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02 October 2010

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Anna-Marina

This article from CounterPunch is painful to read, when one skips the story of Rahm and goes directly to a letter by Florida-based Nancy and Mark Gilbert, the Democratic Party and Israel fundraisers. Perhaps we should be thankful to Ambassador Oren for his clarity.
http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn10012010.html

J

Colonel,

I'm frankly stunned that the Europeans weren't outraged at Pollard's espionage and its subsequent damage to their ability to thwart a Soviet/Warsaw Pact nuclear attack.

Dismember Pollard and scatter his parts over the European Continent for every NATO partner that Pollard put at grave risk. That would be considered inhumane wouldn't it. But so was Pollard's espionage -- inhumane to the U.S. and Europe.

Friggin Israeli maggots who are still walking free that were part-n-parcel active players in Pollard's espionage.

Lewie

TO: Mr. Richard Sale,
re: Secretary Weinberger interview with journalist Edwin Black.

Sir,

I do hope the following reference material provides clarity with respect to the controversy surrounding my previous post.
[unedited excerpt of Edwin Black's article]

Weinberger memoir omits key involvement
Edwin Black - Special To The Jewish Week (NY) - June 14, 2002
Caspar Weinberger's plain-prose memoir, generally devoid of emotion, recounts his rise to the top of the defense establishment and his controversial tenure there.

What "In the Arena" [Regnery] does not recount is his pivotal involvement with the Jonathan Pollard spy case. Weinberger was called upon by the judge to assess the damage Pollard, a civilian Navy analyst, did to national security.

Asked in an interview why he omitted the incident, Weinberger casually replied, "Because it was, in a sense, a very minor matter but made very important." Asked to elaborate, Weinberger repeated, "As I say, the Pollard matter was comparatively minor. It was made far bigger than its actual importance."

Pressed on why the case was made far bigger than its actual importance, Weinberger answered, "I don't know why — it just was."
[END OF EDWIN BLACK]

[subsequent paragraphs not relevant and were deleted]

Edwin Black from Wikipedia follows:
In the late 1970s he was a founder of the investigative magazine, The Chicago Monthly.[5] He also was a frequent freelance contributor to the four major Chicago newspapers of the day, the Tribune, the Daily News, the Sun-Times, and Chicago Today, as well as such weeklies as Chicago Reader and Chicago Magazine.

Friendly_Fire

J, France gave Israel the nukes, Britain the special puppy, Germany have to stay stum, so not surprised, as to what happened behind closed doors etc...

Patrick Lang

Lewie

"Pollard’s most damaging gift to the Soviets was that of the US. war plan against the Soviet Union. including firing locations, sequences, and coordinates."

Presumably we are talking about boomers since Pollard would not have had access to the rest of the SIOP.

Does that seem "minor" to you? pl

Fred

Anna Marina, from your link:
"... the Obama team’s clever input to re-wording the Gaza blockade language ..." It may have prevented publication in the US media, but it hasn't stop the rest of the planet:
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/10/01/flotilla/index.html

Fred

Col.

What is your view on the comments former president Clinton made regarding Russian imigration to Isreal. In addition to a significant change in cultural outlook isn't it also likely that there are a signficant number of Russian agents within the Isreali government and militiary industries?

Patrick Lang

Fred

It is likely to be true. pl

J

Fred,

Israel has been 'Swiss cheese' when speaking about Russian moles. Which is 'trouble' for U.S.. If you want anything that is U.S. 'classified' protected, you DON'T give it to Israel. If our U.S. government is stupid enough to give the Israelis access to the 'iron dome' tech, they can then kiss it goodbye as it will in short order be 'Moscow bound'. I 'hope' that it is 'U.S. ONLY' access to the iron dome stuff. Course the problem is that if U.S. personnel are allowed local r&r on the Israeli economy, Israeli Military and Civilian Intelligence will have their 'honey traps' and Mata Hari's in place for the unsuspecting U.S. iron dome personnel to garner all the iron dome stuff they can from the unfortunate personnel who have been stuck with the iron dome tasking.

Jake

One of these days we will learn our "lessons learned".. The question is WHEN?

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hGTcYEKIrWy0bV-jIm7pq9QOea1QD9IJT4Q00?docId=D9IJT4Q00

Banging my head on my desk several times..........

zhgfnfm

J, I am afraid your government has given the store already to MOSSAD...when Rahm MOSSAD Emanuel sits on all meetings in the situation room and is your Chief Of Staff to Obama... Since 2000, CIA/MOSSAD have become Siamese Twins....

Allen Thomson


There's a fairly recent book on l'affaire Pollard that has substantial portions exerpted at http://tinyurl.com/253pztv

FWIW, it's not really clear to me at what point in his career he would have had need-to-know access to SSBN operational/SIOP information. (Of course, he may have had non-need-to-know access, a thing which I have encountered on distressingly many occasions.)

walrus

Lewie, "Edwin Black" is Jewish, and therefore untrustworthy as a reference for this topic.

J

zhgfnfm,

Nah, not the 'entire' store, just a 'portion' of it.

Fortunately for U.S. is compartmentalization, which does keep most of the store from being given away to the Israeli dogs.

What is fun, is watching the Israeli dogs gnawing on a bone that has been intentionally placed to see where its marrow winds up.

Lewie

Lewie, "Edwin Black" is Jewish, and therefore untrustworthy as a reference for this topic.

Posted by: walrus | 03 October 2010 at 04:00 PM

I respectfully disagree with your position that being Jewish, in itself, is a reliable indicator of a professional journalist's integrity, including when it comes to subject matters related to Israel.
I would hope that you might consider judging Mr. Edwin Black based upon his work.
I have included some information below which I hope you will find interesting. Thanks for replying to my post.
L
Excerpt from Wikipedia biography of Edwin Black
follows:

In 1978 Black interviewed the American Civil Liberties Union lawyer who represented members of the American Nazi Party who, intending provocation, marched through the predominantly Jewish Chicago suburb of Skokie.[7] In preparing himself for that interview, Black's interest was piqued in the hidden history of relations between the government of Adolf Hitler and German-Jewish Zionists during the first years of the Nazi regime. Five years of research followed, ending in the 1984 publication of his controversial first book, The Transfer Agreement: The Dramatic Story of the Pact Between the Third Reich and Jewish Palestine.[8]
Black's books have typically made use of carefully selected networks of volunteer and professional researchers assembled for each project. Three years before completion of his 2001 book, IBM and the Holocaust, Black began to put together what would ultimately become a team more than 100 researchers, translators, and assistants to work on discovery and analysis of primary source documents written in German, French, and Polish.[9] In all, more than 20,000 documents from some 50 different libraries, archives, museums, and other collections were assembled and analyzed in the writing of the book.[10]

Black has written extensively on topics beyond that of 1933-1945 German history, including books on oil dependency, the history of Iraq, and alternative energy. He is presently a contributor to the online magazine, The Cutting Edge News.

Black lives today in the Washington, DC metropolitan area.

[edit] Selected literary awards
1985 Carl Sandburg Award of the Friends of the Chicago Public Library for best non-fiction book of 1984 for the book The Transfer Agreement.[12]
2003 General Non-Fiction Book Award from the American Society of Journalists and Authors (ASJA) for the book IBM and the Holocaust.[13]
2003 Donald Robinson Award for Investigative Journalism from the ASJA for the article "Final Solutions: How IBM Helped Automate the Nazi Death Machine in Poland," published in The Village Voice.[13]
2005 Best World Affairs Book Award from the Great Lakes chapter of the World Affairs Council for Banking on Baghdad.[14]
2007 Honorable Mention for General Non-Fiction Books from the ASJA for the book Internal Combustion.[15]
[end of Wilipedia excerpt]

MRW

A look into Edwin Black's mindset. In an article in the right-wing Israeli setllers' newspaper Arutz Sheva about the Agriprocessors case in Iowa, the tag paragraph states:

Black calls the Rubashkin case a "miscarriage of justice" and compares it to the infamous Jonathan Pollard case in which Pollard was sentenced to lifetime imprisonment for a crime in which similar felons have received 2-4 years. "The issue is not whether Rubashkin is the most angelic or villainous of felons," Black concludes. "The issue is fairness and equality – I'm looking into the law, and that's what my investigation was about."
(IsraelNationalNews.com)
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/news.aspx/137404

Anything Edwin Black has to say on the matter is discredited, IMHO. Considering what Israeli reporters had to say about the flotilla and the killing onboard -- & the lies the IDF made up which Max Blumenthal caught them at and reported -- who could trust them with describing an apple accurately?

MRW

Check out the masthead for The Cutting Edge News. That's not an association to crow about.

confusedponderer

Lewie,
lest we get sidetracked into matters of irrelevance, the Pollard case was not a miscarriage of justice. So whatever his general qualities as a reporter, or leanings and motives, Black is not objective here. Equivalencing the Pollard case to the Rubashkin case is preposterous.

I like to suggest a better reference point:

Robert Hanssen, the infamous FBI spy was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. Like Pollard, he also worked for money, but as an Opus Dei guy, he couldn't credibly claim to have worked in accordance with his faith when supplying the Soviets with all that information.

Jonathan Pollard was sentenced to life in prison. A very comparable sentence for a very comparable crime.

J

MRW,

Look at 'who' are some of it's article authors -- WINEP for one.

The 'Cutting Edge News' looks like an AIPAC run 'show' full of pro-Israel slant articles. And as far as the slug Rubashkin, he was nothing more than a drug dealer and slave trader masking himself in a Rabbi suit. DOJ/FBI had Rubashkin by his balls. A crook is a crook, no matter what 'religion' they presume

Abu Sinan

Looks like the Israelis are still at it:

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/slc/story/Door-to-door-spies-in-Utah-County/sjOWsjk_zEqf6QeAfk4ZJw.cspx

J

Abu Sinan,

The Israelis are doing their Intel trolling thing up in Canada as well as near U.S. Government/Military/Intelligence Installations within the U.S..

J

The Israeli IDF are such wunnerful luving maggots, they are all over themselves to prevent a bleeding pregnant woman from reaching needed emergency care.

J

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