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14 November 2010


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Clifford Kiracofe

Absolutely on point.

For those interested in background on the present militarization of US foreign policy, to include General Butler:

1. George Wolfskill, The Revolt of the Conservatives. A History of the American Liberty League (Boston: Houton Mifflin, 1962).

"Conservative" NOT in the American Constitutionalism sense but in the European sense of the "Conservative Revolution" of the 1920s and 1930s...the rise of Fascism.

I explain some of this in my book Dark Crusade (London: Tauris, 2009).

2. An essential book on Fascism:

Gaetano Salvemini, The Origins of Fascism in Italy (New York: Harper and Row, 1973. Edited from his 1942 manuscript.)

3. Both the Luce publishing empire (Time-Life-Fortune) and the Hearst empire endorsed European Fascism in the 1920s and 1930s...it can happen here.

steven gandy

Col Lang:

Glad you mentioned Gen.Butler. Participated in a Marine Corps birthday
celebration at a local bar
in Mpls. The pub owner an
ex-Marine. Over a hundred or more in attendance,including those from various eras. Talked to a couple of current reservists from the local air wing attachement. One a sargeant major was only 38 yrs old, 8 active and 12 reserve. Quite young I thought. Another, a fifty one year old Lt. Col.was quite conversive to all.Had gone to Quantico of course. The topic turned to all our present wars. I asked him what he thought Smedley Butler might say and to my astonishment he said he never heard of him. As an enlisted 67 to 70 we learned about many such Marine Corps icons but not necessarily their political beliefs after their time in service. To be an officer of this rank an not heard of this legend might mean the whitewashing of not only history but those who did not agree with our countries current and past policies. If this is the case across the service branches the Long War will no doubt be generational in nature.


Some things never seem to change; but only if we allow them... as we have.


Mr Kiracofe, I believe fascism is already here in the guise of the Testicular Sqeezing Authority (TSA), you either get naked for them or have your genitals fondled thereby forcefully taking away our claims to self-ownership.

William R. Cumming

The Foreign Corrupt Practices Act prohibits US corporations from bribing foreign governments to get contracts. Apparently DOD and DOJ have a hands off policy in Afghanistan and Iraq and elsewhere (Israel?)!


"KABUL- President Hamid Karzai said on Saturday that the United States must reduce the visibility and intensity of its military operations in Afghanistan and end the increased U.S. Special Operations forces night raids that aggravate Afghans and could exacerbate the Taliban insurgency."

Yeah and the Government of India (the one we just did the kissy, huggie thingy with) also demands .....


'Yeah,' an honest reply would start with, 'but if we can't make the big money what the hell is the point of US being there?'

William R. Cumming

So after the election of Karzai are the US forces not in Afghanistan at the request of that government?

Since the establishment has struggled so hard to insist Karzai is a democratic leader, if he insists we leave or modify our conduct what is the US rationale for not doing so?

Or does civilian control of US Armed Forces only apply when they are deployed domestically?

2nd Op

Col Lang states that "rot and profits run very high up" in our cvilian authority. I agree and share flite's apparant frustration that we have been unable (unwilling?) to change this pattern of corruption.
Is there any way for honest Americans to join together to force change?

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