Arizona and the immigrants.

 "The law, adopted in April, was aimed at discouraging illegal immigrants from entering or remaining in the state.

It coincided with economic anxiety and followed a number of high-profile crimes attributed to illegal immigrants and smuggling, though federal data suggests crime is falling in Arizona, as it is nationally, despite a surge of immigration.

Seven lawsuits have been filed against the law, challenging its constitutionality and alleging it will lead to racial profiling."  NY Times

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Maricopa County (Phoenix) sheriffs and police arrested over 26,000 illegals last year.  They were turned over to ICE and were deported.  So far as I can see this ruling by Judge Bolton doesn't seem to affect the Arizona authorities ability to continue to do that.  SB 1070 "required" the police to question immigration status in certain situations.  The ruling does not prevent them from continuing to do what they have been doing for years.   Many other local Arizona jurisdictions (Tucson for instance) have been doing the same thing.  No? 

ICE will refuse to accept suspected violators of federal law from the local police?  I think that would probably be actionable.  pl 

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/29/us/29arizona.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

Comments

[optimax]

There is a federal program that since 2008 is slowly being imlemented in cities across the U.S.

"The program, called Secure Communities, has gotten less attention than Arizona's new immigration law, but may end up having a bigger effect because of its potential to round up and deport so many immigrants nationwide.
Under the program, the fingerprints of everyone who is booked into jail for any crime are run against FBI criminal-history records and the Department of Homeland Security's immigration records to determine who is in the country illegally and whether they have been arrested previously. Most jurisdictions are not included in the program, but Immigration and Customs Enforcement has been expanding the initiative.

Since 2007, 467 jurisdictions in 26 states have joined."

http://www2.journalnow.com/content/2010/jul/27/forsyth-will-check-immigration-status/news/

Immigrant-rights groups are contesting this law but will probably not succeed unless Obama caves under pressure, which is likely considering his past performance.

Immigration reform will happen but is now a negotiation between the Americas' elites. They need to throw a bone to the people of the U.S. Because Mexico will be the biggest beneficiary of amnesty, match every Mexican given U.S. citizenship with a U.S. citizen given Mexican citizenship. Allow us to own property anywhere in Mexico. Give us dual U.S./Mexican citizenship, such as Mexicans get. And allow our Special Forces to operate in Mexico to clean out the drug cartels. It would also be a good idea to legalize marijuana in the U.S.This could turn some of the drug kingpins into respectable businessmen.

[Tyler]

Colonel,

The problem lies more in city agencies like Mesa, Buckeye and Tucson turning a blind eye to immigration related crimes and hoping Maricopa Sheriff's Department takes care of the problem (in the first two instances) or the Border Patrol (in the last) so their leadership can hold hands with the criminal advocates passing themselves off as a racial "lobby".

[William R. Cumming]

Have not yet initial decision but Arizona announced its intention to pursue the matter in the courts.
Also if I understand the decision was NOT totally favorable to the US.

[Redhand]

ICE will refuse to accept suspected violators of federal law from the local police? I think that would probably be actionable.

I don't. Immigration enforcement is a discretionary function of the Feds. It is not amenable to a mandamus action in federal court: forcing a federal officer to perform a purely ministerial function. ICE has its own priorities in apprehending criminal aliens. It must decide on its own where its enforcement priorities lie, not be forced to take cases because local state law Yahoos (and the Sheriff of Maricopa County clearly qualifies for this description) want to score political points.

In NJ there is a State Attorney General directive that state police report to ICE any alien arrested and charged with a 4th degree (indictable) offense, whom police have reason to believe lacks legal status. Most of these wind up with immigration ICE "detainers" in state jails and after their criminal cases are over are put into "removal" (deportation) proceedings in immigration court.

I understand and don't object to this system, but it is another matter to say that ICE must take and prosecute all such cases, or initiate removal proceedings against every undocumented alien they become aware of.

[J]

Mexican Officials to Patrol Staten Island Following Latest Bias Attack

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local-beat/Mexican-Man-Pummeled-in-Latest-Staten-Island-Hate-Attack-99325314.html

"“We will act decisively in order to protect our citizens and will actively promote that those guilty of these vicious attacks are brought to justice expeditiously. We are working hand-in-hand with local authorities on all levels,” said Consul General of Mexico in New York, Ruben Beltran in an email to the Staten Island Advance."

A Foreign Government [Mexico] patrolling on American soil. Yet the Mexican Government won't allow U.S. Government officials in 'hot pursuit' of drug runners/smugglers/etc. to cross over the U.S./Mexican border without a firefight from Mexican Military Troops shooting at U.S. Government Personnel.

[Rider]

Let's hope all parties will find new ways to work together instead of drawing more lines in the sand. One Civil War was more than enough.

[Steve]

J--

I don't think your analogy between "hot pursuit" by US law enforcement into Mexico and this plan by the Mexican government is accurate:

"According to the Advance, this latest incident has promoted the Mexican Consulate to post personnel in Staten Island until further notice. This move is an effort to safeguard the rights of individuals and effectively assist and provide information to the Mexican residents of this area."

Yes, the headline says "patrol", but the quote doesn't refer to or suggest that.

I doubt too that US law enforcement would welcome hot pursuit by Mexican authorities into the US anymore than Mexico would welcome hot pursuit by the US.

Not to comment on whether hot pursuit is a good or bad idea, just that I doubt if the issue is as one-sided as you seem to suggest.

[William R. Cumming]

I do think that between the OIL SPILL Catastrophe and the immigration issue--Obama has essentially written off the Gulf States and S.W. States for the indefinite future as far as US elections. Did he have other choices? Perhaps!

[Tyler]

And meanwhile, in Chandler, a massive drug related shooting leaves one officer dead and two wounded. More than likely, the drug cartels were involved with this.

http://www.azcentral.com/community/ahwatukee/articles/2010/07/29/20100729chandler-police-officer-killed-reaction0729.html

However, the liberal street theater in response to SB 1070 gets all the news attention.

Hey, but the Washington Times posted a snarky article about how crime was down on the border, so everything is okay right?

[different clue]

William R. Cummings,

I wonder whether Obama has also decided to write off 5 Great Lakes States as well. The more Great Lakers who begin hearing about the Asian Carp and what it threatens to do to the Lakes; the more people are starting to get genuinely concerned and apprehensive. And when they hear that Obama has backed Chicago against the Great Lakes in terms of forcibly keeping that Chicago Insanitary Carp Infection Canal open, they (we) become less and less happy.

What profiteth it an American Auto Worker to keep his American car company job..if there be no Great Lakes fish left to eat? Hyperbolically speaking...