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04 June 2011

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walrus

The Henry and the Browning T-Bolt in .17HMR are available just down the road from me. I guess its time to go take a look..

Both have very good reviews. The round looks to be more "neighborhood friendly" for the area I'm thinking of as well as just right for Foxes.

Review of the T Bolt:

http://ausvarmint.com/av/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=73&Itemid=28

PeterHug

TTG, I think I'm more of a luddite than you ... I have two firearms, one of .75 caliber and the other .69 - and they have a cyclic rate of about 5 rpm in well-trained hands.

:)

William R. Cumming

Potential war with Iran a serious subject! Both Israel and Iran seem to believe that war might have winners. IMO both would end their nation-state status after such a war.
And both have some claim to that status and not just tribal areas.
My view is that both Israel and Iran might well study closely the Han Chinese as the MONGOLS on the horizon, just better adept at avoiding direct confrontation. Sun Tzu?

Fiorangela

William R Cummings, re: "Both Israel and Iran seem to believe that war might have winners. IMO both would end their nation-state status after such a war."

It's important to put the right labels on the parties to a conflict: Who is the aggressor, who is the defender.

No rhetorical questions here to flesh out the situation; Israel is the aggressor, Iran is the defender.

In many of Iran's mid-sized towns and even in large cities, one can still see buildings that were damaged in 1981-1988 and have not yet been repaired.

Faded posters of sons, husbands, brothers of villagers killed in Iraq-Iran war are still visible on the doorways of the homes they never returned to.

I flew from Frankfurt to Tehran next to a woman who was returning from a visit to her brother who is confined to a hospital in Germany, where he is kept alive by machines that breathe for him; his lungs were damaged by chemical weapons in Iraq-Iran war; he is one of 50,000 Iranians living with the debilitating reminder of Saddam's gas attacks on Iran.

Iran does not want another war. Not Iran's people, not Iran's leaders, not Iran's Revolutionary Guard. Despite having paid hundreds of millions of dollars to Israel and the US for weaponry in the pre-revolution years, Iran was not prepared to defend itself against Iraq in 1981. As Ronen Bergman reports in "The Secret War with Iran," Iran, too, has promised itself that "Never Again" will Iran be caught with its defenses down.

William R. Cumming

Fiorangela! Well Iraq certainly the aggressor in the Iranian/Iraqi war! By picking sides in that war again the US showed its incompetent administration of foreign policy witness the grinning RUMMY shaking hands with SH!

Well the USA is paying for its ignorance and hubris daily even as its various picking sides and intervening force a world-wide consensus that the USA is a danger out of its almost total ignorance and incompetence at foreign affairs.
And Hillary should NOT be given the World Bank slot. Zoellick doing fine and perhaps like the IMF time for some other nation-state to lead the WB since we are totally incompetent at managing our (US) financial affairs and internal development! By the anniversary of WWII in 2045 the US is headed to joke status in the world. Just 34 years off. What clown will be the next US President? Perhaps the UN will let Canada intervene after riots and civil disorders later this summer?

Patrick Lang

WRC

OK. All you innocents come and talk to me six months from now about your opposition re my Turkish suggestion. By then the number of dead syrian civilians will be much larger.

WRC

In re the Iran-Iraq War. Yes, the Iraqis invaded Iran. Once it began the Saudis begged the US to intervene sufficiently to keep Iran from over running South Iraq, Kuwait and the Eastern Province of Saudi Arabia. if you think that was not going to happen, then you don't know anything about that war.

I still have not managed to explain to many of you the difference between what ought to be and what is. pl

Thomas

Sir

This comment should be posted on the Turkey into Syria thread also:

"OK. All you innocents come and talk to me six months from now about your opposition re my Turkish suggestion. By then the number of dead syrian civilians will be much larger."

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