulated house on the contents of that UNHRC report. It's a commentary on a report prepared by the Qathafi government. What the Libyan report said was very enlightened, a model for human rights. From this report I conclude that the Qathafi clan could distinguish right from wrong. That they did implement some of these lofty ideas is commendable. They had plenty of oil wealth to do so. They also had the wealth to hire Tuareg mercenaries at a thousand dollars a day... each. Crap! My first monthly paycheck as a 2LT was 666 dollars.

For whatever great ideas the Libyan report submitted to the UNHRC contained, it was still a product of Qathafi's propaganda machine designed to further Qathafi's aims and ambitions. Between his batshit "zenga zenga" speeches, he was a crafty and capable dictator... at least for 42 years.

It wasn't NATO that started this revolution. It was the Libyan people. They started it and they will finish it. If things were as rosy for the Libyan people as that UN report depicted, I seriously doubt there would have been a revolution.

J

TTG,

I can't 'entirely' believe that it was 'solely' the Libyan people that started this 'revolution'. I think they had a few shall we say 'proddings' by outside interests.

I'm going to stand back and watch which skunks come out of the woodpile on this one. They can't stay in the woodpile forever, sooner or later they have to poke their heads out. Too much artificial egg yolk for me in this whole Libyan imbroglio.

I'm sooo glad I can now sit on the sidelines and watch the fur fly. Took some getting used to, seeing things from such a vantage point.

The Twisted Genius

The proddings were the momentous events in Tunisia and Egypt... the Arab Spring. The outside interests, I think you are referring to, were all perfectly happy with the status quo across North Africa. As Freud said, "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."

highlander

The underlying force that made this little Libyan "dust up" possible, is the increasingly strong revival of Tribalism, as a worldwide phenomenon.

The Dark Forces "spookies",where able to use the longterm, but until now suppressed, Libyan tribal animosities coupled with some precision delivered high tech ordnance to axe poor old "Q-man". (We ve tried to kill the crazy old coot several times in the past, and this is the best we could do. No damn wonder the Klingons are slowly winning!)

Why? My guess is oil, economics, and a little imperial hubris.

But after 42 years, Q-man was a known quantity, and some what stable. Is he followed by a blossoming democratic flower of Athenian porportions, or another Iran. Nobody knows, including the Imperial war mongers who thought this little caper up.

Now, if I could just get my cousins back in the Highlands to give up single malt, salmon fishing, and deer stalking for a few months. Maybe, we could entice NATO to bomb London as a distraction. While, we march on Edinburgh, and takeover what is left of the North Sea oil patch. Free whiskey,and haggis for all!

J

Colonel, TTG, WRC, highlander,

Speaking Libyan oil.....it appears that the NATO/OTAN 'Allies' are now 'feuding' over Libyan Oil AND Natural Gas. Who wudda thought. Will we next see a 'Hatfield-McCoy s feud' over Libyan Gold? Hmmmm, interesting how post-Daffy Libya is forming, the skunks are starting to poke their heads out of the hen house, early I might add.

http://www.marketwatch.com/video/asset/nato-allies-feud-over-libyan-oil/376C2869-2B70-42CF-92DA-20255F6E694F

Iraqi Dinar

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